maybe AMD is saying hey Apple me remember your customers, see we still care for the G5, we are good partners, so maybe you can have a MacPro with Opterons
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ATI Releases X1900 for PCI-e G5s
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yea right...
Considering that the G5 is probably not going to be defunct for some time, I would imagine that Apple and other hardware providers will keep supporting it, considering that many many people presently own one, and many im sure don't care to suddenly abandon their G5's for xeon chips after just a few months or just a year of use out of a computer that can probably stick around for many years without really suffering the pains of obsolesence.
Woooooo!
(Throw that on the Christmas list for the missus..)
Arn, could you update the main page when we hear a price or availability date? Thanks!
(Throw that on the Christmas list for the missus..)
Arn, could you update the main page when we hear a price or availability date? Thanks!
Sure is. I'm not sure if you can buy it in stores, but you can certainly buy one for your Mac Pro (if you didn't order the card with it) from Apple's website.
Too Little Too Late?
I'm driving a $1278 Dell 30" with the 256MB Nvidea GeForce 6600 that came with my Quad G5 just fine. Planning on getting an 8-Core Mac Pro very soon. Maybe I don't need it.
I'm driving a $1278 Dell 30" with the 256MB Nvidea GeForce 6600 that came with my Quad G5 just fine. Planning on getting an 8-Core Mac Pro very soon. Maybe I don't need it.
Fan On This Card Is Noisy Must Be Replaced By Third Party Quiet Fan
Amen brotha. My Quad G5 is so reliable and fast that I plan on keeping it even though I am getting the 8-Core Mac Pro when it's released. It also runs dead silent. This card has a rather noisy fan on it that must be replaced by a $33 Artic Cooling Accelero X2 quieter fan system if you are to live with it in the same room.
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good to see AMD's buyout of ATI didn't affect ATI's policy of raking mac owners over the coals for video cards. a nice $100 premium for a Mac ROM on a standard PC card... how awesome!
People should do themselves a favor and learn about flashing PC video cards in a mac. For the same price as 1 new radeon 9800 mac edition i was able to successfully flash 3 PC 9800XT cards for my G4 macs.
I can't believe there hasnt been more backlash against ATI for the continued insane premiums they charge to mac owners for hardware that is identical to the PC counterparts save for a ROM image.
good to see AMD's buyout of ATI didn't affect ATI's policy of raking mac owners over the coals for video cards. a nice $100 premium for a Mac ROM on a standard PC card... how awesome!
People should do themselves a favor and learn about flashing PC video cards in a mac. For the same price as 1 new radeon 9800 mac edition i was able to successfully flash 3 PC 9800XT cards for my G4 macs.
I can't believe there hasnt been more backlash against ATI for the continued insane premiums they charge to mac owners for hardware that is identical to the PC counterparts save for a ROM image.
It's not really about the hardware, is it? It isn't as if ROM development is free, and it's not as if they can sell millions of these so that they can spread out the development cost of a specialized firmware for a specialized OS on machines that almost nobody has. The number of PowerMacs is so incredibly small that it's not funny to joke about it. People bootlegging cards doesn't help either. I'm surprised ATI even bothered with this at all. May as well tell ATI to not offer upgrade cards.
I didn't know there was such a lack of cards in the g5 mac space. Makes me wonder what else I'm not seeing as I look at picking up a used G4/G5 box. Hmmm.
Not about the hardware, but...
Of course it's not about the hardware. Yet, even if they only sell 1000 of these (I'd guess there are a few hundred thousand candidate Macs out there, and I'd be shocked if <1% were interested in upgrading) at a $100 *premium*, that premium could easily pay the salary of a programmer for a whole year. I know it didn't take a man-year to tweak the ROM and drivers and do a little testing...
If I could buy one for $200, or even $250 (seems to be the price of a PC version) I'd do it without thinking more than twice. At $350, though... Hum. I could take a nice trip to California or Iceland or something for that price.
Of course it's not about the hardware. Yet, even if they only sell 1000 of these (I'd guess there are a few hundred thousand candidate Macs out there, and I'd be shocked if <1% were interested in upgrading) at a $100 *premium*, that premium could easily pay the salary of a programmer for a whole year. I know it didn't take a man-year to tweak the ROM and drivers and do a little testing...
If I could buy one for $200, or even $250 (seems to be the price of a PC version) I'd do it without thinking more than twice. At $350, though... Hum. I could take a nice trip to California or Iceland or something for that price.
Apple is the master of GPU
So far Mac OS X is the OS that mastered the most and get the most out of these GPU graphic cards. It really makes a difference when you use apps like Motion and other video editting apps.
So far Mac OS X is the OS that mastered the most and get the most out of these GPU graphic cards. It really makes a difference when you use apps like Motion and other video editting apps.
Great post, considering that this DX9 card has been available for non-OSX Intel systems for some time....
It's a good card, but "day late, 4$ extra" has been pretty much the norm for Apple graphics cards for years.
What is the logic in accepting that Apple won't run with standard x86 graphics firmware - now that all the Apple boxes are standard x86 systems?
I do not see the logic....
Because Apple uses EFI. Pretty much everyone else is still stuck in the '80s using BIOS stuff.
--Eric
Precisely. Still amazes me why some people still dont get it with all their reading...
MacIntels have BIOS support as well...
Of course, that means that Vista and XP are hopelessly crippled, since they use the BIOS support to boot. </sarcasm>
The EFI motherboards and cards Apple uses have backwards compatibility where they're able to work in BIOS environments. BIOS cards don't have forwards compatibility with EFI.
Its called propreitary, Apple has done it through the years on many things like ADC or those silly video card slots they dreamed up with G5. My guess is it was another way to funnel $$$ to Apple only it didnt work. Video card makers must have told Apple see yah. Im sure if Apple could have its own Videocards, its own display connectors its own OS.... see the pattern. When you own 5% marketshare in computers you cant dictate anything, when you own 50% marketshare like in Pods you can dictate everything.
My guess is AMD had a bunch of leftovers of these chips and told apple hey guess what.
Its called propreitary, Apple has done it through the years on many things like ADC or those silly video card slots they dreamed up with G5. My guess is it was another way to funnel $$$ to Apple only it didnt work. Video card makers must have told Apple see yah. Im sure if Apple could have its own Videocards, its own display connectors its own OS.... see the pattern. When you own 5% marketshare in computers you cant dictate anything, when you own 50% marketshare like in Pods you can dictate everything.
Actually EFI isn't proprietary, its an open standard. Microsoft just doesn't want to advance as far as to use it.
There is EFI support in Vista, although I think it's very basic. However, the upcoming platform specifications from Intel (like Santa Rosa) will require EFI as part of the spec. The forthcoming NAND flash/cache features essentially require EFI as well. The problem with the PC / Windows world is that it's stuck providing backwards compatibility ad infinity. IMO, this is a mistake... Most of the large PC hardware companies need to band together and say "enough is enough" and move on.