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Atomic Web Browser now supports the iPad
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Sorry, I missed the question. This does NOT work. UIWebView reloads web pages when you go back. I try to cache as much as possible to make the pages load quicker. However, the position of the webpage will be lost.
If I know i'm going to go back to a site, I'll open up the link in a new tab.
You need to disable the filter "http://*adition*". I may remove this for the next release as traditional shouldn't be blocked.
AtomicBrowser said:
Thanks.
Another option I'd love to see (I think someone may have brought this up) is to be able to identify browser dependent on website. For example, I love Facebook as firefox 3, but if I try to watch a YouTube link from Facebook, I can't due to YouTube wanting flash installed (instead of html5 under mobile safari).
Hope that makes sense.
I've only been using Atomic Browser for an hour and I've already been telling my friends to get it.
One thing I'd like (there's always 'one' isn't there?
) is a function similar to Desktop Safari's "Open in Tabs". I use this to read my morning funnies
One thing I'd like (there's always 'one' isn't there?
) is a function similar to Desktop Safari's "Open in Tabs". I use this to read my morning funnies 
doug in albq said:You are comparing a $.99 cent app developed by a single individual (as talented as he is) to the almighty Apple, Inc.the second wealthiest corporation in the United States (market cap)....get a clue, and get some perspective!
This browser is great. Apple itself knows this. So what if the UI is not exactly like Safari...You know what else is not like Safari: Tabbed browsing, AdBlock, open link in background, In Page Search, adjust font size, page source viewer, and lots of other "differences".....
I think that getting a clue is a little harsh. What I will say is that there are some fairly obvious aesthetic and UI issues with Atomic at the moment. Certainly they can't all be fixed at once, but the items that the quoted poster brings up are definitely something to address at some point.
I think the browser is great; it's currently living in Safari's dock position on my iPad, in fact, but that doesn't mean that it is beyond suggestion. The developer has been doing an excellent job thus far in addressing the concerns of the users. I expect that there is room for visual as well as feature/performance improvements in the development of the App.
Also, love the new icon! Keep up the good work.
Barham said:
maybe a wee bit harsh.
I will take usability and functionality over aesthetics any day of the week, And I am a visual designer.
And you are right, set by step, first, the icon was changed, and for the most part people agree that the new design is an improvement.
also people tend to forget that this is a Universal app, the same UI has to function on the near 10 inch screen of the iPad, and the 3.5 inch iPhone/iPod Touch. on occasion a solution that works for the small screen does not work as well for the large screen, and vice versa.
also, most of the developer world lives in a MS Windows world, as does most of the world in general, with all it's colorful influences. Even if that same developer is using a Mac also, it might be solely just to write apps for iDevices.
not everyone sees the innate need to make the UI nothing but shades of grey, the Apple way.
(obviously not just grey, but Apple is heavy into the lack of colors if you have not noticed)
Also, the word aesthetic and the idea of "fairly obvious" do not belong together because of the entirely subjective nature of all things "aesthetic"
I personally run with Atomic's black theme, I like it much better than the Safari Grey....
If you'd cared to read my post a bit more carefully before wading in rather rudely, you'd have noticed that my perspective was quite well adjusted. I qualified my criticism by describing it, self-deprecatingly, as shallow after the praising the developer for its functionality.
I've been in design for over 20 years. Rather than patronise the developer with a pat on the head about what a nice picture he'd drawn, I thought I wouldn't bother repeating the well-deserved praise he'd been receiving about the functions of the browser and give him some constructive criticism on what I thought some of the rough visual edges were.
I'm certain his intentions are for people to ultimately replace safari with his browser in their docks and I bet he'd rather get honest criticism which addressed issues and be treated like a professional, instead of people patronisingly making allowances for his amateur status.
He's produced a really nice product but I'm willing to bet he wants it to be the best. More power to him in that respect.
I've been in design for over 20 years. Rather than patronise the developer with a pat on the head about what a nice picture he'd drawn, I thought I wouldn't bother repeating the well-deserved praise he'd been receiving about the functions of the browser and give him some constructive criticism on what I thought some of the rough visual edges were.
I'm certain his intentions are for people to ultimately replace safari with his browser in their docks and I bet he'd rather get honest criticism which addressed issues and be treated like a professional, instead of people patronisingly making allowances for his amateur status.
He's produced a really nice product but I'm willing to bet he wants it to be the best. More power to him in that respect.
that is all great and fine, however your "perspective" was trite, obvious, and already stated earlier in this thread. In addition to that, you knew your remarks needed a qualification. Do not mistake my forwardness with "rudeness," I have yet to be rude. Furthermore, I am not patronizing Richard, the developer; I actually did something for the developer besides of tossing off an obvious written analysis about one's perceived shortcomings of the browser's UI. I designed the apps' new icon. If you read the entire thread, instead of jumping into a long thread mid-way, and without the entire context, you would have know that. As you would have known that your UI "critique" had, in so many words, already been voiced by others far earlier than you voiced your seasoned "20 year" unimaginative, non-creative perspective....
BTW, I always read very carefully.
The qualification I gave my remarks was an acknowledgement that, in terms of priority, aesthetics were quite far down on the list. That doesn't mean they're not valid.
'Get a clue' struck me as a rather rude phrase to use to address someone who was expressing a reasonably well argued, admittedly subjective, opinion.
Perhaps that's how you speak to people generally but I found it unpleasant and needlessly confrontational.
By the way, I had read the thread in its entirety before posting. Like I said, I echoed the praise about the functionality. Theres nothing wrong with adding to the constructive criticism about perceived deficiencies as, presumably, Richard will prioritise fixes dependent on how much feedback he gets on certain issues. If lots of people are clamouring for aesthetic tweaks, he'll do them. If it's just a couple of people, he won't. Simple.
AtomicBrowser said:
Just to add to that last point, Jessica, even safari with all its testing has still recently been found to have exploits in the code which COULD allow a malicious hacker to do x,y,z etc. Atomics point is that given he is one man there is always the chance (and probably higher no offense to rich) that AB could also be compromised in some way. From my perspective, I have a very secure setup at home so i don't really see this as a risk. But you should be aware of all of this in general let alone when using any third party app that is accessing the web through which you enter secure info. But then again you have https which you would hope helps mitigate the security risk but this is beyond my knowledge.
Well of course it's important to be cautious. My main concern was Atomic Browser was like Opera Mini. Read up on Opera to get why I'd be questioning how form data is handled.
After having downloaded the browser while still not knowing whether or not it was similar to Opera in the data respect, I was so impressed with the browser. Mainly the gesture recognition. This is where Apple completely missed the boat or if they did not miss it, it's yet another thing Apple does to ensure they can spoon feed us basic functions one year at a time. Atomic has already replaced Safari in the dock on my iPad. There are some quirks to me that many have already mentioned but overall this is a slick browser. This is what Apple should have given Safari for the iPad.
If it has not been mentioned, I'd like it if when I type an address in the address bar, that the history box doesn't pop up. I know this is how it will work on other browsers, but I don't like it for some reason, same holds true for the search box. The up and down gestures are tough to nail, but I don't think there's a work around to this.
At .99¢ this app is a huge bargain.
jonnyb said:
Jon/doug - guys we get it. You both have qualifications as design experts. You both have good points and neither is wrong, its personal taste. But let's take this offline so as not to hijack atomics main thread. I can tell you both appreciate his work which is nothing short of awesomeness so lets end it at that.
spammerhamster said:
I don't think this is viable feature for Atomic. There is so much design UI that is dependent on where you have the bottom bar it's not manageable to make it an option. For example, if you get rid of bottom bar where do those buttons go? Or if he's building (which he is) a bookmark bar, do you have that also change if bottom bar is "deselected"? I'm not saying its not possible but to design an app that way i think would take so much design time it would be like having to code two app (or three in atomics case because fo iPhone app) that's it beter to choose one style and run with it.
I'd be curious just as an informal pole, knowing that a bookmarks bar is coming (which atomic might make user option able to be on or off) and therefore the spacial impact of having that, would you prefer to continue with the bottom bar or get rid of it and integrate those buttons into the top bar?
We're not talking about removing the bar, (even though removing it is still possible as some prefers gestures)' just an option to have the bar at the bottom. Or at the top. Gui-wise there isn't much difference.
Is anyone else having problems with slow responsiveness of the URL bar?
From "clicking" on it, to pressing the X to delete the previous address, to typing in the new address...it lags quite a bit. Anyone else experiencing this? I could take a quick video to demonstrate.
From "clicking" on it, to pressing the X to delete the previous address, to typing in the new address...it lags quite a bit. Anyone else experiencing this? I could take a quick video to demonstrate.
HXGuy said:
I'm experiencing this as well. Many times it even seems to hang, the whole app I mean. Could it be because of the cache or history becoming too large (and you can't clear them)
I dont think that's it because pressing in the same spot 2-3 times does eventually pull the keyboard.
Also, there is lag when actually pressing the X to clear the address as well as when typing in a URL...the letters actually show up a bit after you have already typed them.
The curious thing is that my iPad 3G came today and it doesn't seem to have the same problem, it works very smoothly. I wonder if it will change as I use it more, if it will get bogged down and exhibit the same lag.
Also, there is lag when actually pressing the X to clear the address as well as when typing in a URL...the letters actually show up a bit after you have already typed them.
The curious thing is that my iPad 3G came today and it doesn't seem to have the same problem, it works very smoothly. I wonder if it will change as I use it more, if it will get bogged down and exhibit the same lag.
The Atomic Web Browser is an excellent piece of software, but I have a few questions.
1) Is there any chance of implementing the adblock feature so it uses the Easylist and Easyprivacy lists used with Adblock Plus in Firefox?
2) Does the adblock feature hide the ads or does it actually stop them from downloading? Stopping them from downloading would save us significant amounts of 3G bandwidth making it more possible to use the 250MB plan on the iPad.
1) Is there any chance of implementing the adblock feature so it uses the Easylist and Easyprivacy lists used with Adblock Plus in Firefox?
2) Does the adblock feature hide the ads or does it actually stop them from downloading? Stopping them from downloading would save us significant amounts of 3G bandwidth making it more possible to use the 250MB plan on the iPad.
Out of curiosity, on estimate, how many items does everyone have in their history? It looks like i'll have to make an option to turn off suggestion for people with a large amount of history. Of course, I'll also look into improving performance.
The Ad Block used in Atomic is different then adblock for Firefox. This is because the iPhone OS doesn't have regex. There are solutions out there but they technically violate the sdk agreement and I don't want to give Apple any reason to reject the app. I have automatically updating Ad Block on my todo list.
Ad Block will block the content when it is requested to be downloaded.
The Ad Block used in Atomic is different then adblock for Firefox. This is because the iPhone OS doesn't have regex. There are solutions out there but they technically violate the sdk agreement and I don't want to give Apple any reason to reject the app. I have automatically updating Ad Block on my todo list.
Ad Block will block the content when it is requested to be downloaded.
Good question. what would you prefer:
1) Removing the bottom bar an relocate the bottoms to the top bar and bookmark bar
2) Add more options to the bottom bar. Keep the top bar and include an optional bookmark bar.