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From what I read from the AT&T press release, you should not have to lose your unlimited data plan even if you upgrade:

"Current customers are not required to switch to the new plans, but can choose to do so without a contract extension. There are no changes to AT&T’s device upgrade policy, which means customers eligible to upgrade to AT&T’s best device price are not required to switch plans. The new plans will also be available for business customers."

Well that's good news...I hope they stick to it. Like I said, I'm prepared if they do decide to nix it. However, I'll wait as long as I can, or until they tell me otherwise :D
 
Something is wrong when a phone bill is comparable to the price of a monthly car payment.

It wasn't that long ago when, if you made any long distance calls, home phone lines cost about that. The same could be said if you had a cell phone years then or if you frequently left your home calling area and roamed.

Nowadays, you can call anywhere in the country while traveling practically anywhere in the country without any extra charges and most people are giving up their home phones and moving to completely cellular.

I'm not saying the phone companies aren't going overboard with their greediness, but there's also something to be said about people's expectations.
 
At least tethering is included at no additional charge with these new plans. Now all the users calling foul wolf on people who tethered for free can finally drop it as they no longer have a point.
 
and so it begins. Att and Vzw in bed with each other, counting their money while their customers take it up the bunghole

This stinks of collusion to be sure. There is no way in hell AT&T came to almost the exact same pricing plan conclusions as Verizon without the two having a conversation first.

This is why Sprint and Tmobile need to grow and be successful, so they can push AT&T and verizon to bring prices down and break up the duopoly cabal.
 
This stinks of collusion to be sure. There is no way in hell AT&T came to almost the exact same pricing plan conclusions as Verizon without the two having a conversation first.

Verizon announced their new plans a few months ago, but it's impossible that AT&T saw them, watched for any possible backlash, and decided that it'd be safe for them to follow suit with something similar.

Sorry, but if I'm a business owner selling a product/ service and my main competitor raises their prices without suffering any major ill effects, I'd be raising mine as well....especially in a market where it's (for the most part) now considered a necessity and neither side could support all of the customers.
 
Verizon announced their new plans a few months ago, but it's impossible that AT&T saw them, watched for any possible backlash, and decided that it'd be safe for them to follow suit with something similar.

Sorry, but if I'm a business owner selling a product/ service and my main competitor raises their prices without suffering any major ill effects, I'd be raising mine as well....especially in a market where it's (for the most part) now considered a necessity and neither side could support all of the customers.

Logic wont convince the black helicopter crowd who see collusion everywhere. They are not happy unless there's a bogeyman to hate. And they get particularly testy if the announcement does not benefit them personally. Even if it benefits others, they don't care. If they do not benefit, then it's a conspiracy and 'proof' of collusion.
 
These are all unlimited calling and texting plans. If you have two smartphones with individual plans with unlimited texting, calling, and 3 GB data, you'd easily be paying $240 per month before tax, so it saves money to do with these new data sharing plans.

If you don't use many minutes, then buy an individual plan and add another line and data plan, it's cheaper.
 
These are all unlimited calling and texting plans. If you have two smartphones with individual plans with unlimited texting, calling, and 3 GB data, you'd easily be paying $240 per month before tax, so it saves money to do with these new data sharing plans.

If you don't use many minutes, then buy an individual plan and add another line and data plan, it's cheaper.

yes and your username shows us how much you're with it... :rolleyes:
nobody uses unlimited minutes and texts anymore. I get free unlimited texting with google voice for instance. It's data that people use and will really be using when iPhone LTE 4G or whatever they call it comes out. Steve Jobs had it right from the beginning... why have a phone capable of doing so much if you have to limit how much you can use it?
 
Something is wrong when a phone bill is comparable to the price of a monthly car payment.

Well something is wrong when pepple's car lease payments are the same as their monthly rent/mortgage amount.

It's just the culture of today's culture.
 
This is a no-brainer for some of us.

On a family plan with 4 iPhones, unlimited texting, 2x 200mb data and 2x 2GB data. Also, an AT&T employee.

This will save quite a bit of money. The employee discount can only be applied to one line, so only one share of data is being saved. However, with the shared plan, the discount is applied to the shared data. This will reduce the bill by a fair bit, and our data usage will be more flexible.

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And incidentally, am I the only person that thinks cell phone plans are very reasonably priced? The fact is, the ability to make mobile calls, unlimited texting, and being able to use the internet on my mobile device is worth $100/month. That's why I pay it.

For people who think it's a rip off, you are more than welcome to go back to just using a landline.

I feel the same way about the price of gas. Yeah, $3-$4 a gallon seems expensive, but at the end of the day, I'd continue to drive my car to and from work even at $5 or $6 a gallon.
 
I have 3 iPhones(2x2GB and 1x300MB) and 1 dumb phone. I have the Family plan with 700 anytime minutes and unlimited nights, mobile, and weekends, and unlimited texting. If I went with the 4GB combined plan, I would be paying around $40 MORE per month after taxes and fees are added in.

The people on my plan never even come close to 700 anytime minutes, especially with the 4765 rollover minutes we have accrued. Why can't AT&T just offer shared data for my existing plan? I wouldn't mind paying $40 for 4GB of shared data on my current plan, but I don't want to pay a premium for unlimited minutes when I don't even use the minutes I have now.
 
I have 3 iPhones(2x2GB and 1x300MB) and 1 dumb phone. I have the Family plan with 700 anytime minutes and unlimited nights, mobile, and weekends, and unlimited texting. If I went with the 4GB combined plan, I would be paying around $40 MORE per month after taxes and fees are added in.

The people on my plan never even come close to 700 anytime minutes, especially with the 4765 rollover minutes we have accrued. Why can't AT&T just offer shared data for my existing plan? I wouldn't mind paying $40 for 4GB of shared data on my current plan, but I don't want to pay a premium for unlimited minutes when I don't even use the minutes I have now.

The carriers know that data is the future. It may just be a matter of time before all calls just use data instead of minutes. The fact is data is valuable, and that's why it seems expensive. Because people are willing to pay for it.
 
The carriers know that data is the future. It may just be a matter of time before all calls just use data instead of minutes. The fact is data is valuable, and that's why it seems expensive. Because people are willing to pay for it.

I totally agree. The thing that gets me is charging $30 to add a dumb phone...that just seems outrageous since it won't use any data. I got it added to my family plan for $10 a month so that my grandmother could have a phone for emergencies, but now I am supposed to believe that it should cost $30 for the exact same thing?
 
I totally agree. The thing that gets me is charging $30 to add a dumb phone...that just seems outrageous since it won't use any data. I got it added to my family plan for $10 a month so that my grandmother could have a phone for emergencies, but now I am supposed to believe that it should cost $30 for the exact same thing?

Yeah I don't disagree with you here. I think it is just a matter of the carriers wanting to evolve their system to get all users on smart phones with tiered data plans. That's the way it will be in 5 years, and anything the carriers can do to speed up the evolution, they are going to do. If that means making a dumbphone cost the same as a smartphone to make even Grandma go for the smartphone, then that's what they're going to do.
 
Yeah I don't disagree with you here. I think it is just a matter of the carriers wanting to evolve their system to get all users on smart phones with tiered data plans. That's the way it will be in 5 years, and anything the carriers can do to speed up the evolution, they are going to do. If that means making a dumbphone cost the same as a smartphone to make even Grandma go for the smartphone, then that's what they're going to do.

I actually thought it might be more cost effective to give my grandmother my old iPhone when I upgrade this year, but I don't think she would be able to figure it out. :) She doesn't use her phone for texting or anything (even though she is part of my unlimited texting plan). I usually get about two or three blank texts a month from her and she doesn't know how they got sent...lol
 
Ha, the name is classic.

Actually a lot of people use lots of minutes, I use over 4000 per month. And many people text a lot, tens of messages per day, so it's nice knowing you'll never run out of minutes or texts. If data is what you want, then stick to an individual plan and put dumb phones on a family plan. At&t isn't getting rid of their existing plans, just adding more options for people who text and talk a lot and don't want to be limited by minutes.

yes and your username shows us how much you're with it... :rolleyes:
nobody uses unlimited minutes and texts anymore. I get free unlimited texting with google voice for instance. It's data that people use and will really be using when iPhone LTE 4G or whatever they call it comes out. Steve Jobs had it right from the beginning... why have a phone capable of doing so much if you have to limit how much you can use it?
 
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