As others have said, if you have grandfathered unlimited data then subsidy is a no-brainer deal. I'm lucky enough to be one of those people and after my discount I pay only about 24 for the data part of my plan on my line
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ATT Next is a huge scam! Is it still possible to get 2 year iPhone 6s+ contract w AT&T?
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Looks at thread title: "ATT Next is a huge scam!" You should get off the unlimited plan and move to a shared data plan, you will save a bunch of money. Unless you are one of those users that doesn't have home internet and violates ATT's TOS and use your phone as a hotspot for your whole block.
Currently have the same plan, however Unlimited data is actually 5GB and throttle after.
If you do the math and use 5GB a month then it is $75 a month.
The next one up is 10GB for $115.
This will shock a lot of people:
1. The people who say that AT&T Next is ALWAYS a better deal, and those who haven't switched are idiots....are wrong.
2. The people who say that AT&T Next is ALWAYS a scam, and those on a 2-yr. contract can never do better....are wrong.
Some people will save, some people won't. It really depends on your plan.
I had someone spend forever trying to convince me that I was an idiot for not switching to AT&T Next, and that I was just being silly to hang onto my unlimited plan.
I pay $109 a month for two phone lines. One with unlimited, one with 2GB. It's more than enough for what we need. We upgrade one of the phones every year on launch day, since the contracts run out on alternate years. We then sell the old one for the cost of the new one, since it's now unlocked.
So, we pay $109 for two lines, and we upgrade one phone for free every year. Nothing that ANY of the carriers offer can get anywhere close to that! T-Mobile comes close, but AT&T's network is much better. As much as I'd love to support the cool stuff T-Mobile is doing, we will hang onto this plan until they pry it from our hands!
1. The people who say that AT&T Next is ALWAYS a better deal, and those who haven't switched are idiots....are wrong.
2. The people who say that AT&T Next is ALWAYS a scam, and those on a 2-yr. contract can never do better....are wrong.
Some people will save, some people won't. It really depends on your plan.
I had someone spend forever trying to convince me that I was an idiot for not switching to AT&T Next, and that I was just being silly to hang onto my unlimited plan.
I pay $109 a month for two phone lines. One with unlimited, one with 2GB. It's more than enough for what we need. We upgrade one of the phones every year on launch day, since the contracts run out on alternate years. We then sell the old one for the cost of the new one, since it's now unlocked.
So, we pay $109 for two lines, and we upgrade one phone for free every year. Nothing that ANY of the carriers offer can get anywhere close to that! T-Mobile comes close, but AT&T's network is much better. As much as I'd love to support the cool stuff T-Mobile is doing, we will hang onto this plan until they pry it from our hands!
My understanding the $25 discount is for all 3 lines I have. If it was one would be then $15.
My entire plan bill is $118 for all 3 lines and AT&T said it would not change under the new 2y agreement.
This is true and if it works for YOU, awesome. The OP's thread title is untrue and misleading though.
I switched to AT&T when the unlimited data plan was already in the past. I went to mobile share and saved a lot of money with our 4 phones. In addition, the data plan has improved - more shared data for same prices.
I'm happy with the plan and glad of the flexibility that NEXT gives me. I hated being tied down two years.
I'm not sure how you can expect the plans to stay the same. When you consider the way data use has changed, as well as the technology to support it, adoption numbers, and the rate of change including devices, carriers had to evolve their plans.
I think AT&T has done a good job of offering us options as the industry evolves and I appreciate their technology. But if you feel you can do better elsewhere, please go!
I'm happy with the plan and glad of the flexibility that NEXT gives me. I hated being tied down two years.
I'm not sure how you can expect the plans to stay the same. When you consider the way data use has changed, as well as the technology to support it, adoption numbers, and the rate of change including devices, carriers had to evolve their plans.
I think AT&T has done a good job of offering us options as the industry evolves and I appreciate their technology. But if you feel you can do better elsewhere, please go!
Are you on a Mobile Share Value plan now? If so, you pay $15 per line with a plan of 10GB or higher. $25 per line if under 10GB. If you choose to upgrade a line and subsidize on a 2 yr contract, you still have your Value plan, but the price for the line you used to upgrade goes back up to $40. You lose your discount. When you are ordering, it will say, by accepting a 2yr contract, you will no longer receive the discount.
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Thanks for knowing the situation for everyone. Using att's own calculator if I dumped my unlimited data I would be paying $40 more a month for the usage I use. Btw, stream music for awhile and see how much data you use. Not everybody lives on a campus or has wifi everywhere they go.
1. If you think about it they're both contracts. Some as bad as 30 months long with next payments. Imagine that. Paying on a phone for 2 and a half years.
2. Both now have upgrade fees. I never paid one for years though with att.
3. Same idea you can sell your device and use the money to get a new phone full price.
2 year contracts are good for me. I been with Att since 1998, I don't switch carriers often and it gives me $450 off my iPhone price for signing a 2 year agreement every 20 months.
No matter how u look at it with family plans, unlimited data and subsidies the older plans are way better value than the new mobile share plans and next financing.
That's false.
Again like many of your false assumptions.
Att hasn't throttied me for months.
They got hit with a lawsuit and can only do it on certain busy towers during peak times.
I been getting 10-12gb with no slow downs at all. Someone like you on mobile share would have paid hundreds $$ in overages.
You are good to go. AT&T still does offer 2 year contract subsidies for now with a NON-waivable one time $45 upgrade fee.
If I had an unlimited data plan and used a lot of data without being throttled after 5GBs, I would keep it as well. The only problem you may face is when ATT does away with the 2 yr contracts, you will have to buy the phone outright to keep it. If that is not a problem, then that's great. Apple has come out with their own upgrade installment plan with AppleCare + included and phone unlocked, so I was wondering if you may be able to go that route to keep your unlimited data plan if you can't PIF upfront
How much you want to bet I will get all 4 of mine waived again like year after year?
And btw new next Upgrade Fee: $15 per line!
Then your discount would be $45 a month (3 x $15) for the three lines. You get the discount on each line depending on whether it is on a subsidized contract or not. Phone on subsidized contract = no discount until the contract expires (2 years). Phone not on subsidized contract (AT&T Next or bought full price or the subsidized contract is ended) = $15 discount for that line if you are on a plan that is less than 10GB shared, or $25 if you are on a 10GB+ shared plan. That is per line, not for the entire account. For instance we have four phones on a 10GB shared plan, so each one gets a $25 discount, for $100/month discount that we wouldn't get if we were subsidized. We have one phone on AT&T Next right now paying $31.25 a month, but there was no $299 up front cost like there would be on a subsidized plan. AT&T Next is just a 0% financing contract with a clause stating you can trade the phone in when six payments remain in order to get a new phone (with new financing contract). You can always pay the remaining balance off early if you want to kick AT&T to the curb.
No one knows how you arrived at this random math first off an iPhone 6 Plus last year was 299.99 on 2 year. Same iPhone on next is 450 at the point of trade in. Simply looking at this sure one would argue that 2 year is better. Account for 45 activation upgrade fee, and then account for 15 dollars or 25 dollars a month discount and 2 year no longer makes sense.
Yeah, I just spoke with AT&T and he said basically the same thing. Now I need to make the math and see if for the 3 iPhones I am planning to get which makes the most sense. I will pay the 30 installments because I want to keep the iphones and sell later to recoup part of the investment.
I was curious about the Apple plan. Since it offers the Applecare that could be enticing.
I didn't go the Apple route because you had to reserve a phone and then go into the store and apply for the upgrade plan with a CC and a credit check and fight the crowds and possibly pay interest after a year. There just wasn't enough info to go on or a guarantee that I wouldn't lose out on getting our 6S Pluses on launch day. It was so much easier to order it online through Apple and stick with NEXT and have them delivered on launch day, all in my PJ's
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The biggest con is their introduction of the mobile shared value plans. Most people don't use much of their voice minutes to start with and same goes for text messages but they force you to get those plans and make you pay for something that you don't care much to begin with and charge you a ton of $ for data.
Further the new msv plans unfortunately don't make much sense with the subsidies.
Even with inflation our phone bills have gone up a lot. Don't even get me started with cable.
Further the new msv plans unfortunately don't make much sense with the subsidies.
Even with inflation our phone bills have gone up a lot. Don't even get me started with cable.
This thread reminds us that there a lot users on both Next and two-year contracts who don't understand the terms of their agreement and are really bad at math.
If you have a mobile share value plan signing a 2 year agreement will 100% change your monthly cost. This is plastered all over the att page when you are doing a preorder and they confirmed with me at least three times during the process to acknowledge id be loosing the monthly out of contract discount
You cannot say "No matter how you look at it with family plans, unlimited data... etc" as truth. This is NOT the fact with a ton of plans. There's a great majority of people on the Family talk plans (esp with 3 or more lines), and those with unlimited data that come out ahead with MSV + next plans. There's a high majority of at&t customers that have switched to these options because of the pricing difference.
Also, if you think you're getting $450 in raw $$$ off your phone without returning it to the carrier through your plan, you're sorely mistaken.
If the MSV/Next aren't good for you, fantastic. But don't pass it off as fact that it's some sort of terrible system that makes 0 financial sense for anybody.
