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ATTENTION! Dust Entering through Silent Switch | DESIGN FLAW | 3D Touch | iPhone 6s
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That was on the 6 Plus too. I've seen 3-4 phones with something similar. Not exactly alike, but very similar.
Hmm. I exchanged my first 6s plus at the genius bar for this very issue and thought it was just a manufacturing defect. Now it looks like the replacement has the same issue, so it very well could be a design flaw.
I think it is a design flaw and it depends on how you carry your phone, e.g. if you put it in a jeans pocket with lint, the dust goes through the switches, gaps, etc...
People like you should be banned from ever exchanging their phone. Just like those fishing for TSMC chip. The OCD is unreal
Why would dust underneath the glass ever be acceptable on a $650+ device? The chip part I agree with but this physically affects the device.
Might have something to do with the fact that you're always pushing on the screen and putting pressure on it. I don't have a 6s so it's just a guess.
I don't know about you, but unless you live in a vacuum I have much more dust particles OVER my iPhone than inside its display .... And Im keeping it clean almost every day.
This is very OCD.
The screen is bonded to the glass, it's physically impossible for dust to get in there after it's manufactured. Anyone seeing new dust particles in there just didn't notice them before.
Exactly! I was reading this thread and thinking this is nonsense......the only chance for dust to get in is during manufacture. All the layers are bonded together and there is no "air" between any of the layers.
This is exactly what I thought as well but I'm 100% it's not the case. I triple checked the phone(s) when I first received got them and there was absolutely no dust anywhere. It's only after a few weeks that it slowly starts to appear, from the top left corner above the signal bars.
I've had ever single iPhone produced and the last time I've seen any similar issue was on the 3GS, before they started to laminate the glass and lcd.
Whatever the cause of issue here is, the process must be different due to the extra layer for 3D touch functionality.
No that's not the case that the 3D Touch changes this. In fact the 3D touch capacitive sensors are BEHIND the screen, not infront of it. The cover glass is bonded to the screen the same as it was before. If you really are seeing more dust appear then there must be a complete failure of the lamination process during manufacture and the image will also look strange or different in the areas where the bond has failed.
That's not the case at all, the image looks fine, minus the dust appearing slowly increasing
My 5S had dusty spots that took up around 20% of the screen. It looked like smudges, but they were behind the screen. I didn't notice them until I scrolled on a PDF document with pure white background.
I took it to Apple Store, and they gave me a new phone after the screen calibration failed
I took it to Apple Store, and they gave me a new phone after the screen calibration failed
Yeah I expect the smudge effect from a complete breakdown of the layers.....at the moment I just can't see how individual dust particles can work there way into anything someone can "see" unless there is some kind of catastrophic failure like you described.
So let's sum up to this point.
1. Some sort of pixel size dots appear on the screen on a few phones after a number of weeks.
2. They are definitely not dust, so we can stop calling it that. The screen and glass cover are sealed.
3. Apple has replaced at least one phone with this complaint, as it failed screen test.
4. Hardly a catastrophic failure, the phone continues to work, and the defect needs to be looked for.
Until further evidence is gathered it looks like a small number of phone exhibit a lamination defect between the screen and cover glass some weeks or months after manufacture. It does not appear customer induced. And we have anecdotal evidence that Apple is living up to their manufacturers warranty and replacing affected phones.
1. Some sort of pixel size dots appear on the screen on a few phones after a number of weeks.
2. They are definitely not dust, so we can stop calling it that. The screen and glass cover are sealed.
3. Apple has replaced at least one phone with this complaint, as it failed screen test.
4. Hardly a catastrophic failure, the phone continues to work, and the defect needs to be looked for.
Until further evidence is gathered it looks like a small number of phone exhibit a lamination defect between the screen and cover glass some weeks or months after manufacture. It does not appear customer induced. And we have anecdotal evidence that Apple is living up to their manufacturers warranty and replacing affected phones.
I think it can also be possible that this dust is behind the lcd on the backlight layer and shines through? Regardless, I'm confident this is design flaw as I've seen multiple 6S with this issue and other reports.
Here is another picture of the issue, it's difficult to photograph but easily visible when looking at the phone.
Here is another picture of the issue, it's difficult to photograph but easily visible when looking at the phone.
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That's not dust man. It's just bad backlight uniformity. Very common with the 6/6S screens.
It's definitely not the backlight uniformity, it's dust either on the lcd or on the backlight below it. The affected area slowly increases as more dust gets in.
There are more than 2 layers... the backlight and LCD are separate layers with a gap between them, not bonded together. That's where the particles get in and are seen.
The fact is that there backlight is not bonded to the LCD because the fact is also that the display has layers of its own. Just because the LCD is bonded to the glass doesn't mean the whole display is sealed from debris.
I would question the ability of someone to see dust particles between the LCD and in front of the backlight... It seems that you'd have to be talking about sugar crystal sized chunks, not dust. And how chunks that size can get into the phone that seemingly has better water-proofing than previous generations, I have no idea.
But I'm not an LCD display engineer... And again, I'm not saying that people aren't seeing poor quality displays. I think it's more likely that some pixels themselves are causing the issue (being grey instead of white, or something). But I can't see any on my phone, so I'm not going to fret about it too much.
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While I had "dusty spot" issue with my 5S, I doubt it's actually dust particles getting sucked into the phone. It's quite likely burn-in. However, like someone has commented, if the dust particles can be seen with the display turned off, then I guess they really are dust particles