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ATTENTION!!! "Reception issue" iPhone 4 owners!
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It dosent do anything to mine it just stays the sane but I've got bad reception anyway but hand or no hand on the left hand corner I still get two bars where I live in the country.
It seems like it is based on where you are as with mine. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it does not. I notice that reading all the threads on here they happen to all of them or none of them if they are together.
it's an iOS4 issue. My old 3Gs is doing it too ever since Monday. I noticed it on Monday but didn't think anything of it until all this came about. Talked with Apple and they said it is definitely an iOS4 issue and they will not be replacing phones and are working on a fix as we speak.
I know for a fact that there are working phones! I´ve seen videos here and many have reported that they don´t have this problem.
For god´s sake at least send email that you don´t have a working phone and what are they gonna do about it. Have some backbone people! Don´t swallow this BS from Apple!
You really don't know it for a fact. There are too many variables to be 100% certain at the moment. Maybe the people with non-glitchy iPhone 4s are in an area with excellent reception. Maybe the individuals have different conductive properties in their skin compared to most other people and they won't cause the reception to drop off on any iPhone 4 they try. What is needed is to have the same person do the same test to multiple phones at the same location across several trials. For good measure, repeat it with a different person but with the same location and phones.
And how is it that Apple didn't know about this issue prior to releasing the iPhone 4? Didn't Apple test the iPhone 4?
Considering how Apple pops off all the time about how much research they do in development of a product, one would have to determine that Apple knew about this issue but released the phone anyway.
Considering how Apple pops off all the time about how much research they do in development of a product, one would have to determine that Apple knew about this issue but released the phone anyway.
Is it that hard to understand my explanation of why those videos and reports don't mean anything?
Show me two iPhone 4s sitting next to each other where one has the problem and the other doesn't, and I'll go to the Apple Store right now.
I was unable to reproduce this issue until about two hours ago. Now I am able to do it, I don't know if it has to due with humidity in the air, or I switched cell towers, or what. In any case, the one thing I can't do, is get it to drop a call.
If I hold my hand/finger/whatever on the left hand side where the two antenas meet, the signal indicator drops. I actually have to be touching much farther down than where the gap is, I have to go down to atleast where the phone starts to curve. Anyway, it goes down to 1 bar, but my call stays strong, no sign of degredation in the call, and it doesn't drop.
I know I saw a video of calls dropping earlier, but are the vast majority of people able to reproduce that, or are we all just sitting in our living rooms watching our bars go down and freaking out?
In either case, it's bad, and if it can't be fixed with firmware, or a simple fix, than that sucks. However, for *my* usage, I don't see it being a big issue, since all permutations of me holding the phone that I go through in normal use, don't seem to cause this issue.
If I hold my hand/finger/whatever on the left hand side where the two antenas meet, the signal indicator drops. I actually have to be touching much farther down than where the gap is, I have to go down to atleast where the phone starts to curve. Anyway, it goes down to 1 bar, but my call stays strong, no sign of degredation in the call, and it doesn't drop.
I know I saw a video of calls dropping earlier, but are the vast majority of people able to reproduce that, or are we all just sitting in our living rooms watching our bars go down and freaking out?
In either case, it's bad, and if it can't be fixed with firmware, or a simple fix, than that sucks. However, for *my* usage, I don't see it being a big issue, since all permutations of me holding the phone that I go through in normal use, don't seem to cause this issue.
Until you see two iPhone 4s next to each other with one doing it and the other not, shut up please.
My iPhone 4 does differ when I hold the bottom left but only to one bar. It did go to searching once. However even at one bar the 3G stays strong and texts are still being sent without problem. I think it's more likely software problems. Remember ios4 is very different and very new. 4.1 will be out soon! Or apple will conferm it's a defect and replace anyway. The phone works just fine atm, ignore it for now.
I believe it's something to do with the carriers.
Apple put too much into this phone to NOT know about such a problem.
Apple put too much into this phone to NOT know about such a problem.
You need to calm down. Every phone will have this issue. This is a design flaw, it's not a glitch or a manufacturers defect. This was probably overlooked when field tested. I have been using my phone all day and I have yet to have a dropped call and 1. no I haven't been holding it weirdly or with my right hand, I've held it normally just like any other mobile user, and 2. I have been able to reproduce the dropping signals in my phone also.
Even if it does this, it doesn't really affect you that much, it just pisses people off that a product which is supposed to be this good is doing this. That's it. I'll be interested in seeing how Apple solves this. I'm sure there can be some kind of software tweak.
If you go out and replace your phone you are only wasting your time, and taking away phones from people who are looking forward to them.
I'm hearing a bit more information that says, yes, it is a hardware problem caused by a manufacturing snafu on a batch (and that batch would be shipped all over).
The antennas are supposed to be coated so they are electrically isolated from anything touching them. The snafu would be a batch that didn't get the coating being shipped out the door.
If while you are holding the phone in your left hand and the signal drops, the phone will transmit more radiation to keep the signal. This means more radiation transmitting near your brain, if you hold the phone to your skull. Just something to think about.
More like something you need to read up about. RF radiation speeds up molecules and burns you at high levels. It doesn't damage your DNA, amongst other things that gamma radiation does. Your iPhone does not emit gamma. Stop fear mongering, it's unnecessary.
Now THAT actually makes some sense! It's easier to believe that something got missed during mass production than Apple not testing for this situation, especially since they specifically designed the antenna this way. Furthermore, there are reports that nail polish or tape covering the suspected areas solves the problem. So it's easy to believe that there indeed was supposed to be some kind of coating on the frame, or something like that.
Either way, Apple will have to address the problem for those of us who are early adopters. We might not get replacements for a bit, but that's ok by me because I'm using a case now anyway.
I agree. It's launch day, you guys need to settle down, I'm sure the tech blogs will take a crack at the topic.
Nah, I won't settle down. It's entertaining, plus I like my phone to make calls when I hold it.
Interesting that many states now have cell phone radiation laws and are requiring manufactures to list the amount of radiation the phone transmits.
If you think about it a cell phone transmits higher levels of radiation than say a walkie talkie. Which at the toy level is not harmful, but the military grade could be.
And I would no more place my face on the door of my microwave oven while it is cooking, than I would keep my cell phone plastered to my skull all the time.
They used to say getting x-rays or CT scans weren't harmful.
I'm just saying.
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I'm using AT&T's 3G network, and so far I have not had any reception issues at all. The signal reads full bars no matter which way I hold the phone.
I'm using AT&T's 3G network, and so far I have not had any reception issues at all. The signal reads full bars no matter which way I hold the phone.