Noise cancellation requires two microphones. Unless if your headset has built in noise cancellation, Siri will not work well in noise environments using that. When you use Siri by holding it up to your ear then you are using the two mics and getting the benefit from that embedded chip resulting in greater accuracy.
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Audience's 'earSmart' Technology Explains Siri's iPhone 4S Exclusivity
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I asked Siri to make an appointment on my calendar and she said "Do it yourself, coffin stuffer."
@ Clive - You leave because you get downvoted? Quite mature. Maybe you should worry about the people who DO post rather than the small (apparently negative) number at the bottom right of your posts?
Why can't it be interpreted from this article that just be cause hardware exists to support the black and white function of the software that Apple simply feels that the hardware does not support their level of quality expected of the software? Are the people who are complaining about this the same ones who are complaining about not having iOS5 on their iPhone3G models? 
Also, all these people arguing why Siri isn't on the iPad... why has nobody brought up the obvious (or maybe not so obvious) fact that Siri requires Apple's servers to function. If it requires servers to work, it has to be connected to the internet for use. The iPad comes in a wifi-only variety, which is not always expected to have an internet connection. If there is no internet connection on the device, then Siri won't work... yeah, we could say "there's a 3g version of the iPad, too"... well then you get into segmenting your own hardware, and this would automatically place a class line between the iPad WiFi and the iPad WiFi+3g which makes no sense...
Also, all these people arguing why Siri isn't on the iPad... why has nobody brought up the obvious (or maybe not so obvious) fact that Siri requires Apple's servers to function. If it requires servers to work, it has to be connected to the internet for use. The iPad comes in a wifi-only variety, which is not always expected to have an internet connection. If there is no internet connection on the device, then Siri won't work... yeah, we could say "there's a 3g version of the iPad, too"... well then you get into segmenting your own hardware, and this would automatically place a class line between the iPad WiFi and the iPad WiFi+3g which makes no sense...
One of my project managers has sort of a lisp, and it never works for him, lol!
Are you trying to say that since it's 'just software' it should be free to you, without consideration of the cost to develop it?
Why can't it be interpreted from this article that just be cause hardware exists to support the black and white function of the software that Apple simply feels that the hardware does not support their level of quality expected of the software? Are the people who are complaining about this the same ones who are complaining about not having iOS5 on their iPhone3G models?
Also, all these people arguing why Siri isn't on the iPad... why has nobody brought up the obvious (or maybe not so obvious) fact that Siri requires Apple's servers to function. If it requires servers to work, it has to be connected to the internet for use. The iPad comes in a wifi-only variety, which is not always expected to have an internet connection. If there is no internet connection on the device, then Siri won't work... yeah, we could say "there's a 3g version of the iPad, too"... well then you get into segmenting your own hardware, and this would automatically place a class line between the iPad WiFi and the iPad WiFi+3g which makes no sense...
I agree with the first part, the second part though I think it wouldn't hurt to have Apple allow Siri even on the Wifi version. I do see both sides though. By putting it on the iPad 2, they'd be hard pressed to advertise it as a big selling point like the iPhone because of the lack of almost perpetual connectivity, but at the same time I don't think it'd be a bad thing for Apple to include the functionality for whenever people *are* on Wifi. I figure the next iPad will have Siri, even the Wifi only models. I don't know, it could go either way I guess
I think Apple’s strategy with Siri runs a great deal deeper than the sole reason you believe. They want it in people’s hands and in their minds; they want it to succeed; and they want it to work really well, which deep voice control had never done before Siri. If they were going to pick a feature to “force” (?) upgrades with, it wouldn’t be Siri. They’d be messing with a primary strategic technology, in its vulnerable early stages, just for the sake of a temporary, tangential sales-boost factor, and one which cuts both ways as we can see! Makes no sense. (Maybe they’d “force” a hardware upgrade with features like, say, an even-better camera, faster processor, and 4G-class performance without 4G battery drain and bulk!)
And Apple is FAR better at keeping older phones updated with new features than other smartphone makers are. FAR better.
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Because people use their phones hands-free a lot more while driving or exercising, which is where Siri is of real benefit-- when you can't see the screen and touch it.
Are you trying to call people using your iPad while driving or jogging around the neighborhood?
The iPad also doesn't have a second microphone for noise cancelation.
Wow, that was really tough.
Thank goodness we have your in-depth dissertation as well as a mountain of forum troll speculation to guide us from the false words of those pesky trained engineers who actually do this for a living.
Yeah, clearly Apple is making all the wrong choices for their products. If only they had consulted with Rodimus Prime or Clive At Five beforehand.
I think I can sum it up. As with most companies who acquire another, they typically shut down old services and roll them into the purchasing company. Second, Apple can do what they want with their software. Not sure why everyone is looking for an explanation of why Siri is on 4s only. That is the way Apple is doing it...period.
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Ah,
This strategy of buying technology, "innovating" it (aka rebranding) and summarily closing and crippling of the technology to only operate inside their tight parameters is typically Apple. A great business decision, but not so great for the end-user.
We all know, except die-hard technology illiterate fanboys, that siri would have worked without any issues had apple committed themselves to the task.
Of course, it is ultimately up to YOU the end user to decide if Siri is a compelling enough reason to upgrade, or to simply wait out your contract and receive the 4S in your next upgrade cycle.
Sadly the latter seems to be true. Of 50+ people I know who have a device older than the 4S, Siri is not a compelling enough reason to upgrade out of pocket.
This strategy of buying technology, "innovating" it (aka rebranding) and summarily closing and crippling of the technology to only operate inside their tight parameters is typically Apple. A great business decision, but not so great for the end-user.
We all know, except die-hard technology illiterate fanboys, that siri would have worked without any issues had apple committed themselves to the task.
Of course, it is ultimately up to YOU the end user to decide if Siri is a compelling enough reason to upgrade, or to simply wait out your contract and receive the 4S in your next upgrade cycle.
Sadly the latter seems to be true. Of 50+ people I know who have a device older than the 4S, Siri is not a compelling enough reason to upgrade out of pocket.
I also never thought Siri as an iPad feature, it might not be on iPad 3 either. It's really for phones, you don't see people talking to their iPad, it would look quite weird. Despite the lack of A5, Siri working on iPhone 4 would be more plausible than it working on iPad 2.
to be honest i have yet to see someone use Siri out in public. I havent used mine on the streets either, i dont want to look like a tool.
Try reading a complete sentence. I leave because people don't discuss why they disagree. I'm convinced that if they actually tried to defend their narrow-minded views, they'd realize they were full of it.
Not at all! ... but I don't see anywhere I can BUY Siri for the iPhone 4, even though it's technically capable, do you? I would, as would many others, but that doesn't make Apple as much money as buying a new phone would. Apple is happiest if people's options are 1) Buy a new phone or 2) Ess-Tee-Eff-You.
I upvoted this despite your blatant sarcasm for obvious reasons.
Yeah but at least even if you used Siri in public on your phone, nobody would know if you are talking to a person or Siri unless they eavesdrop.
Yup it is a coverup. You caught us. Even more amazing is how well the 4S noise cancellation worked on the grassy knoll - You can clearly hear the second gunman!
That's funny, I'm pretty sure the title of this article wasn't "iPad 2 doesn't have Siri because it lacks 2nd microphone." But if it was, that STILL doesn't explain why the iPhone 4 lacks it.
Ok, let's assume Apple is being greedy in all things.
Well, Apple would probably make more sales and more money by being able to advertise that the iPad 2 and iPhone 4 have Siri right now.
Thus, the "Apple is Greedy" outlook should lead us to believe that Apple wants Siri on these devices. Given that, a technical problem makes the most sense.
Your worldview and your conclusion don't match.
Hmm, doubt that.
Maybe putting Siri on iPhone 4 wouldn't be beneficial for Apple from a financial pov. There might be more people upgrading to 4S because of Siri than there are people who'd choose 4 over 3GS for Siri. Need to know lots of factors for that.
But putting it on iPad 2 certainly can't hurt Apple in any way. So that means the reason they are not putting it on iPad 2 can't be financial at all. To me that always felt like a design decision, voice control on a tablet seemed unnecessary probably.
And not to mention, Siri is beta right now, and in my experience works at most half the time. So it has a long way to go. Maybe they'll deploy it on more devices once it matures.
