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Audited by ATT via text because of illegal data plan on iphone 3g
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ok what if i didnt sign a contract on an iphone 3g?
here is what i postd on another thread.....
Let me ask you guys a question....
i received an iPhone 3G without ever signing a 2 year contract for the 3G.
i got it from a friend who bought it but decided to jump ship on his contract... he liked the phone but hated the service.
so he asked me if i would unlock his phone to use on T-Mobile but you cant unlock a 3G phone so i unlocked my old iPhone and he gave me the 3G... i just switched my sim over to the 3G and restored it and added all my info and it works fine.
what do you think the situation is on something like that?
there was no scam here or anything just got the phone without a contract.
What confuses me about the audit is I currently have 3 iphone 3g's on the accounts.
My brother and I both have the medianet unlimited $15 data plan.
My wife has the $20 old iphone data plan that includes the 200 SMS.
My wife uses the iphone 3g 100% of the time and gets the audit from ATT about the illegal data plan.
My brother and I constantly switch phones almost every other day it seems. Both of us use the iphone 3g maybe 2 or 3 days at the most each week. We both have not been audited by ATT even after people the ATT SIM into our iphone 3g for 40 hours so far.
So is ATT audited the people on the $20 iphone data plan? Or are they randomly audited people on various $15 medianet and $30 PDA or $30 blackberry data plans also?
My brother and I both have the medianet unlimited $15 data plan.
My wife has the $20 old iphone data plan that includes the 200 SMS.
My wife uses the iphone 3g 100% of the time and gets the audit from ATT about the illegal data plan.
My brother and I constantly switch phones almost every other day it seems. Both of us use the iphone 3g maybe 2 or 3 days at the most each week. We both have not been audited by ATT even after people the ATT SIM into our iphone 3g for 40 hours so far.
So is ATT audited the people on the $20 iphone data plan? Or are they randomly audited people on various $15 medianet and $30 PDA or $30 blackberry data plans also?
I think, that by switching phones, you acknowledged that you were subject to the terms and conditions of using an iPhone 3G on AT&Ts network. While your situation isn't black and white, I certainly don't think you have any grounds to dispute paying the $30 data plan price. IMHO.
I think, that by switching phones, you acknowledged that you were subject to the terms and conditions of using an iPhone 3G on AT&Ts network. While your situation isn't black and white, I certainly don't think you have any grounds to dispute paying the $30 data plan price. IMHO.
The Way i see it is that it is the responsibility of the provider to not provide 3G speeds to me and cap me at EDGE.
i dont want to pay 3G prices i can do with EDGE (i am around WiFi alot)
they whole bit you said about i am subject to the terms and conditions of using an iphone 3G ... how is that possible if i never signed off on anything and i know of the terms because i frequent sites but what if i just did it without knowing.....
anyway think of it as if i plugged into the internet and got faster speeds than im paying for and i signed a contract or agreed to the lower speed... whos fault is that?
or if my cable just started receiving channels for free?
id be perfectly happy with what i pay and agreed to but not to switching plans ...
so to finish up i believe it is the providers resposibility to fix not mine.
Ignorance doesn't exclude you from a contract.The Way i see it is that it is the responsibility of the provider to not provide 3G speeds to me and cap me at EDGE.
i dont want to pay 3G prices i can do with EDGE (i am around WiFi alot)
they whole bit you said about i am subject to the terms and conditions of using an iphone 3G ... how is that possible if i never signed off on anything and i know of the terms because i frequent sites but what if i just did it without knowing.....
anyway think of it as if i plugged into the internet and got faster speeds than im paying for and i signed a contract or agreed to the lower speed... whos fault is that?
or if my cable just started receiving channels for free?
id be perfectly happy with what i pay and agreed to but not to switching plans ...
so to finish up i believe it is the providers resposibility to fix not mine.
You can log into your ATT account online and remove the DATA plan.
If ATT switches my DATA plan I'll remove it altogether.
The Way i see it is that it is the responsibility of the provider to not provide 3G speeds to me and cap me at EDGE.
i dont want to pay 3G prices i can do with EDGE (i am around WiFi alot)
they whole bit you said about i am subject to the terms and conditions of using an iphone 3G ... how is that possible if i never signed off on anything and i know of the terms because i frequent sites but what if i just did it without knowing.....
anyway think of it as if i plugged into the internet and got faster speeds than im paying for and i signed a contract or agreed to the lower speed... whos fault is that?
or if my cable just started receiving channels for free?
id be perfectly happy with what i pay and agreed to but not to switching plans ...
so to finish up i believe it is the providers resposibility to fix not mine.
Your point would be relevant if the $30 data plan was for 3G access. The fact that the iPhone 3G is capable of using 3G is incidental. You are paying to use a smartphone on the AT&T network. When you took your sim out of a non-smartphone (you iPhone first generation) and put it into a smartphone (the one dubbed iPhone 3G) I bet (although I don't know for 100% sure) that you violated your TOS with AT&T.
I have to agree with this. Even if we don't like it, or if it's something another company doesn't do, or whatever the reason we have for not wanting to pay it...it is their right to put the restrictions they want on their product, whether it's AT&T, Apple, Microsoft, RIMM, Nokia, or whoever. Sprint is (or was) only selling their ****** iPhone rip-off phone only with a $99 unlimited everything plan. That's their choice. I hate to say it, but if I can handle not buying something because I can't agree to the terms of use as a High Schooler, then I'm sure you adults can as well.
unless it states something on my original iPhone plan contract i dont see how that applies if i never signed a contract to aquire my iPhone 3G unlike others who are talking about switching the sim from their iPhone 3G to their old iPhone and re activating...
i just took the sim from my original iphone and original plan from July of 2007 and i am still on that same plan... just swapped the sim to the iPhone 3G.
Well, Here's my thought. As long as you pay the early termination fees on the phone, then you should be able to do what you want with it.
AT&T fell into this trap with the first iphone, because everyone had already paid full price for it. There was little At&t could say or do to keep you. Thats why they finally allowed original iphone users to drop their data plan if they wanted.
So, as long as you pony up the early termination fees, At&t should let you do what you'd like with your phone.
I don't know if they currently allow this, but if they don't, I would have a problem with this. Till then, you owe them 2 years of service as it is designated on your contract (voice + $30 data plan)
AT&T fell into this trap with the first iphone, because everyone had already paid full price for it. There was little At&t could say or do to keep you. Thats why they finally allowed original iphone users to drop their data plan if they wanted.
So, as long as you pony up the early termination fees, At&t should let you do what you'd like with your phone.
I don't know if they currently allow this, but if they don't, I would have a problem with this. Till then, you owe them 2 years of service as it is designated on your contract (voice + $30 data plan)
Great, congratulation. I have bigger fish to fry than trying to save $10 on a contract I agreed to.
The amount of cash I have taken off of AT&T is insane. They have me on a 25% off a month plan because they think I work with a company that I don't. I am on a text messaging plan no one is supposed to have. Finally, my data plan is half.
I lose out on visual voice mail, save a bunch of cash, win. The hell with big companies including Apple, I have no morals and loads of cash for not having them.
To all those who like to hate, have fun paying full price.
I lose out on visual voice mail, save a bunch of cash, win. The hell with big companies including Apple, I have no morals and loads of cash for not having them.
To all those who like to hate, have fun paying full price.
Well, you can remove the data plan. I bought an iPhone 3G, and called AT&T a few days later with questions about removing the data plan. The rep. told me that it was possible, then later, another rep. told me that whoever had told me that was mistaken and that it was not possible. A day or two later I called back, asked to remove the data plan, and it was removed hassle-free, no-questions-asked.
Once I started using my old sim card in my iPhone, all of the options in my online account settings changed to iPhone options, including the data plan. An active data plan was not added to my account, but the only option for a data plan was changed to the $30 and $45 iPhone plans.
I should just put this in my damn signature. No one is refuting you can remove the data plan by calling AT&T. The problem is keeping the data plan off.
He did keep it off. he said the data plan wasn't added to his account when he checked online.
It's pointless to argue, AT&T will track you down. Read the initial OP's comment, this thread is once again going nowhere.
I know it's easy to be unnecessarily aggressive on the internet, but since this thread seems to bother you so much, why do you keep responding?
This is correct.
You are NOT paying for 3G access. Your are paying for data access. At&t subsidized the price of the 1st Gen iPhone data to guarantee sales because the phone at the time, was new.
Now that they know they have the consumer by the balls with the iPhone, they lowered the price of the phone to entice the masses and raised the data fee. It has NOTHING to do with 3G connection.
My OLD Razr was 3G and I paid nothing. 3G data or not, you are paying a raised price for data and that's it. Get a 1st gen if you have a problem paying $15 more or chance it, either way who really cares what everyone else is doing.
The amount of cash I have taken off of AT&T is insane. They have me on a 25% off a month plan because they think I work with a company that I don't. I am on a text messaging plan no one is supposed to have. Finally, my data plan is half.
I lose out on visual voice mail, save a bunch of cash, win. The hell with big companies including Apple, I have no morals and loads of cash for not having them.
To all those who like to hate, have fun paying full price.
Thief. Its people like you who jack up the rates for the rest of us.
Oh puh-lease, PcBgone! What a load of pap. Have a guess how much it actually costs AT&T to deliver the service to you. Have a guess how many billions of dollars AT&T are making on selling ridiculously priced iPhone contracts to US consumers.
Even after the millions they have had to invest in new technologies, they are still making billions. iPhone is quite possibly one of the best things to happen to AT&T in recent years, much like it is for my own network, O2.
I don't blame people trying to get their iPhone bills down to the bare minimum. I think the UK tariffs are high, but the US tariffs are just something else. And you lose your own inclusive minutes when somebody has the audacity to call you! You are being screwed royally!
I signed up to a higher price contract in order to get a larger subsidy on my iPhone 3G. After nine months, I can reduce the tariff I'm on. Guess what I'll be doing after nine months?! Despite the fact that I'll be £10 better off by doing it this way, and have had the use of double the minutes and texts for the first nine months, O2 have and will continue to make thousands of pounds out of me!
How does the issue between ATT and the people using the 2G plan with the iPhone 3G involve you??
If you're involved (e.g. working for ATT, or know the person using the 2G plan, etc) then state that explicitly.