AidenShaw
macrumors P6
But when the main event of the show is that "we've painted it black instead of white" what can you expect but "real dry".
This is a pathetic update....
August 7th Updates: iMacs, iLife '08, iWork '08, Mac Mini and More...
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But when the main event of the show is that "we've painted it black instead of white" what can you expect but "real dry".
This is a pathetic update....
bdkennedy1
Suspended
I ran down and bought the new 24" iMac. There was a line so I'm glad I went when I did. It's my 5th one and it is the most beautiful piece of hardware I've ever seen. My mom can't tell the difference between any computer and she gasped when she saw the new one. The keyboard is going to take some getting used to. The piano black around the edges of the screen really makes the desktop pop.
I think it's any snippet of code and that iWeb just let Safari/webkit render whatever it is and let you resize whatever result it got, so I guess a paypal button would work.
Apple Corps
macrumors 68030
My belief is that the response was flat because the hardware content was kind of blah. Steve commented several times on the use of aluminum and glass - that is hardly going to generate any excitement. His review of the iMac was very old news: All in One, ports on the back - not anything to cheer about. One wonders if an event was really a good idea. I've already purchased iWork and iLife - very nice but overdue.
All in all - this event was destined to be flat given what was announced.
All in all - this event was destined to be flat given what was announced.
MonkeyClaw
macrumors regular
The reason Steve seemed depressed was because the crowd was completely dead. Do those morons need a neon "Applause" sign? There was zero reaction when the new iMac was unveiled. Really lame, if I were invited out I'd bring banners and air horns to liven things up. Ingrates
I picked up on that real early, he even sort of mentioned it at one point during the new iMovie demo (which looks awesome!). Really a shame cause the new iMac and software to go with it are really really great products.
Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
After looking at the site some more i am finding myself very upset with the way Apple is doing business. I know that the corporate world is all based on the bottom line but i am not too happy with the way Apple is cutting their costs by not offering a real keyboard with the new iMac. They save $X for using MacBook keyboards, and $X for using only the 20" panel, and $X for using laptop parts for the iMac. I wonder when Apple will make some real changes in their lineup and give their customers something really good to sink their teeth into. The MacPro got nothing, the Mac Mini got an update that it should have had almost half a year ago and the price remains the same, and where in the WORLD IS MY IPOD?
I am glad that the iMac is cheaper, and that the specs are more of what people have been asking for, but what about the things that make Apple that innovative company it used to be? is innovation too expensive for Apple and they are now just following the regular PC (Dell, HP) business model of small design changes and obvious progressions of their tech specs? How typical, where is my revolutionary computer company...?
I am glad that the iMac is cheaper, and that the specs are more of what people have been asking for, but what about the things that make Apple that innovative company it used to be? is innovation too expensive for Apple and they are now just following the regular PC (Dell, HP) business model of small design changes and obvious progressions of their tech specs? How typical, where is my revolutionary computer company...?
Hope for what? What was it that you wanted in this update?
100$ bucks says you are let down by the next Mac Pro update....
hatcher146
macrumors 6502
i thought it was a pretty good update today....on the other hand...
come on iPods!!! i cant wait until september.
come on iPods!!! i cant wait until september.
gonnabuyamac
macrumors 6502
What a fantastic update. They are almost giving away iMacs now.
The question is whether or not iWork/iLife is worth purchasing. Will it just be renewed in January or will it be a year away?
No... this is iWork/iLife 08 - meaning that it will be for a year, or possibly two. I ordered mine today and am really looking forward to an updated Pages. I used Pages for a while, but prefer more of a word processing view so I switched to Office 04. After seeing the demo today I have every intention of switching back to iWork.
GFLPraxis
macrumors 604
$300 price drop, better processors, bigger hard drives, bigger screens, arguably better graphics cards, new design with glass screens that can be easily cleaned, and new software bundled.
Anyone who doesn't call that a significant update is on crack.
Anyway, I just looked up some benchmarks and the Radeon HD 2600 Pro seems like it should outperform the mobile 7600...the Radeon HD 2400XT seems pretty close to the Geforce 8500GT in performance, and the 8500GT is supposed to beat the 7600. I'd assume a 2600Pro would beat or at least match a 7600GT.
I mean, it's not a very big leap, but it's not a step backwards. And all the other specs went up while the price dropped.
age234
macrumors 6502
Maybe, but I think Steve is the type that draws a lot of energy from the audience. When they're all sitting there like bumps on a log, he seems to drag a bit.
But I think the keynote was good. Better than the iPod Hifi one, Steve sounded almost dead at that one.
Love the new iMac.
with all due respect but...
It does not seem like you know what you are talking about.
The beautiful design is the reason they use laptop parts, so it can be the size it is. And by the way, even if laptop sales are stronger than ever, those components are still pricier than desktop ones.
Now the last part of your comment is even worst than the rest. Just look at the computers and compare them. All this 'Apple sucks', 'Apple sells overpriced hardware', etc. comments are so out of line. Look at any other computer, from any manufacturer that has a 'nice' design and similar parts, and they are even pricier than Macs. If you get Dell cheapo boxes that fit almost any configuration, etc. you cannot remotely expect Apple to bring the products they bring to market, charging what Dell and others charge for these brand-name clones.
BTW, I am not saying Macs are cheap. I know Apple makes money. That is why they are a business. But I think they are worth the price given the attention to detail Apple has in their products, software and hardware. And before you tell me about the 'flops', i know about them and still seems to me that Apple, in terms of bringing great products to market, has an impressive track record, despite the times they have overlooked at something (They are humans after all).
It does not seem like you know what you are talking about.
The beautiful design is the reason they use laptop parts, so it can be the size it is. And by the way, even if laptop sales are stronger than ever, those components are still pricier than desktop ones.
Now the last part of your comment is even worst than the rest. Just look at the computers and compare them. All this 'Apple sucks', 'Apple sells overpriced hardware', etc. comments are so out of line. Look at any other computer, from any manufacturer that has a 'nice' design and similar parts, and they are even pricier than Macs. If you get Dell cheapo boxes that fit almost any configuration, etc. you cannot remotely expect Apple to bring the products they bring to market, charging what Dell and others charge for these brand-name clones.
BTW, I am not saying Macs are cheap. I know Apple makes money. That is why they are a business. But I think they are worth the price given the attention to detail Apple has in their products, software and hardware. And before you tell me about the 'flops', i know about them and still seems to me that Apple, in terms of bringing great products to market, has an impressive track record, despite the times they have overlooked at something (They are humans after all).
verniesgarden
macrumors 65816
i just can't stand the black eye on the imac
just alum
and the whole elements thing kinda reminded me of adobe cs3
i like the look of the new keyboard if it didnt change the keys around, plus i use 2 CRTs i don't need the dim buttons, thats what i like about the old keyboard is that the buttons are labeled so you can do what you will with them now with at i feel locked into having those functions
just alum
and the whole elements thing kinda reminded me of adobe cs3
i like the look of the new keyboard if it didnt change the keys around, plus i use 2 CRTs i don't need the dim buttons, thats what i like about the old keyboard is that the buttons are labeled so you can do what you will with them now with at i feel locked into having those functions
Is there email support with domain redirect.
I logged into my .mac account and under the add personal domain you can redirect domains by having your registrar point to web.mac.com Thats great if you want to use .mac for your web page but what about email for your domain. What good is a domain if you cant create email accounts on it. A simple mail server mx record option would be nice. Anyone read or heard anything about this?
I logged into my .mac account and under the add personal domain you can redirect domains by having your registrar point to web.mac.com Thats great if you want to use .mac for your web page but what about email for your domain. What good is a domain if you cant create email accounts on it. A simple mail server mx record option would be nice. Anyone read or heard anything about this?
suneohair
macrumors 68020
I highly doubt that. With SS and Harpertown dropping by the end of September, the chances of Apple starting the 45nm chip rollout with the Mac Pro is quite high.
These CPUs will be cheaper than the current ones (Clovertown already is). Not to mention, if Apple keeps with the trends of graphics on the Pro we should see an 8500GT (or ATI equivalent) and a HD2900 of 8800GT*, 2GB of RAM standard, maybe a slight bump in HD.
Considering the Mac Pro hasn't been updated in a year, and no, the eight-core was not an update it was an option added on to the Mac Pro, the Mac Pro update should turn out to be a good one.
Eight-cores all around
Better GPUs
More RAM
More HD
Better mobo chipset
The question remains when. Does Apple have the potential to disappoint. Oh yeah. However, I don't think the iMac update was bad at all. The glossy screen is a bit odd, but otherwise good.
Oh, and in this update Apple could have offered: More RAM, new GPUs, and taken the line to all eight-core with the recent Clovertown price drops.
Educate yourself before you attempt to question what someone expects in an update. It will save you the embarrassment, because the fact is something could have and should have been done with the Mac Pro.
Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
I think I know what I am talking about very well. I think what I am saying is more of an opinion based on what I see than a fact. You have to watch what you say before you come off sounding like hot head ready to explode if someone talks bad about Apple.
I love the company... I love the software first... hardware second... so pretty computers aren't going to get my money. I need the software first and foremost then I need the software to work on what ever I put it on. My G5 has just as many cords sticking out the back of it as the PC photo does on the website. That's besides the point however. I want Apple to make breakthrough tech like they did in the past... updates that did make your jaw drop. The keynote was boring because everyone expected everything. it wasn't anything new at all, and the design was more of a "Huh" than a "Wow" so people just turned their heads slightly to the side trying to figure out what Steve was trying to do with this new Mac. People will get used to the new design, just like the first chin G5 iMac, and people will get used to the keyboard.... since it is out... I will get used to it eventually, especially when I get my Mac Pro.... but these updates were far too late and far to uninspired to be anything worth applauding...
It's like waiting for a late bus. The bus driver may be happy to pick you up and get on his way, but you were the one waiting in the cold rain.
Digitaljim
macrumors regular
I thought the new iMac design would grow on me, but after watching the keynote my initial "ew, fugly' thoughts have just been confirmed. The audience seemed to agree as the usual whooping and cheering was replaced by silence and an embarrassed sounding Steve Jobs.
The specs are fine, and the glossiness will appeal to a huge majority of people, but the design stinks. And design, after all, is what makes Apple different. This is an ugly, disjointed mess.
On the plus side, I am fan of the new keyboard.
The specs are fine, and the glossiness will appeal to a huge majority of people, but the design stinks. And design, after all, is what makes Apple different. This is an ugly, disjointed mess.
On the plus side, I am fan of the new keyboard.
Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
They should have made the entire thing black.
Yeah... you will have to pay full price. It may not be worth it to you unless you need 'Numbers' or whatever it is called. Users of iWork/iLife 05 may want to upgrade, but for those that have last years versions, the better choice may be to wait for next year... or two years from now... whenever Apple puts out the next version.
If you'd put aside your trolling stick for a second and read what others have already posted, you'd realize that the audience consisted of reporters, not Apple fanboys. Reporters don't hoot and applaud at The Steve because of this little thing called professionalism.
And please, the main event was not "we've painted it black". They modernized the design (the white polycarbonate has been around since G3 iBooks) and brought the price way down on both 20" and 24" iMacs while raising the specs considerably. Also, did you notice that whole iLife/iWork thing? You think an Apple-made competitor to Excel is not noteworthy? iMovie rebuilt from the ground up is not noteworthy?
I don't know what you're smoking, but I don't want any.