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The point is this: until you clarify this statement

I wonder when Apple will make some real changes in their lineup and give their customers something really good to sink their teeth into.

you are just talking out your ass. What counts as "really good"? How are the current Apple products not "really good"? Can you give an example of when Apple made a "really good" product in the past and how they are not doing it now? What company is currently making "really good" products if not Apple?
 
Hello. I don't find the cost for upgrading from iWorks'06 and iLife'06 to the latest version. Does that mean I have to pay for the full prices?

Yes. You only get a discount if you bought your Mac with iLife *really* close to the event where the new one was released.
 
I don't know... I think the iMacs are pretty sweet looking. Not sure why some of you think they're so ugly. Looked at some of the PC competition lately? I've been shopping around for a PC system for Windows tasks at work, and I tell you, it's not pretty. The best of the lot is HP - they've come a long way. :apple:
 
New iMac reminds me of Austin Powers's glass

I hope Apple offers an option for changing the color.
 
dot Mac seems more like Web 3.0

OK what the heck did they write the .mac app in? That thing is flippin amazing! You don't see that kind of performance even with a dedicated file format/plugin like flash!

And the way it interfaces so tightly with another desktop app, iphoto, really takes it to the next level. Now as they start to migrate even more of these kinds of user experience/technologies to closely integrated other apps and devices - look the hell out.

No one will come close to touching such an integrated hardware/software round-trip experience like that.

All i can say is ... apple keep on smokin that kind ....
 
I just got back from the Easton Apple store. I called ahead to see if they had any 2.8's in stock. "Don't know about the 2.8s" Goes away for a minute. "Yup, plenty" I get there (1 hour drive), and a kid goes back to get one. Several minutes later, he tries to ring me up for a 2.4. Luckily I noticed. He went to the back for Several minutes, comes out: "The 2.8's are Online purchase only."

So much for calling ahead. 1 lost sale Apple.


Don't let some idiots mistake ruin an awesome computer for you. That crap always happens just role with it itll be worth it.
 
No... this is iWork/iLife 08 - meaning that it will be for a year, or possibly two. I ordered mine today and am really looking forward to an updated Pages. I used Pages for a while, but prefer more of a word processing view so I switched to Office 04. After seeing the demo today I have every intention of switching back to iWork.

Do'h.. Heh, almost thought it was 2008. I suspect Apple might start releasing iWork/iLife at the end of a year for the next year then [iLife '09 in December '08]. Either way, you're right, this should be the longest run of iLife/iWork so far.
 
I know this been asked but isnt iLife always included in the Mac OS X CD? or its included with system disc when you get a computer?
 
I went down to the Apple store to check out the new iMac in person.
Good news: it's very fast and beautifully built. Looks and feels very solid.
Bad news: (IMO) the overall design is not as clean and simple as the previous iMac. The large black border surrounding the screen, and large aluminum chin are just not working for me visually.
The black Apple logo is a strange departure from their previous image.

I'm surprised they didn't simply base the new iMac on the successful Cinema Display, and include an external drive bay for a second HDD.
(think in terms of the Mac Pro drive sled design at the bottom/back of the display)
Mac Pro/23" ACD for me this year.

The new keyboard is awesome; very solid with excellent feel when typing.
I'm definitely buying one.
 
Gloss Display

Sorry but I just have to say why a gloss display ? just so it looks good in store? Couldn't we have had an option for a matte display for the people who have to actually use them all day.


Just my 2 cents
 
What dissapoints me even more is the price of memory upgrade ... 4gb of memory costs 850$ (yes, 850$). But well, Macs just are overpriced, I just cannot used to it ....

iWork and iWeb are great on the other hand.

2x 2GB dimms are expensive anyway, ram is not cheap these days.

Apple are marking down the machines, so they make money on upgrades like any other computer company.

Go look at any of the nice looking pcs, they are just as pricey or more pricey that apple.
 
yeah, this isnt vista were talking about here. Ive got vista installed on my mac pro which has 8 gigs of ram. Bastard uses 900 megs of memory eith no apps running! Don't know what the deal is.

Vista with Aero on uses slightly less than 500MB here. A lot, but not as much as on your computer apparently. Possibly you've got some other stuff loaded?
 
Considering you can buy a 1GB module (as in 1 X 1GB module) for ~ $40 retail, the 2 X 512MiB modules that come with a $1700 iMac is like literally worthless.

Note that the iMac comes with 1x1GB. And the upgrades are too expensive, as always.
 
anyone know if the apple stores in the uk are going to be stocking iLife/iWork and the new keyboards today? or will we have to wait until next week?
 
How about "matte finish" aluminum?

Getting closer from Apples web site.
New from the outside in.

iMac sets new standards for elegance and power. It packs a complete, high-performance computer into its all-in-one design. With its anodized aluminum frame and glass cover, it’s striking to behold. The glossy widescreen display — available in 20- and 24-inch sizes — makes photos and movies come alive with rich color. The use of recyclable glass and aluminum makes iMac friendlier to the environment, too.
 
Sorry but I just have to say why a gloss display ? just so it looks good in store? Couldn't we have had an option for a matte display for the people who have to actually use them all day.


Just my 2 cents

The whole thing is covered in glass, like an iPhone. It would literally be impossible to have a non-glossy display with this design. They'd have to find a way to make matte glass, which they could probably do but would be a bunch of trouble/expense.

FWIW, the thing looks better in person than in pictures. The aluminum comes off better and looks slick next to the black/glass. In pictures my mind keeps tyring to trick me that the aluminum is white (since that's what I'm used to). I wasn't so hot on the black border thing, but now having seen it I appreciate the contrast. Looks good. Incredibly thin.
 
It is really overpriced though. I can get the same for €220.

And I can get a 500 gig SATA drive for about $120.00 Apple charges $329.00. They also charge $400.00 for an obsolete video card from a year and a half ago that only costs $150.00
(Mac Pro BTO stuff)..
 
Now, what does this mean for the MacBook/Pro? If they are moving toward aluminium and away from polycarbonate... does anyone think they will ever put glass in a portable (apart from iPhone)?
 
It's be churlish to say the new iMacs aren't very nice machines but if you're a Mac OS X user, the choice of machines you have is only 50% there.

If you want something of similar power to the iMac but want your own monitor you have to either make do with a Mini or go for the Mac Pro, a huge hulking beast, or decide to have an iMac, or buy a laptop to use as a desktop...

It's all so lacking in choice...

I'd like a rackmount Mac. I'd like a midi-tower mac.

I'd like to see something like an Xserve, 1U or 2U that is designed to be used as a general purpose machine that has mid-range power. Without rack ears it's the pizza-box mac everyone's been wanting for years, with ears it slots right in amongst your audio or video rig, nice and neat.
 


.Mac - personal domains, increased storage (10GB) and transfer limit (100GB), Web Gallery (example)


So, now everybody can see again how slow .mac is... It took me 20 seconds to load the first page (and yes, I have one of the best connections to the internet over here available). 4 seconds is max for normal site.

Unworkable. Either Apple should boost for europe with servers over here or really lower that price.

P.s. Mostly it's the effects (like the effect under the pictures) that are really slow, so I guess it's something with CPU on their end.
 
It would appear to me that the only reason to hate the update is if you already hated the Imac. You are basically getting an updated machine for 200-300 dollars less then before the release.

People can squabble about the aluminum case and glossy screen. Some will not like it, most probably will. The same goes with the white Imac. Some liked the design, some not so much.
 
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