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I would say sabotaged by Samsung or an Apple Hater. Here in Australia there is a religion against Apple. Just the mention of Apple and people will burst into rage. Very likely someone caused this just like when someone sabotaged that religious painting to make it look like she was crying blood. They know deep down Apple is good and they can't handle that their hate is unverified so they go out of their way to make themselves feel better about their competitor product.
 
There are hundreds of thousands of people that work for Samsung. What's so unbelievable about one posting here and why would anyone care if you don't believe them?

And why would anyone not working for Samsung claim they do? Especially since this is a retail position. The important thing he claimed was "I work in retail, and often when people come with problems, it's because they are stupid".

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Doesnt need to be knockoff chargers, could of been a 3rd party charger from a big company but they still dont meet the quality standards of the Apple ones.

3rd party chargers from reputable companies will work just fine (with the caveat that _any_ company will have _some_ failure rate). You can expect them to work slower, because Apple chargers detect when the device plugged in is an iPhone or iPad and supply more power (but obviously not more than the device can handle).

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They're only dangerous if you mess with them. A hair dryer and a shower are two ordinary household appliances. But everyone knows that bringing a hair dryer in a shower would electrocute them.

Not everyone knows. Only most people. :mad:

On the other hand, look at the statistics. Let's say buying a cheap charger means a one in a million chance of getting killed, for lets say $15 saving. With 100 million devices, that would be $1.5 billion saved and 100 people dead.

If you look at road traffic, people do things where the chance of getting killed is much higher than one in a million, for much less benefit.
 
Only 3 pages....damn....i thought this would be cause for concern.

I hope apple does some forensics and publishes why this really happened.
 
I miss the days when common sense was common.

Are you like, what, 80? ;)

I do not think there was ever such a time. Old people in general have a superiority complex about their early years even if it was all quite crappy
 
Forget what charger was used... how can a iPad "detonate" under ANY circumstances involving electric current?


As someone else also posted and told you about, These batteries can have a very bad reaction when charged wrong or something like that. It's why their really should not be these "fake" chargers.

I used to race RC Cars. They now mostly use a Lithium battery (A LiPo) to run the cars. I've seen a couple cars catch fire from the LiPo. Most of the time they just smoke but some sometimes do have some explosion. The tracks hobby shop also had a little room catch fire. Someone was using some crappy knock off charger and a crappy battery and weren't in the room watching it. Had a reaction and next thing you know that room was on fire.
 
What's strange is that this happened in a store, so quite possible that someone intentionally damaged the device. For example, putting screws through the battery is known to be a bad idea.

Or, given that it wasn't the charger that started it could have been an old damaged charger. Tugged on too much and the wires hit the exterior and melted etc it
 
'Sparks continued to appear from the charging port and a fire brigade was called, no one was injured during the incident, the Australian news service said.'
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101183900

Funny thing is I live in Canberra and no local media outlets are reporting this. No doubt my Apple-hating workmates will all give me she-it about it tomorrow and say 'oh iPad Airs are faulty man... the news says they should e banned, you are so delusional using Apple, Samsung makes much higher quality gear!!'

The Samsung sabotage conspiracies obviously aren't true but looks like the power supply was to blame in one way or another.

There are a lot of farkwits out there who like to intentionally break Apple gear and make it look she-it. I busted a kid going through demo machines and doing an rm ~/ into terminals on all the display units in a shop then giggling when they got kernel panics.

Comes down to jealousy IMO. I like Apple devices so use them. I have no interest in trashing Samsung/Google/Dell...etc devices so that they look she-it. Nor do I really care if people choose to use non-Apple devices (then subject me to rants about how I'm stupid because I use Apple gear). Who farking cares? Not me...
 
There are a lot of farkwits out there who like to intentionally break Apple gear and make it look she-it. I busted a kid going through demo machines and doing an rm ~/ into terminals on all the display units in a shop then giggling when they got kernel panics.

Firstly that command would do nothing because the directory would not be empty - it would need to be an rm -rf ~/

Secondly, are you claiming that removing a users home directory causes a kernel panic?
 
Firstly that command would do nothing because the directory would not be empty - it would need to be an rm -rf ~/

Secondly, are you claiming that removing a users home directory causes a kernel panic?

Try it yourself if you're so confident mate and then end yourself.
 
When I hear of a lightening storm, I stay indoors. When I hear of an iPad in a store, I would think it's safe to go in.

It is. Relax.

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The video is made by a company that apparently makes bags for remote control car enthusiasts to contain the explosion/fire; apparently RC battery packs don't usually have the same sort of overcharge protection computer battery packs do (to save cost, maybe?) so it's a more common issue than with computer batteries.
They're only making kids toys, why should those be safer than laptops? :eek:
 
People are generally stupid.

There is more to this story. People use the wrong chargers, get their devices wet, drop them, light them on fire, and so on and blame companies for them not working or exploding.

I work for Samsung and people complain about their phones not working. 99 percent of the time they dont work cause someone did something stupid. I miss the days when common sense was common.

People read things on the net and freak out. Dont believe everything you read on the net.

You have read the article right?

This was an iPad in an Apple store, not one at someones houses being charged with a cheap charger, or getting wet.
 
I would say sabotaged by Samsung or an Apple Hater. Here in Australia there is a religion against Apple. Just the mention of Apple and people will burst into rage. Very likely someone caused this just like when someone sabotaged that religious painting to make it look like she was crying blood. They know deep down Apple is good and they can't handle that their hate is unverified so they go out of their way to make themselves feel better about their competitor product.

Funny thing is I live in Canberra and no local media outlets are reporting this. No doubt my Apple-hating workmates will all give me she-it about it tomorrow and say 'oh iPad Airs are faulty man... the news says they should e banned, you are so delusional using Apple, Samsung makes much higher quality gear!!'

The Samsung sabotage conspiracies obviously aren't true but looks like the power supply was to blame in one way or another.

There are a lot of farkwits out there who like to intentionally break Apple gear and make it look she-it. I busted a kid going through demo machines and doing an rm ~/ into terminals on all the display units in a shop then giggling when they got kernel panics.

Comes down to jealousy IMO. I like Apple devices so use them. I have no interest in trashing Samsung/Google/Dell...etc devices so that they look she-it. Nor do I really care if people choose to use non-Apple devices (then subject me to rants about how I'm stupid because I use Apple gear). Who farking cares? Not me...

It doesn't always have to be sabotage, Samsung, Apple haters or third party chargers (which should be fine as long as they conform to USB specifications, and I very much doubt Vodafone would be using cheap, Chinese third party eBay chargers). It's almost embarrassing reading the conspiracy theories on here. Without any information, the participants of this thread have jumped to every possibility out there other than the possibility that perhaps their beloved Apple devices can actually fail.

Gee, there are plenty of "Apple Haters" in the U.S., too. "Hate" being used the way teenagers use it. I absolutely hate (mildly dislike) Chipotle." Whatever.

Do you guys mean to say that lots of people in Australia actually hate (like, say, Tea Party people hate Obama) Apple? Why? Is it safe to bring an iPhone to Australia? I mean, just how much do they "hate"?
 
Try it yourself if you're so confident mate and then end yourself.

Ok, no problem.

mbp:~ username$ rm ~/
rm: /Users/username/: is a directory
mbp:~ username$

Just as I said, it does absolutely nothing because the directory is not empty. :rolleyes: It simply won't do anything unless you use r for recursive and f for force (do not prompt).

Maybe variants of your command then?

rm -rf ~/

This would actually remove my home directory but it certainly would not cause a "kernel panic".

What if we put a space there?

rm -rf ~ /

This would remove my home directory and then get a permission denied against removing /

or we could just hop straight to it and try

rm -rf /

which would again do nothing, because in a store, presumably I would not have the sudo or root password to escalate privilege.

Even if I did the above command and I did have the sudo or root password it would be unlikely to cause a "kernel panic". All the parts of the OS and apps which were loaded into RAM would function OK until they needed to access the filesystem and then they would start producing all kinds of errors (file not found).

It wouldn't be all that different from if you just yanked the drive out of your machine...I haven't actually tried this mind you but I've had SANs detach themselves from large Linux clusters which is pretty much the same thing. Or, you could run a Bash script which loops and prints something to stdout and then delete the script... the script will continue to run.
 
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People are generally stupid.

There is more to this story. People use the wrong chargers, get their devices wet, drop them, light them on fire, and so on and blame companies for them not working or exploding.

I work for Samsung and people complain about their phones not working. 99 percent of the time they dont work cause someone did something stupid. I miss the days when common sense was common.

People read things on the net and freak out. Dont believe everything you read on the net.

Are you saying that 99% of Samsung product adoptees are stupid?
 
Ok, no problem.



Just as I said, it does absolutely nothing because the directory is not empty. :rolleyes: It simply won't do anything unless you use r for recursive and f for force (do not prompt).

Maybe variants of your command then?

rm -rf ~/

This would actually remove my home directory but it certainly would not cause a "kernel panic".

What if we put a space there?

rm -rf ~ /

This would remove my home directory and then get a permission denied against removing /

or we could just hop straight to it and try

rm -rf /

which would again do nothing, because in a store, presumably I would not have the sudo or root password to escalate privilege.

Even if I did the above command and I did have the sudo or root password it would be unlikely to cause a "kernel panic". All the parts of the OS and apps which were loaded into RAM would function OK until they needed to access the filesystem and then they would start producing all kinds of errors (file not found).

It wouldn't be all that different from if you just yanked the drive out of your machine...I haven't actually tried this mind you but I've had SANs detach themselves from large Linux clusters which is pretty much the same thing. Or, you could run a Bash script which loops and prints something to stdout and then delete the script... the script will continue to run.

:( You were too chicken to try it the forgot to end yourself.

I wish I was there in your little bedroom at mummy's house so I could see your pimplie 10 year old face cry as you lose all of your $hyt3 and have to explain to mummy why your computer's broken.

I'm sure your parents are proud that they gave birth to a troll faced effing idiot who wastes time trying to prove that deleting everything on your HD (except for the protected files) won't break your PC. I seriously dare you to do it instead of being an d!ck43@d and using the internet to pretend you know everything.
 
:( You were too chicken to try it the forgot to end yourself.

I wish I was there in your little bedroom at mummy's house so I could see your pimplie 10 year old face cry as you lose all of your $hyt3 and have to explain to mummy why your computer's broken.

I'm sure your parents are proud that they gave birth to a troll faced effing idiot who wastes time trying to prove that deleting everything on your HD (except for the protected files) won't break your PC. I seriously dare you to do it instead of being an d!ck43@d and using the internet to pretend you know everything.

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It would have been much more mature to just admit you made a mistake.

Besides..it was just bad luck that you got into that discussion with me as I was a Linux sys admin for 5 years (and i've been using various types of Linux and Unix for 17 years) and know my commandline pretty well ;)

Here is a screen capture of your command being run. It does nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxk9_6WhgM
 
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