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Well, if they are worried about distractions, then NO KIDS IN CARS, and only one person in the car at a time (just the driver)

All cars should be single person units, or every person is in a bubble the driver can't see or hear.

And there should be tools to keep people's eyes open… no blinking.

Oh, and the sun gets in my eyes sometimes… let's get rid of that.
 
Well, if they are worried about distractions, then NO KIDS IN CARS, and only one person in the car at a time (just the driver)

All cars should be single person units, or every person is in a bubble the driver can't see or hear.

And there should be tools to keep people's eyes open… no blinking.

Oh, and the sun gets in my eyes sometimes… let's get rid of that.


Yes, the evil sun working it's devilish magic of death. :)
 
CarPlay enables you to do more non-driving things while behind the wheel. It's entirely fair that the associated risks be fully scrutinised. I'm a cyclist and my safety (as well as the safety of other road users) should not jeopardised by drivers performing non-driving tasks.

This may be particular to the driver, but in my experience, I've been alarmed at how dangerous it feels to even make a hands-free call in the car. I imagine talking to Siri and thinking of the wording of composing an iMessage would be just as bad if not worse.

im sorry, but if you are concerned for your safety on the road as a cyclist (as you well should be) - you should not ride on the street, especially on busy roads.

im not disagreeing with you, but it does not matter what products they allow or disallow or what traffic rules or laws they make, if someone does not follow these rules or uses an unauthorized product either on purpose or because they do not know the restriction... you are the one dead. punishing them after the fact will not change this.

Now that being said, everything that CarPlay has been announced to enable you to do, people are already doing while driving, but they currently have to take their hands off the wheel and eyes off the road in order to do so. CarPlay is making these tasks (that people are going to do whether CarPlay is released or not) less distracting. So you tell me which makes you feel safer...
 
10 months later...

Samsung releases SamPlay and "experts" praise it for having the same capabilities and being innovative.

(Remember Touch ID?)
 
I have to agree that most of the functions should be turned off when driving (for the driver) but how does the car know it's the driver giving the verbal instructions and not a passenger?

On occasion I'll change the song using the cars head unit (no my iPhone) and I'll change a setting on my Garmin GPS (not my iPhone) but when it's safe to do so, mostly stopped at lights.

Unfortunately it comes down to personal responsibility and theres nothing that can stop some people doing stupid things while driving.
 
Oh, these people must work for Google... Google Glass couldn't possibly be a problem sitting right it front of your eyes at all times with texts coming in...
 
And in other news today . . .

Auto safety experts are trying to have ice-cream banned because people might eat it in the car but opponents argue that ice-cream isn't an integral part of the car. Auto safety experts are now in full opposition to fast food drive throughs because they contribute to eating while driving.
 
The problem isn't knowing what the dials are.

it's finding the dials without visual interaction with the console (idealy).

if you have to take your eyes off the road to make sure your hands are on the right nobs, you've got too many knobs. If you have to constantly take your eyes off the road to make sure you're hands are on the right buttons. You have too many buttons.

if all this happens, then you have a console that was not designed right.

personal responsibility would actually say, it's not just your responsibility for knowing the buttons by reading the manual, but also knowing appropriate times for using.

with this many buttons and knobs requiring that much additional viewing time due to complexity, its not a well thought out console. And theres a great reason why it never caught on.

But as I said, it's not the worst and if you had a Volvo I'm pretty sure you would get used to the buttons and use them without looking.

Porsche's current design is mad because all the buttons are around the gearstick:

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You are absolutely correct. I should have set up the radio how I liked it while I was still parked in the rental lot. I did spend more time than usual trying to figure out the other systems (air conditioning, etc.) So I take responsibility for a little bit of distracted driving while I was trying to figure out what buttons to push. I made the call at the time that the 4-lane highway was pretty empty so I was willing to risk it.

I just found it ironic that Volvo saw fit to load the car with all manner of safe driving mechanisms, yet fail to create a distraction-free console.

By the way, I wasn't kidding about the coffee cup.

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I've not seen a Volvo with that interior so would need to take our word for it being bad. Rental cars can be the worst though because every one of them is different. And yes, that is becoming common telling you to take a break, lorry drivers have to do it by law so I guess it's time for car drivers? Well according to Volvo anyway.
Some dashboards are better than others though.
 
If CarPlay doesn't let me play angry birds on it while driving I don't see the point. Besides once iAds starts playing video ads between me switching from music to maps I'll most likely be more distracted than I will trying to decipher the wrong directions I'm getting from maps.:D
 
Oh, these people must work for Google... Google Glass couldn't possibly be a problem sitting right it front of your eyes at all times with texts coming in...

Erm, No!

The case nevertheless renewed debate about distracted driving, which was linked to car crashes that caused injuries to an estimated 421,000 people in the United States in 2012, up 9 percent from 2011, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Esquibel, member of a state Senate transportation panel, successfully pushed in 2010 for Wyoming to outlaw driver texting, which is already banned in most states. Some states also ban the use of handheld mobile phones while driving.

He said the proposed ban on the use of wearable computers while driving faces an uncertain fate in a Republican-led legislature in a state known for its ambivalence toward government regulations.

In information about Glass posted online by Google, the company advises those engaged in field tests - dubbed Explorers - to abide by state laws that limit use of mobile devices while driving.

"Above all, even when you're following the law, don't hurt yourself or others by failing to pay attention to the road," the company says.

Asked Wednesday about legislation restricting use of devices like Glass, Google said Explorers should use the device responsibly and put safety first: "Glass is built to connect you more with the world around you, not distract you from it."

U.S. travel group AAA said it has "serious concerns about the safety elements of these technologies" on the road.



So that's 421,000 people in the US alone in 2012 who were injured due to car crashes related to distracted drivers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-usa-wyoming-google-idUSBREA0S25A20140129

Yeah mate, they work for google and are picking on Apple :rolleyes: I do hope you were joking?
 
That is just what I was saying, CarPlay will be a hassle because it will requires more concentration. Today, twiking a knob for the radio or AC is intuitive for the hand, with CarPlay you do not know what you are touching, you will have to look at it.

Terrible system.
 
What a crock! Have these guys been in any late model Chevrolet lately? You plug an iPhone (or likely any other smartphone) into the system and the phone gets very connected to the big screen in the middle of the dash.

Where were they when these cars came out? This is infuriating, because this is just an attention grab. They see a chance to put a web page up that says Apple and iPhone, so they can get more hits.
 
I'm aware that people generally hate these sort of posts. But in case you haven't thought about it, here are the things I think the "connected car" should be able to do in the near future. Most of it has nothing to do with distracting a driver.

- Remotely locate the car on a map.
- Engine diagnostic data displayed in plain English, not fault codes.
- Remotely lock, unlock, open windows.
- Virtual key. You Keep your phone in your pocket and the door unlocks when you approach the car, starts via push button.
- Track all driving history.
- Hands free calling and texting via siri and steering wheel buttons.
- Radio apps, safari, video apps etc.
- Driving directions displayed on a screen in the instrument cluster itself, directly in front of the driver. (already on Mercedes)
- Push notifications whenever the car alarm is triggered.
- A front and rear camera recording at all times. You may be able to view it in real time from your phone via face time. Recall video from accidents, alarm triggers, etc.
- I would like the front passenger to be able to access features that would otherwise disabled while car is in motion. This would require a sensor, perhaps a 3d scanner, to determine who is interacting with the display.


The interesting thing is that a lot of that functionality has to do with integration between the hardware makers, the car makers, blackberry's qnx, and Apple. So you have four companies that need to get their **** together. A lot of it has nothing to do with Apple, except for the UI and access to Apple's ecosystem, data centers, etc.
 
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I am SO incredibly tired of people who whine that any reasonable concerns and discussions about safety constitute some tyrannical infringement on our unrestricted liberties.

Knobs and sliders can be operated by touch without taking your eyes off of the road. You all know that .
Phone conversations are different than conversations with someone in the car simply because a person in the car is sharing the same space/reality as you and will likely not demand your conscious attention if road conditions indicate.

Go to a funeral of a bicyclist killed because someone was fishing for a cd or tuning a radio. All existing capabilities. You really want to throw the door open to dozens of other distractions without at least thinking about it?

Everything's on the table when it comes to safety.
Help or shut up.

Guess what, people have opinions. If you don't like it then don't read it. It's a forum. If you can't handle the forum, then get out. Now maybe you don't mean to be this way but you sound like one of those arrogant people who think their opinion is the only thing that counts while everyone else can take a long walk. Well, if this is true, get over yourself. Of course this is just my opinion.
 
How about the progressives stop telling me how to live my life and let me make my own decisions as to what impacts my driving?
 
I have concerns with this too. Non-safety, entertainment technology should not be integrated into vehicles. I’m OK with GPS units (even though they suck) and HVAC controls but nothing past radio or basic music. We all should concentrate on driving from point A to B as safely as humanly possible. I don’t want to die because some guy was looking at a screen instead of watching the road.

Signed,
Motorcycle owner
 
This is ridiculous

These people are idiots. So what exactly is the difference between talking to someone on the phone while keeping your eyes on the road and talking to someone in the passenger seat next to you? Maybe we need to remove radios from the car too as they can be distracting. Maybe we ought to outlaw billboards or women with short skirts. Give me a break. This is ridiculous. Here you have car companies and technology companies trying to come up with a solution... something that is SAFER than the crap entertainment systems in most cars...
 
These people are idiots. So what exactly is the difference between talking to someone on the phone while keeping your eyes on the road and talking to someone in the passenger seat next to you?

Actually if you take the time to read up, tests have shown there is quite a bit of difference.
It is less distracting talking to someone in the car actually
Plus, IMPORTANT POINT the person in the car, is also aware of what's going on at the time, they would shut up, alter what they were saying, etc, dependent on any given situation, where someone at the other end of the phone may be trying to get you to focus on what they are saying when something dangerous is happening re a road junction or something.
Someone in the car would modify their talk in such a situation
 
As with all vultures, it's opportunism now that Carplay is grabbing press attention. It was the same when the iPod came out about volume restrictions. Hearing experts raised their concerns and only did so because Apple gets press attention. Yet Apple didn't create the music player, others were there first yet not a peep out of the vultures then.
 
Auto safety experts are trying to have ice-cream banned because people might eat it in the car but opponents argue that ice-cream isn't an integral part of the car. Auto safety experts are now in full opposition to fast food drive throughs because they contribute to eating while driving.


Exactly what I was thinking, I can't wait for all the fast food restaurants to protest when eating while driving is made illegal. Oh wait...:rolleyes:
 
As with all vultures, it's opportunism now that Carplay is grabbing press attention. It was the same when the iPod came out about volume restrictions. Hearing experts raised their concerns and only did so because Apple gets press attention. Yet Apple didn't create the music player, others were there first yet not a peep out of the vultures then.

Bull! Sony had to implement volume limiters, are they special too? Get off this daft trip that this is all 'because it's apple' crap. It is valid arguments to save lives and injuries, but hey I'm sure you'll never be involved in an accident because you were hit by someone looking at their touchscreen eh?

These board of experts scrutinies all devices, NOT just Apple!
 
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