The only difference is that Apple's solution will work better. It's also a fact that while other systems may have drawn some criticism for features like speech to text, Apple will draw a lot more because of the public nature of the company.
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The only difference is that Apple's solution will work better. It's also a fact that while other systems may have drawn some criticism for features like speech to text, Apple will draw a lot more because of the public nature of the company.
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Plus 4G iPad Mini = Carplay.
http://www.exogear.com/products-exomount-tablet-s-cd-slot-mount.html
Plus 4G iPad Mini = Carplay.
Research showed that the difference is that the person in the passenger seat is aware of traffic conditions, and would modify their behavior accordingly.
For example, if you were coming up on a stopped vehicle, they might stop talking for a second, then go into a defensive posture and yell "look out!" if you weren't paying enough attention.
On the other hand, someone on the phone with you has no such knowledge of your surroundings or situation. They'll just keep on distracting your attention right into the crash.
not sure if serious....
how does one become an expert at something like that?
Years of relevant study in acreditted universities.
Years of related professional.
Years of Experience doing testing and research in the field of safety.
There are litterally thousands, if not millions of ways people become experts at these things and the fact you even can think this question, never mind think it's legit...
They are Experts. That means they generally know what they are talking about, and generally apply the scientific method to their research to be able to come up with these sort of claims.
They don't just make it up
The question is ... how does this works for deaf people?
What's that? We can't hear you
Poor analogy. This is more akin to building an ice-cream dispenser into the steering wheel.
Sorry, but roads are not reserved exclusively for motor vehicles. I take due care in choosing my routes, and take roads with wide left lanes or cycle lanes. It's a fair expectation, in fact a legal obligation, that others on the road look ahead and pay attention at all times. Safety studies help determine whether CarPlay breaches that obligation.
Those that text and drive should lose their licences (enforcement of course is a big problem). Those that don't probably shouldn't be given a safer, but potentially still dangerous, way of doing so. In any case, good for them for highlighting safety concerns.
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Yes, they attacked Apple when there are multiple other touch-screen in-car solutions out there...
BUT they are still correct! It's not about you fiddling in your pocket to find your podcast (you shouldn't) - it's looking away from the road at a screen in the middle of the front to find the temperature, seat incline or other options because you can't feel the controls.
Buttons and knobs ARE more safe because you can feel when you are touching the right control, and you can feel if it's pressed or if it's set to the correct setting without having to look at it!
BUT they are still correct! It's not about you fiddling in your pocket to find your podcast (you shouldn't) - it's looking away from the road at a screen in the middle of the front to find the temperature, seat incline or other options because you can't feel the controls.
Buttons and knobs ARE more safe because you can feel when you are touching the right control, and you can feel if it's pressed or if it's set to the correct setting without having to look at it!
Erm, No!
The case nevertheless renewed debate about distracted driving, which was linked to car crashes that caused injuries to an estimated 421,000 people in the United States in 2012, up 9 percent from 2011, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Esquibel, member of a state Senate transportation panel, successfully pushed in 2010 for Wyoming to outlaw driver texting, which is already banned in most states. Some states also ban the use of handheld mobile phones while driving.
He said the proposed ban on the use of wearable computers while driving faces an uncertain fate in a Republican-led legislature in a state known for its ambivalence toward government regulations.
In information about Glass posted online by Google, the company advises those engaged in field tests - dubbed Explorers - to abide by state laws that limit use of mobile devices while driving.
"Above all, even when you're following the law, don't hurt yourself or others by failing to pay attention to the road," the company says.
Asked Wednesday about legislation restricting use of devices like Glass, Google said Explorers should use the device responsibly and put safety first: "Glass is built to connect you more with the world around you, not distract you from it."
U.S. travel group AAA said it has "serious concerns about the safety elements of these technologies" on the road.
So that's 421,000 people in the US alone in 2012 who were injured due to car crashes related to distracted drivers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-usa-wyoming-google-idUSBREA0S25A20140129
Yeah mate, they work for google and are picking on Apple
Ah, yes. I was. Chill-pills recommended 4 times daily.
Why Stop There?
Each intersection will have the intersecting street removed. Then, a car ride will be straight, with only right turns. Your eyes will be held to the proper thing the car designates you to look at. And only that. Look away and Google will give you an electric shock. And everybody will stop driving because it's the cause of such boredom and pain.
I understand no texting. Well, not with voice typing it out. It now works with Siri, and it's fine. In case you don't know, you're supposed to keep looking around your entire field of view. A momentary glance at the dashboard, the transmission, the radio -- this does no harm at all.
By the way, anybody remember any safety outcry about Microsoft Sync?
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Research also shows that the most distracted driver is one who is having a heated conversation. The ex-wife phones up to ask where the alimony check is, you know. Heated. Or a woman you're friendly with phones up,and you start getting really, um, interested. Don't talk on the phone while driving. At least, no more than, "I'm gonna be late. Home at seven, okay? Love you. See you." Phones in cars are for the guy in the back seat of the limousine. And you close the partition.
Each intersection will have the intersecting street removed. Then, a car ride will be straight, with only right turns. Your eyes will be held to the proper thing the car designates you to look at. And only that. Look away and Google will give you an electric shock. And everybody will stop driving because it's the cause of such boredom and pain.
I understand no texting. Well, not with voice typing it out. It now works with Siri, and it's fine. In case you don't know, you're supposed to keep looking around your entire field of view. A momentary glance at the dashboard, the transmission, the radio -- this does no harm at all.
By the way, anybody remember any safety outcry about Microsoft Sync?
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Research also shows that the most distracted driver is one who is having a heated conversation. The ex-wife phones up to ask where the alimony check is, you know. Heated. Or a woman you're friendly with phones up,and you start getting really, um, interested. Don't talk on the phone while driving. At least, no more than, "I'm gonna be late. Home at seven, okay? Love you. See you." Phones in cars are for the guy in the back seat of the limousine. And you close the partition.
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Time for some of the safety experts to get fixed,... so they stop procreating...
Time for some of the safety experts to get fixed,... so they stop procreating...
As an interesting comparative note, Japan has drastically less strict laws about what can be on what screen (not to mention who needs to be wearing a seat belt) than the US, so relatively speaking, in that country, this seems like something of a non-issue.
I was in a recent-model Honda Odyssey in Japan a few days ago in which the driver had a TV show playing on the factory dashboard screen while cruising down the road. Technologically, it's nothing impressive, but it looked completely alien to my US-driver eyes, given how flagrantly illegal that is in the US, and the great lengths US dashboard systems go to prevent you from fiddling with the navigation system while in motion or displaying video on a screen visible to the driver.
This isn't to say I think it's a good idea, just offering perspective. Personally, I'm horrified by distracted drivers--I'd just flat-out take away someone's license, permanently, if they were ever caught texting while driving.
I was in a recent-model Honda Odyssey in Japan a few days ago in which the driver had a TV show playing on the factory dashboard screen while cruising down the road. Technologically, it's nothing impressive, but it looked completely alien to my US-driver eyes, given how flagrantly illegal that is in the US, and the great lengths US dashboard systems go to prevent you from fiddling with the navigation system while in motion or displaying video on a screen visible to the driver.
This isn't to say I think it's a good idea, just offering perspective. Personally, I'm horrified by distracted drivers--I'd just flat-out take away someone's license, permanently, if they were ever caught texting while driving.
Ah, bleh.
Way too much electronics in a car nowadays. I miss the days, when all you have to do, is, turn the ignition key, adjust the temperature or fan control with a simple dialer switch and the radio was controlled with in a similar fashion - or you just left it off and listened to a great sounding engine instead The car weight was around 1000 kg, cornered great and was fun to drive.
Nowadays when I rent a car (1600 kg) on my holiday trip, it pisses me off, that I literally have to study the car's interior layout and controls for 15 min, just to have a boring drive from A to B and listen to the radio.
Way too much electronics in a car nowadays. I miss the days, when all you have to do, is, turn the ignition key, adjust the temperature or fan control with a simple dialer switch and the radio was controlled with in a similar fashion - or you just left it off and listened to a great sounding engine instead
The car weight was around 1000 kg, cornered great and was fun to drive. Nowadays when I rent a car (1600 kg) on my holiday trip, it pisses me off, that I literally have to study the car's interior layout and controls for 15 min, just to have a boring drive from A to B and listen to the radio.
Some of you seems to have missed the fact that CarPlay allows interaction with:
• Physical controls (buttons + knobs)
• Voice
• Touchscreen
iPod compatible car consoles with physical controls didn't create any accident did it?
• Physical controls (buttons + knobs)
• Voice
• Touchscreen
iPod compatible car consoles with physical controls didn't create any accident did it?
Ok....
The Foundation for Traffic Safety needs to talk to the guy last week that almost hit me head on. He had a bagel hanging from his mouth and a coffee in the dash holder.
Or wait, maybe it was someone one putting on their makeup in the rear view mirror?
Texting is illegal in almost every state. How many die each year doing it while driving?
UGH !!!!!!
The Foundation for Traffic Safety needs to talk to the guy last week that almost hit me head on. He had a bagel hanging from his mouth and a coffee in the dash holder.
Or wait, maybe it was someone one putting on their makeup in the rear view mirror?
Texting is illegal in almost every state. How many die each year doing it while driving?
UGH !!!!!!
This is the fundamental and non-trivial difference between an interaction with someone in the vehicle and with someone who is not (or, for that matter, an interaction between any technology and a live passenger).
Most of us, if you regularly drive with someone else in the car, have at least once experienced their passenger--or been that passenger--saying "Watch out!" when there was something the driver didn't see, due to a conversation, fiddling with the radio, or just plain not noticing. To offer an anecdote, in L.A. I witnessed from the back seat my wife preventing a serious accident from the passenger seat when my father--who was a good driver with decades of experience and no technological distractions--looked away from the road at the wrong instant.
I have no statistics to back this up, but I'd be willing to bet if you did a study that the accident rate is slightly lower in vehicles with a second driver in the passenger seat than with a solo driver, whether they're talking to anybody or not.
Well, it remains to be seen if Apple's implementation is better, you would need to try all cars to compare it I guess, maybe someone will do that?
I still don't buy this whole because it's Apple argument though.
Man, it really doesn't come across well on the forums.
Anyway, talking about car interiors, as it's the Geneva motor show week, check out the new Audi 'virtual cockpit' design for the new TT. Not sure if I like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t95GyOU_Ec0
It seems that you never used an iOS device before. iPhone has ambient light censor and auto screen brightness since 2007.
Studies have shown that failure to signal causes more accidents than distracted driving. I think stiffer penalties for not following the laws that govern the basic operation of a vehicle would do much more to improve the safety of our roads than hopping on the distracted driving bandwagon. Better yet, establish a graduated driver's licensing system that only gives full privileges to people who can operate a vehicle safely in a wide variety of situations.
I think you should apologize to the poster you responded to. It's not funny nor witty. Do you have any idea how many deaf or hard of hearing people are in this forum?
What you said is very insulting and degrading.
This person has a valid point which I agree with and I find CarPlay a very problematic concept for deaf drivers who can afford this technology but can't use it effectively.
This is why using a voice-activated UI for system is poorly thought out by Apple. If Apple is this visionary, then they're full of it. And if they claim to think of every little detail, then this is one little detail they screwed up with.
What was the point of a scroll wheel device with a screen that looks like that wants to be tapped at? If the icons are on there, then aren't they supposed to be 'touch' enabled on screen?
When it comes to using GPS, it's not a problem if deaf drivers can import their programmed routes from the phone to that app, that is, IF the voice-activation is skipped.
But making calls or using messages will not work effectively for deaf or hard of hearing people ( ie. drivers ). That's what the iPhone is for. So they need to get rid of the Messages app and strip it down to just GPS, map directories ( ie. gas stations, schools, PDs, shops, etc ), or anything related to navigation purposes. Even emergency apps to alert nearby services in case something goes wrong with the car, or if the driver is incapacitated.
But communicating with CarPlay with voice doesn't seem to work, especially if Siri speaks back, they won't be able to understand what's being said. Why didn't the presentation video demonstrate Siri's subtitled text responses like the iPhone does? Doesn't CarPlay do this? If not, then that's a huge problem and if the deaf driver tries to use CarPlay, Apple could be looking at a big class action lawsuit.
yes - distractive driving is a reality that most people under estimate
If aapl can integrate a totally hands free user interface - then I'm in
Touching buttons on a dashboard is arcane
A steering wheel or bluetooth solution is the way to go
imho: car mfg are behind the curve with computer and interface integration
Way behind
If aapl can integrate a totally hands free user interface - then I'm in
Touching buttons on a dashboard is arcane
A steering wheel or bluetooth solution is the way to go
imho: car mfg are behind the curve with computer and interface integration
Way behind