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I WAS excited about this, but it won't launch. Gets to the splash screen and quits. My MBP is 5,2 and meets the requirements, so it should be fine.
 
Generic tech help....

I WAS excited about this, but it won't launch. Gets to the splash screen and quits. My MBP is 5,2 and meets the requirements, so it should be fine.


Have you tried turning it on and off?
 
Maybe before going on about Autodesk blah blah blah! have a look at your system, Autodesk have worked REALLY hard on this one AS have ALL the beta testers, I have been using the mac version for a long time and this version is far from being beta.

FYI, I have not had any issues for the last 4 months :p but then again I keep my system working like a clock and only install things I need.

I really annoys me that Autodesk is made out to be a evil and bad company whatever it does! maybe they should drop Mac again just to keep the whiners happy :confused: and maybe all the beta testers not use there OWN FREE time helping to get programs working before being sent out into the wild! and bring programs back to the Mac community. :confused: but then again thankfully the whiners are few and far between :p
Wait, so you're saying it's MY fault I found a bug after only using the program for 10 minutes? On Apple's latest hardware, to boot? Stuff that's the same across all of Apple's machines? Well, sorry about raining on your parade dude.

It's not that AutoDesk is evil, it's that it really p***es people like me off when I'm told that about a year's worth of work gets me a glitchy program with reproducible bugs. And they're not wacky either, you don't have to navigate through 6 dozen menus to find them, just draw a line and wait for about 10 minutes for the program to crash.

What's more, I don't think it's the quality assurance team that's at fault, I think it's the people who wrote the code for this thing. In my experience AutoDesk's software is bloated, slow, and circumvents well known programming conventions all in the name of making the program seem more flashy, or more visually appealing.
 
Right tool for the job...

Observation: none of you guys are really engineers

Basis: if you were, you would have gotten a Windows machine to run Autodesk on. A computer is a tool. Software is a tool. If you need specific software to do your job, whining about not having it for your tool of choice is silly. You chose the wrong tool.
 
Observation: none of you guys are really engineers

Basis: if you were, you would have gotten a Windows machine to run Autodesk on. A computer is a tool. Software is a tool. If you need specific software to do your job, whining about not having it for your tool of choice is silly. You chose the wrong tool.
You did read all the comments, didn't you? Because it really sounds like you're making a blanket statement without having actually paid any attention. :rolleyes:
 
Observation: none of you guys are really engineers

Basis: if you were, you would have gotten a Windows machine to run Autodesk on. A computer is a tool. Software is a tool. If you need specific software to do your job, whining about not having it for your tool of choice is silly. You chose the wrong tool.

Engineers are all about finding the best tool for the job, not just a tool. And if they can't find the best tool, they'll figure out how to make it or form it from other items.

Thus, it makes perfect sense for them to want Autodesk to run on the Mac, and to run well. After all, it's one of the best tools for their job, and the Mac is one of the best tools at it's job, so the combination is what many engineers are going to want (although of course, they ultimately probably want something beyond what the Mac or Autodesk can offer, but know that it's still in the very early design phase, whatever "it" is).

jW
 
You did read all the comments, didn't you? Because it really sounds like you're making a blanket statement without having actually paid any attention. :rolleyes:

With all the eye-rolling around here it's a wonder anyone takes anything seriously. I made a succinct point, to which you responded with some vague reply and eye rolling. You know who else does that? 14 year old girls when they don't have a clue what is going on.
 
Engineers are all about finding the best tool for the job, not just a tool. And if they can't find the best tool, they'll figure out how to make it or form it from other items.

Thus, it makes perfect sense for them to want Autodesk to run on the Mac, and to run well. After all, it's one of the best tools for their job, and the Mac is one of the best tools at it's job, so the combination is what many engineers are going to want (although of course, they ultimately probably want something beyond what the Mac or Autodesk can offer, but know that it's still in the very early design phase, whatever "it" is).

jW

But that's my point. If you need to use AutoCad, the Mac most definitely IS NOT the best tool for the job.

The problem is people get too hung up on the platform, even when it becomes a liability to getting their job done.

Comments like "I've been waiting a really long time for this particular piece of software to finally come to the Mac - guess I'll make do with those other, inferior program" just illustrates they don't take their job seriously.
 
Observation: none of you guys are really engineers

Basis: if you were, you would have gotten a Windows machine to run Autodesk on. A computer is a tool. Software is a tool. If you need specific software to do your job, whining about not having it for your tool of choice is silly. You chose the wrong tool.
I would just as soon use a paper and pencil, you should too if all you're going to write about is crap like this.

Obvious troll is obvious.
 
I would just as soon use a paper and pencil, you should too if all you're going to write about is crap like this.

Obvious troll is obvious.

fxtech is right. How is he trolling? Use the right tool for the job. Shouldn't matter what or where it came from.
You probably use a fork to eat soup instead of a spoon.
 
fxtech is right. How is he trolling? Use the right tool for the job. Shouldn't matter what or where it came from.
You probably use a fork to eat soup instead of a spoon.
You didn't notice that he started a "Windows is better than Mac" war on a forum purely for Mac fans? For shame.
 
You didn't notice that he started a "Windows is better than Mac" war on a forum purely for Mac fans? For shame.

I didn't take his post that way. The way I understood it is, if autocad doesn't work for the mac to get the job done, then don't use it. Just don't try and complain when there is a better alternative out there. And if autocad is a necessity then the only viable alternative is a windows box.
That's how I took the post.
I could be wrong. Happened before.
 
Just don't try and complain when there is a better alternative out there. And if autocad is a necessity then the only viable alternative is a windows box.
Exactly, except the way I understood it he was saying there are no viable alternatives for Mac, that OS X isn't meant for CAD in the first place, and that everybody who calls themselves engineers should be using Windows.
 
But that's my point. If you need to use AutoCad, the Mac most definitely IS NOT the best tool for the job.

The problem is people get too hung up on the platform, even when it becomes a liability to getting their job done.

Comments like "I've been waiting a really long time for this particular piece of software to finally come to the Mac - guess I'll make do with those other, inferior program" just illustrates they don't take their job seriously.

Let me clarify (and don't take this as an attack, because I completely understand your point and don't particularly disagree, this was more of an observation of engineers, of which I know a large number).

The Mac is the best type of computer available, i.e. the best tool for computing (in many people's eyes).

AutoCAD is the best engineering software available, again in many people's eyes.

Thus, to an engineer, AutoCAD on the Mac is the best possible tool.

jW
 
Well members maybe this will be resolved in sp2, it seems to be running fine for me at this point and for 4 grand it had better.:apple:
 
I would just as soon use a paper and pencil, you should too if all you're going to write about is crap like this.

Obvious troll is obvious.

You couldn't tell a troll from a Vermicious Knid. :rolleyes:

It amazes me how the flipping fanboy patrol turns anyone, everyone and everything into "trolling" when the have no legs to stand on. It's like the politicians attacking the other candidate when they've lost the debate. It's pathetic.

The Mac is the best type of computer available, i.e. the best tool for computing (in many people's eyes).

AutoCAD is the best engineering software available, again in many people's eyes.

Thus, to an engineer, AutoCAD on the Mac is the best possible tool.

First off, a "Mac" is not a type of computer per se these days. It's really just an operating system since the change to Intel. Proof of this is that you can run Windows on a "Mac" so obviously, a "Mac" computer is really just a general purpose home computer now that is authorized to run the Mac OS by Apple.

Secondly, whether or not AutoCAD is the best possible tool for an engineer would depend on the type of engineer (your assumption lends the idea that there is only one type and that they even need CAD let alone AutoCAD). You also don't account for the usability of AutoCAD on the Macintosh operating system. In other words, a completely buggy version of AutoCAD won't do ANY engineer much good no matter how much they like the Mac.

Thus, the problem with adding 2+2 together with apples and bananas is that you don't get twice as many apples, you just get a fruit salad. :D

In any case, I've seen plenty of buggy software releases. iTunes 10.0 was a good example. It crashed at least once a day on my PPC based PowerMac. 10.0.1 is more stable than the last version of iTunes 9 here. It's fairly clear that not all Mac models behave the same even with the same software due to driver differences, CPU model differences, etc. Give them a chance to sort it out. Otherwise, don't buy it until it's stable. Besides, IMO these days buying one version license should give you access to the software on either available operating system. After all, you're licensed to use the software itself. The platform really shouldn't matter so long as you only use one machine at at time.
 
Picked up the student download the other day. Runs fine for my needs on my MacBookPro3,1. Couldn't have come at a better time either as I have a heap of technical drawings to produce this semester.

Hopefully this means we will start to see a larger range of autodesk applications moving to the mac platform too.
 
They're not going to have a mac version. They are working on the cloud version that was shown at SWW 10.

I saw that demo and I was very critical of it. Mechanical design data is some of the most confidential engineering data out there for many companies. I for one have had projects where implementations have been rejected for being "only cloud."

Many project require developers to know the exact physical location of where all confidential data is being stored. Many have stated they don't want to see their data stored overseas where there is no extradition making third party access to this data legal.

IMO cloud CAD products like this are DOA in many place due to confidentially issues.
 
The only reasons I can think that you would need this software would be for business (tax write off) or as a student in a field of study that uses the program. Given that Autodesk offer very generous free student licences for their programs, I think it is fair enough.
 
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