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Autodesk Brings Smoke to Mac for High-End Video Post-Production

moral-hazard said:
You might want to check some facts. My family owns three luxury cars. Here's a fun one: they require tons of maintenance and often have serious problems which leave you without a car for days at a time. BMW and Mercedes are plagued by electrical problems, among other things. Even though you pay the premium for the car and all the stupid features, the dealership usually can't figure out what's wrong. I've read alot of customer satisfaction surveys regarding this type of stuff; last time I checked, Lexus was the only luxury car that people were even remotely satisfied with in terms of maintenance. The reason? Probably because there cars are toyota's with leather seats, and most people are too dumb to notice.

P.S. - unless your BMW is an ///M or your merc is an AMG, it's a chick car. Enjoy the heated seats ;)
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And lets not forget "Lexus crash inspectors point to possible flaw in gas pedal Headline" One of the biggest car recalls going 3.8 million vehicles recalled across 7 models.
 
daxomni said:
Er, half the people I've seen with Macs are college students who would happily ride in anything with four wheels. Not to mention that "quality" isn't something I naturally associate with Apple products. In fact they're just about the most fragile hardware I've ever purchased. I've seen a Compaq notebook that was run over with a car and an HP notebook that fell off a roof and both still kept working just fine. Try that with anything from Apple.
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Last time I laughed from something this retarded, was watching Will Ferrel in Survivorman :D
 
Ka Ora! said:
And lets not forget "Lexus crash inspectors point to possible flaw in gas pedal Headline" One of the biggest car recalls going 3.8 million vehicles recalled across 7 models.
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I'm confused. Is this thread about software or cars?
 
Nicky G said:
One of my clients bought a Smoke within the past year or so, and I wanna say spent a few hundred K on JUST THAT ONE WORKSTATION.

The fact that I can put together a burly Mac Pro with lots of RAM, high-end gfx card, and some nice storage, and throw on a $15K piece of software, and now have a Smoke setup that can also run Final Cut Studio, Adobe Production Premium, and dozens of other useful audio, video, compositing, titling, fx, and transcoding tools?

This is a _very_ _big_ _deal_ in the post industry. You don't have to understand WHY that's the case, but it IS the case.

I can't exactly fault Autodesk and Adobe for not supporting 64-bit apps on Mac yet, either -- the software infrastructure has only been there in the OS for a VERY short time, and if memory serves, pretty much requires them to go full-cocoa for the apps. This does NOT happen quickly!!!
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A few hundred grand?
 
DaBrain said:
Wow! So cheap! I'll take 10!
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This is expensive but video software cost is sooo relative. Autodesk which makes smoke/inferno as well will charge you hundreds of thousands of dollars for those programs. Absurd, maybe, but they sell them and the companies that buy them make their money back so... yeah. Thing is you simply don't need them, as nice and powerful as they are. You can more or less do the same thing with say, Final Cut Studio and a few choice plugins but it's just not as streamlined, fast, etc. But, it's a small fraction of the $.
 
crpchristian said:
This is expensive but video software cost is sooo relative. Autodesk which makes smoke/inferno as well will charge you hundreds of thousands of dollars for those programs. Absurd, maybe, but they sell them and the companies that buy them make their money back so... yeah. Thing is you simply don't need them, as nice and powerful as they are. You can more or less do the same thing with say, Final Cut Studio and a few choice plugins but it's just not as streamlined, fast, etc. But, it's a small fraction of the $.
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***With a few choice pulgins?????***

Although speed is a BIG reason why these things are used in the post production industry, it isn't the only one. To suggest you can create the same result on Final Cut Studio as you can on say a Flame, just shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. I have worked on Flame/Inferno for the past 10-12 years, and also use Final Cut Studio at home, and not in a million years on some of the commercials/films I have worked on could you have used FCS to get the same result. Certainly not a result that an ad agency are going to be happy paying £100,000 for. People need to see the bigger picture here. Even if you bought a flame for £150,000 (which I agree is a lot) the cost is relative. The going rate card in London for one hour of Flame is near on £700/hour for clients to pay. Ten hour days x sometimes seven days a week on a two to three week job.....It's simple maths. Trust me, it does not take long to get that money back before you are making lots of it for yourself. Also, consider the client phoning up saying I'd like to book two hours of Smoke. They come in, the editor works with the client behind him, can produce things in real time, a lot of the time not having a clue what he will be doing until the client turns up, and be confident of the speed, and of the quality of the effects. I would not want to do a unkown two hour job sitting on FCS. Nor would the client. Which is why they pay the money.
 
Great thread.

1. Our designers and engineers run inventor and surfcam on xp pro installs via VMware on macbook pros.

2. Our architects run autocad and revit on the same.

3. My car of choice: 1989 Alfa Romeo. Miraculously as reliable as any car I've ever owned, and twice as much fun to drive. Most bang for the buck by far.

4. Our company cars: Toyotas & Hondas, each more made-in-usa than any chevy or "domestic brand".

5. Cars are tools. Computers are tools. If you let the sh*t you buy define you, it says first and foremost, that you have no character of your own, and that your life lacks substance.

6. Smokes boogie.
 
And when you want to author and proof a Blu-ray of your great creation for a client

Forgetaboutit. Not on Mac OS.

DUMBER than DUMB.

:apple:
 
i accept with information:already.
Actually, according to Consumer Reports, Honda and Toyota usually top their charts. I know, because I've been doing a ton of research lately on used cars since my wife's Volvo 850 Turbo is falling apart. I'm still in college and she recently graduated, so we don't have buckets of cash for cars. That's the reason the economy is in the shape it is today...people spending way more then they can afford. Could I afford to spend a few hundred more dollars for a Mac? You bet, especially since I'm a graphic design student
 
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