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Nine hundred bucks? And they wonder why people torrent their software :rolleyes:
Well it is mostly for businesses as it is professional software...

I doubt many people who torrent it would even buy it if it was $100 tbh.
 
Talk about a dent in the wallet.

I'm in mechanical engineering (going to senoir year) and have only had one class where we learned basics of autocad.
Any one have any idea if they teach more intense classes in my last year (I'm talking 3D modeling etc)? I would love to learn more advanced autocad.

You have not had classes dedicated to modeling? I know my school had us learn ProE and then Gambit/Fluent, some Solidworks, Mechanica, etc
 
$899 is cheap!!

I just checked Autodesk's website, and they're selling AutoCAD LT for $1,200.00 (for the Windows version.) So you're getting a deal if you get it through the App Store on a Mac. ;)
 
I would pay that much for Inventor. ...or Solidworks, etc...

But... Autocad??? The world should have abandoned Autocad a decade ago already.

Dassault Systems made Draftsight with a few employees in their spare time, and it's identical to acad, more stable, cleaner, and its free.
 
What are they constructing there in that screenshot? The death star???
Apple's new spaceship Headquarters of course. :D

Grr.I see someone beat me to it.

By the way, one nice thing with it being on the App Store is being able to legally install it on multiple computers, too bad they can't put the full version there.
 
Nine hundred bucks? And they wonder why people torrent their software :rolleyes:

Their yearly costs for programmers and managers on just this one app alone is well into the $millions.
This is no different than the massive prices for PhotoShop which is a simple paint program.


Purchasing anything on the internet whether it be amazon.com or the mac app store or even a physical store should be at least listed as "from the mac app store" although I still say "in" is what you are doing. Going "into" the store.

You go on to amazon.com and on to apple.com, you don't go into amazon.com... you would have to becomes electrons and do a 3d particle sweep into your monitor and over the internet lines to go into a web site... :p
 
yay! even with the price tag, it's a great start!

Cal Poly Pomona (engineering, science, and all other majors) salute you for this :rolleyes:
 
Nice to see that they are offering it on the MAS; however, those affiliated with a University can get the full version for free from their student website. So if you're a student or a faculty member, do obtain a free legal copy rather than shelling out a lot of cash.

First, it "depends" on what you mean by free. It's free if you want a watermark on printouts, a 3 year license, no upgrade path, etc... There are reasons why someone in the education world (i.e. student) would want a full-featured non-educational version.
 
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Navdakilla said:
Talk about a dent in the wallet.

I'm in mechanical engineering (going to senoir year) and have only had one class where we learned basics of autocad.
Any one have any idea if they teach more intense classes in my last year (I'm talking 3D modeling etc)? I would love to learn more advanced autocad.

It might help to identify the school here. In any event it has been far to long since school for me to answer that question. I will point out a couple of things though.

1. You will not likely learn everything you need to know about Auto CAD from college. I'd strongly advise a few AutoCAD specific training sessions after leaving school or even over the summer.

2. You may find out that you might not make use of AutoCAD at all after leaving school. It really depends upon many factors, some jobs don't require it for example. Further some places standardize on better software.

3. If you simply want to do engineering drawings on the Mac there are other solutions. Right now you can find Draftsite for free on the net.

4. Also if you just want to view drawings free CAD file viewers do a good job.

Ok 4 isn't a couple, however the points are still valid. The biggest problem I see with AutoCAD is that they are extremely proud of their software. $900 is a small fortune to pay for a cad package. Even worst AutoCAD outdates the software on a yearly basis.
 
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dona83 said:
I'm a bit stunned at the price. I don't use AutoCAD, and am feeling too lazy to google it, but does the Windows version cost that much?

The Windows version costs the same for the both the LT and full versions. AutoCAD MEP/Architectural costs $5,000, and Revit even more. Businesses typically buy these full versions up to Revit while a self employed designer may opt to go with LT, although the 3D capabilities in MEP/Revit/Architectural is amazing, not only can it design amazing 3D models that is also easy to print in 2D drawings required by the builders, it is also quicker to draft in 3D than in 2D.

AutoDesk probably doesn't mind the 30% cut since this is probably the same cut they give to their AutoDesk authorized resellers per license sold. These Autodesk resellers are relentless vultures like car salesmen but worse.

Relentless is right. I suspect a good portion of the sticker price of AutoCAD goes to support these guys and their yachts. It is a lot of money for what amounts to a mature product ( in this case we are talking AutoCAD LT ).

More so it is very expensive when you consider how a lot of Engineers use the software.
 
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lifeinhd said:
when you go to a physical store, you go "into" the store to purchase something. you go inside. you don't go "on" the store unless they are having a sale on the roof of the building. in that case it would be "on".

Purchasing anything on the internet whether it be amazon.com or the mac app store or even a physical store should be at least listed as "from the mac app store" although I still say "in" is what you are doing. Going "into" the store.

Agreed. It's like getting on a plane. In the words of George Carlin, "**** you, I'm getting in the plane."

You don't say "in the Internet" because the Internet is an abstract idea. A store, on the other hand, is tangible.

OK touch the Mac App Store.
 
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mdriftmeyer said:
Autodesk is still pricing like it's 1995. Sorry, but the pricing for all CAD/CAM/CAE Solid Modeling NURBS based solutions and FEA/FEM solutions are truly absurd.

By the time you take in the price of the Mac Pro Workstation [not the most expensive part in the equation], the Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro, never mind each respective company's Tesla and Firestream GPGPUs, adding the additional $3,995 for CAD and then probably another $20k for FEA/FEM like Ansys 13 Mechanical you have to wonder if they [CAD/CAM/FEA/CFD Corporations] really live in another world.

For basic 2&3D CAD it is a joke. Especially considering these are mature products. What is worst is that AutoCAD milks you for money every year.
 
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OK touch the Mac App Store.

Damn, that would make a fantastic movie. One guy and his epic quest across america to find the mac app store.... and poke it.
 
I'm in mechanical engineering (going to senoir year) and have only had one class where we learned basics of autocad.
Any one have any idea if they teach more intense classes in my last year (I'm talking 3D modeling etc)? I would love to learn more advanced autocad.

Engineering degrees from schools around here don't focus much on modeling either. I do notice MET degrees have a bit more classes in it, but the only degrees that get heavily involved in CAD are AA degrees in drafting/design.

I have used AutoCAD to do things such as determine buoyancy and center of gravity of a boat I designed in high school. IIRC, all AutoCAD did was export the dimensions into excel and the calculations were done in a very basic spreadsheet. Nothing compared to what I've done in even a basic statics class though. I can see how AutoCAD would be helpful to an engineer, but there is other software that is much better for engineering purposes than AutoCAD.

I think schools are more concerned with teaching the process of testing ideas and theory than they are with designing something, at least in straight up engineering programs.
 
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csiguy said:
Nine hundred bucks? And they wonder why people torrent their software :rolleyes:

Their yearly costs for programmers and managers on just this one app alone is well into the $millions.
This is no different than the massive prices for PhotoShop which is a simple paint program.


Purchasing anything on the internet whether it be amazon.com or the mac app store or even a physical store should be at least listed as "from the mac app store" although I still say "in" is what you are doing. Going "into" the store.

You go on to amazon.com and on to apple.com, you don't go into amazon.com... you would have to becomes electrons and do a 3d particle sweep into your monitor and over the internet lines to go into a web site... :p

I don't buy this at all! AUtoCAD LT is essentially a mature product, while a team might have been needed to port to the Mac maintenance of the product is virtually nothing.

Like it or not Drawing packages are mature technologies. As others have mentioned you can get Draftsite, a CAD package from a major company, for free. AutoCAD is far to focused on draining customers of free cash. That would t be so bad if they actually progressed the products in an aggressive manner but they don't. Instead they use the cash flow to build new products, so essentially you pay AutoCAD to design new software you might never use.

Some one previosly likened AutoCAD vendors to vulture and used car salesman. In a sense he was absolutely right. Oh and by the way I susPect that these guys take a bigger cut than Apple.
 
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OK touch the Mac App Store.

all the more reason i make my point which is factual and correct.
true, you can't touch the store but you can purchase an app from within the store. hello, I'm right on this.

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We must all be very stupid then

no. you are not stupid at all. most likely somebody at Apple started the "On" the store thing and now everybody thinks that is correct.
 
I'm a bit stunned at the price. I don't use AutoCAD, and am feeling too lazy to google it, but does the Windows version cost that much?

Don't know why your so surprised, the only people who use auto cad are professionals who work for companies or professionals who work for themselves.

it's not like photoshop were every man and his dog wants it for fun ( as well as pro's of course).

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For basic 2&3D CAD it is a joke. Especially considering these are mature products. What is worst is that AutoCAD milks you for money every year.

if it is a joke why does almost every engineering company use it? I don't find it a joke to be honest, I find it a good program for what it is intended to do.
 
I wonder if more money would be made at $99 for the company. For example, if you sold iPhoto for $499 you might get a few people to pay for it. But a ton of people will pay $15 bucks and overall sales will be higher.

You could ask the same question about industrial cement mixers. I'm not sure you'd sell a lot more of them if you cut the price 90%. But I'm quite sure you wouldn't make any more money.

Developing software like that costs a lot of money. There are only a limited number of people who need it. Hence, they pay a lot of money.
 
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