'AutoSleep 5' Brings Live Sleep Tracking to Apple Watch and iPhone X Support

Discussion in 'iOS Blog Discussion' started by MacRumors, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. Bryan Bowler macrumors 68040

    Sep 27, 2008
    What battery issue? The battery life that Apple squeezes out of the AW, based on today's technology, is nothing short of amazing.

    If you're an AW Power User that utilizes things that eat up battery life, just learn to charge your watch better. (Like when you're showering, brushing your teeth, etc.). It's very easy and not hard to do.
  2. lederermc macrumors 6502


    Sep 30, 2014
    So WHEN do you recharge your watch if not while you sleep?
  3. Hodar1 macrumors member


    Nov 30, 2011
    In the middle of the Rocky Mountains, for now.
    I wish these apps would include support for Sleep Number beds, and other beds that have sensors to track not only when you get into bed, but movements, pulse rate, and breaths per minute. I doubt that other "smart beds" do not track these traits; but the newer Sleep Number beds do.
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    Charging the watch is pretty simple, doesn't take much time. If you have a charger at work, you can charge it in an hour or so at work. If you have a charger in the car, you can charge it on your drive to work, and home. My Series 2 watch is usually charged in about an hour.
  4. jermwhl macrumors regular


    Sep 29, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    I throw mine on the charger when I jump in the shower. Usually an hour or less later and it's fully charged.
  5. Mad Mac Maniac macrumors 601

    Mad Mac Maniac

    Oct 4, 2007
    A little bit of here and a little bit of there.
    Thanks for the link. I'd heard they were coming out with a separate smart wake app in the near future. I'll definitely be buying this day 1.
  6. Bryan Bowler macrumors 68040

    Sep 27, 2008
    Just bought the app, thanks to this article. Much appreciated MacRumors!
  7. iLoveDeveloping macrumors 6502

    Sep 24, 2009
    Laughing at all the comments “but it only lasts 18 hours or less” “it only lasts 24 hours!!”

    Obviously they don’t have an Apple Watch or they only have the series 0 or 1. I used to say this too and 2 weeks ago I got the Apple Watch series 3 after using the series 0. I now get about 2.5 days of charge on it, this thing is insane!!! I love it, I have to charge my iPhone 6 twice before I even have to consider my Apple Watch. I can easily wear it to bed every night on a single charge every 3 days.

    So stop this battery nonsence, Apple Watch series 3 is a monster! Love it!! :)
  8. klemsaba macrumors newbie


    Dec 9, 2012
    It's just interesting data to look at once and awhile. If I see I woke up at 3am for some reason and I hear on the news later that we had an earthquake at 3am that's an interesting data point. I don't always look at the clock when I wake up. But you're right. Not sure how it helps me change my sleeping habits.
  9. mhoutman macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2016
    It is probably approved tomorrow :)
  10. dylanlive macrumors member

    Mar 7, 2012
    San Francisco, Calif.
    I love this app, but my wrist gets sore wearing the watch all day and night :(
  11. satinsilverem2 macrumors 6502a


    Nov 12, 2013
    Richmond, VA
    does this app work on the series 0? I know that the 1st gen watches are starting to be left behind in full too support ie. resting heart rate and so on.
  12. Volusia macrumors 6502


    Jun 8, 2016
    Central Florida
    I had previous versions of their app on my Series 0 and it worked. Haven't tried with the upgraded version (wife using the older one currently).
  13. Sheza macrumors 68000


    Aug 14, 2010
    Cambridge, UK
    Mostly I like to see how much of my 8 hours a night target I’ve reached for the past 7 days.

    But it’s also good to spot patterns where I’m going to bed later than I should on certain days of the week, so I can adjust and get a more even schedule.

    The best part about the app for me is that it’s conpletely automatic. Sure, the basic clock app has a sleep function where you can set 8 hours of sleep, but that relies on you to actually go to bed when you set it. And yes Sleeo Cycle wakes you up at a good time and I do miss that feature but it doesn’t require my phone to be constantly analysing motion / sound all night and you still have to set it going.

    With AutoSleep you don’t have to remember anything. Just go to sleep.
  14. ErikGrim macrumors 68040


    Jun 20, 2003
    Brisbane, Australia
    I was super happy with with my OG Apple Watch and did not plan to upgrade this year, but unfortunately it eventually developed water damage through a hairline crack. Repairs cost almost as much as a new watch, so I bit the bullet and upgraded to a SS S3.

    Turned out to be a blessing in disguise. While I don’t take advantage of LTE, the battery life and speed is an incredible upgrade. Sleep tracking is no issue at all. A short charge each morning while I do my morning routine is all it needs and I can wear it pretty much 24/7.
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    Very happy with this update. Switching between days and analysis is so much faster now (almost unusable before as data simply wouldn’t update at times). Still don’t understand why this data isn’t cached and there’s a reanalysis every time you switch days. All this data should be analysed and cached in the background to allow for instant data updates when you go back and forth between days.
  15. kgelner macrumors newbie

    Oct 28, 2003
    Denver, CO
    If you have the 0G watch (as I do) you need a new watch anyway. Things like this sleep tracker or the new heart rate study app, all require series one or higher.

    If you really want to stick with the watch you have you can always go to Apple and replace the battery for some small fee. I've been considering that, but my battery still lasts easily 16 hours in a day unless I do more than an hour of exercise tracking, then it's more like 12.
  16. mac4me macrumors newbie

    Oct 24, 2003
    Just bought it ($1.99 intro price) through that link. Release date listed as Dec 20.
  17. mhoutman macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2016
  18. iwayne macrumors 6502


    Oct 12, 2011
    Santa Clara, California
    I switch wrists before going to bed. Wear it on my right while sleeping.
  19. mhoutman macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2016
    You might like to try a Sport Loop in bed; very comfortable and probably breathing :)
  20. Mad Mac Maniac macrumors 601

    Mad Mac Maniac

    Oct 4, 2007
    A little bit of here and a little bit of there.
    and it was, and I bought it
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    Actually the rubbery sport loops are they ones that tend to cause the irritation for me (also these are the bands I sometimes where for weeks at a time). However what I've started doing is rotating bands and that helps a lot. Even swapping out different rubbery sport bands seems to help. I've gotten several of bands on Amazon (usually for like $5 each).
  21. mhoutman macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2016
    I am talking about the Sport Loop, not the Sport Band. Latter are made of rubber while former from webbing :)
  22. JackieInCo Suspended

    Jul 18, 2013
    I'm getting about two days of use out of one charge.

    I like the new AutoSleep app. My watch informed me of how much sleep I got today where before, the iPhone would inform me and not the watch. I've been using AutoSleep since March and have always enjoyed using it.
  23. jtara, Dec 21, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2017

    jtara macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2009
    So, I decided to try this app. It just isn't a good fit for me.

    Thing is, I wear my Apple Watch mainly as a watch. I work from home, and put the watch on when I go somewhere, and take it off and put it on the charger when I get back home. I'm just mildly curious about how my sleep is, so figured I'd give it a go for a few days and see what it reveals.

    The original concept of the app is just daft. I suppose, though, they had to do something to distinguish from all the other sleep-related apps, and so they latched on to "auto". To no surprise, they evidently found that wearing/no wearing watch moving/not moving phone is a horrible indicator of sleep times.

    I realize the whole point is to avoid having to open and app and push a button. But... why not ALSO include the button?!

    I downloaded the app, then forgot about it for a couple of days. (Frankly, I fell asleep forgetting to put my watch on!)

    First UI gaff I noticed - I have no idea how I might completely delete a day's record. I have a couple of days of completely meaningless data now. One day I "slept" 13 hours, and another one 20.

    The UI in general is busy, overly-bright, and confusing, IMO.

    I tried the app for one night, and it doesn't tell me much of use. I got ONE heart rate reading - when I woke up and unlocked the phone, I guess. Maybe it is that I had background refresh off on my phone globally, but I don't think communicating with the watch has anything to do with background refresh? I will try again tonight with background refresh off.

    It has some representation of some time with "lowered heart rate" but for the life of me can't find an actual number, if it even recorded it. But how does it know "lowered heart rate" if it doesn't have numbers? Maybe just an assumption based on an assumption - it assumes I was sleeping so assumes I had a lowered heart rate?

    I did find the setting to tell the app I don't want to use watch on/off charge and phone activity to detect sleep.

    I also have some interest in this, because I did some work a while back toward developing an app to help detect sleep apnea symptoms. Alas, we had to abandon the project due to liability concerns after the Samsung battery disaster: the app required you sleep with an iPhone strapped to your stomach. (We used a "sports wallet" thin-fanny-pack-type thingie). No way I wanted to be responsible for somebody's bed going up in flames! The only practical approach is with a small/safe wearable like a watch. (OK, let's HOPE safe! Any watch-catching-on-fire stories?)

    (I notice AutoSleep publisher has some advice on settings "if you sleep with your phone in your bed". IMO, the advice should not be to change the app settings... the advice should be: DON'T!)
  24. 4jasontv macrumors 65816

    Jul 31, 2011
    Real question. If all of you claim 2 to 4 days battery life out of this device, why does Apple say it's less than a day? This is far less than a simple underpromise overdeliver. I believe if it's synced with bluetooth to an iPhone that it can get more than 24 hours, but if I have to pay a service fee each month, then it should run off LTE 24 hours a day. I don't believe that with LTE and GPS turned on it lasts more than 24 hours. Minimum usage puts it at least 15 minutes of calls and 100 email and text a day, two hours of streaming audio/video and 30 minutes of GPS navigation.

    I just don't believe it lasts 24+ hours when used off bluetooth, and neither does Apple.
  25. jtara macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2009
    Given up on this worthless app.

    I corrected the setting on my iPhone for background updates, didn't change anything.

    It doesn't seem to retrieve/collect ANY heartbeat data while I sleep. I get a single reading when I wake up. Of what use is that for tracking sleep?

    Chart on day/edit shows "lower heartrate" color for an hour after going to bed, and gray afterward. No numbers - but I don't know where to look for them if they might be there.

    Waste of money. At least it was relatively inexpensive.

    Are there issues with Apple Watch 1?

    As far as battery life, it used very little overnight. I think like 15%. Only time I've ever noticed a lot of battery drain was when I first got the watch, and started a workout and went for a several-hours walk without workout power saving mode. You can easily drain it that way. That green LED is apparently power-hungry.

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