Exactly. In everyday usage, for the vast majority of people, it makes absolutely no difference. It matters to people trying to get views for their YouTube videos.
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Avoiding the M2 Mini slow SSD's - what to do
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Ok thanks nothing too worry about then for me ill just enjoy it when it arrives.
I would,
seems to me many humans and professionals are typing negative things
on line about to get a reaction or just to take down #1.
I never had an ounce of a slowdown or spinning ball since October when I unboxed the minimalist of MacBooks
the M1
imagine an m2?
I have the M1 512GB mini. it is about the same R/W as your M2 Pro. I don't know why you think the 512GB in the M1 mini has 4 NANDs?
I was comparing it against the previous generation Mac that was also equipped with a pro CPU. Since there's no M1 Pro Mac mini, I had to compare it with an M1 Pro MacBook Pro. And my logic is that the M2 Pro Mac mini is intended to fill this gap--a mid-range desktop Mac that has similar specs to a base model MacBook Pro but cheaper.
The video below compares the 16" M1 Pro 16gb/512gb to the 16" M2 Pro 16gb/512gb. The M2 Pro 512gb SSD is half the speed of the M1 Pro SSD. This is the result when a browser with a few tabs was open and Lightroom Classic running (only those 2 programs open). This resulted in some swapping on both so the M1 Pro with an SSD that was much faster beat the M2 Pro. I suspect the M2 Mini 512gb SSD is the same.
Here is the video:
Here is the video:
Good to know Apple's extortionate upgrade prices are an even bigger rip-off since it makes no difference.
Or maybe people have a valid point about Apple halving a major performance-limiting parameter without mentioning a word in the interest of saving a nickel.
Seems to me that some users buying a MacBook won't bat an eye over-spending of that extra 512GB.Good to know Apple's extortionate upgrade prices are an even bigger rip-off since it makes no difference.
Or maybe people have a valid point about Apple halving a major performance-limiting parameter without mentioning a word in the interest of saving a nickel.
since Apple knows this, they wont lower the SSD size price upgrade any time soon!
So, when purchasing the M2 Mac mini Pro the best configuration would be the 1TB SSD rather than the 512?
Doubles the SS speeds to 6000 versus 3000 on the 512? Will you notice a difference using logic pro with no more than a dozen tracks?
So, when purchasing the M2 Mac mini Pro the best configuration would be the 1TB SSD rather than the 512?
Doubles the SS speeds to 6000 versus 3000 on the 512?
But, Will you notice a difference in regular use, or when using logic Pro, with no more than 12 tracks?
Doubles the SS speeds to 6000 versus 3000 on the 512?
But, Will you notice a difference in regular use, or when using logic Pro, with no more than 12 tracks?
Music probably suffers the least out of professional work, since your projects when working actively are timed, unlike photo or video these just pull out GBs of data all at once. But you will likely see a slight difference in export time for instance which isn't on a 1:1 timing.
I don't want to start anything now🙂
I know that the average person won't notice any difference in read/write speed with average tasks, and the professionals would choose M2 Pro maxed out.
So no one would actually know the difference, without using Black Magic program.
But what I don't understand is why Apple choose to lower the performance compared to the previous model?
In my book, the only reason is greed💰😊
I know that the average person won't notice any difference in read/write speed with average tasks, and the professionals would choose M2 Pro maxed out.
So no one would actually know the difference, without using Black Magic program.
But what I don't understand is why Apple choose to lower the performance compared to the previous model?
In my book, the only reason is greed💰😊
I have the base model with 16 gb. I am not perceiving any slow down. That might change when file accumulation happens over time but I do NOT regret not giving Apple more of my money over this non-problem. I also own a M1 MacBook Pro 16".
The M2 mini board only has space for 2 NANDs. So 2TB will have the same speed as 1TB.
I really wish people would stop saying "greed". Every single corporation in a capitalist society maximizes their profits. EVERY....SINGLE....ONE of them. So EVERY company is "greedy". Why is this so shocking to some people? If you were a computer manufacturer and dealing with everything going on in the world right now, and have statistics on who buys the base and one step up variety of these systems and knows they don't need this absurd SSD performance. You too would do the same thing. Nearly every big tech company let go a significant part of their work force, but Apple did not.
Also, the chase for speeds in SSDs is why we will see very VERY soon, SSDs require their own heat sinks and fans. Yes its been reported that we might end up seeing fans on SSDs.
We don't know why Apple did it. Even if it was to improve their profits...so what? Nobody at the base spec would notice anyway. M2 runs hotter, SSDs are getting way too hot as it is, my enclosures get WAY TOO HOT to the touch after long operations, and that is just at 1,000 MB/s speeds!
Agreed, I don't believe "corporate greed" should be thrown out every time people don't get what they want at the price they want it.
What was M1 Pro configuration? and were the 15 chrome tabs same on both laptops. What you mean by 17% faster? What are the absolute numbers in terms of seconds. A user is not gonna notice difference between 1 sec and 1.1 sec.
In his M2 tests he filled the 256 GB SSD to 98% full and claimed the slowdown was because of the sequential write speed slowdown. Complete nonsense of course. The slowdown was almost certainly because the disk was nearly full and SSDs have a terrible time in those conditions. I wouldn't be surprised if he did something similar on this test too.
I don't think people realize how fast 1500MB/s is. It's still pretty damn fast.
For most purposes it will be fine. Since even the fastest Thunderbolt 3 SSDs aren't much faster than the sequential read/write of the 256 GB SSD on the M2 Mac mini there are few occasions where you are going to notice.
This thread is about how to avoid the slower SSDs which are different between the M2 Mac mini and the M2 Pro Mac mini.
Upgrading SSD for swapping is one of the dumbest suggestion I have seen by these clickbait YouTubers. If you need that much RAM, get more RAM and avoid swapping.