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Would it do to call the store and speak with the manager on duty? Explain the situation, and demand your refund. Make sure you speak with the Store manager. No driving should be involved, and the call could get you back your $200.

If the yahoo you spoke with was the manager (doubtful), then call applecare and get some satisfaction.
 
Did you have more than one user on the computer? Also, did you have fast user switching enabled?

I ask because OS X has this weird bug where the custom color calibrations go crazy when you switch between users with different color profiles.


It drove me crazy trying to figure out what was going on.
Apple has yet to fix that [In Tiger, at least.]
 
Did you have more than one user on the computer? Also, did you have fast user switching enabled?

No and no. They asked me about that though, so I guess they're aware of a problem.

I'm going to go back tomorrow I guess and try to accomplish something. Why does this have to be so ****ing complicated.
 
To make for a more interesting forum!

No one wants to read, "I went to the Apple store, they smiled, I bought a cover for my iPod and got some change." ;)

Totally. Need more of those threads =D

No and no. They asked me about that though, so I guess they're aware of a problem.

I'm going to go back tomorrow I guess and try to accomplish something. Why does this have to be so ****ing complicated.

Well, I would be upset too. Could always camp out infront of the store till you get your refund, or the media comes along ;)
 
Apple did right-ish by me and refunded the difference, but it took more then an hour. Not that they didn't want to, they couldn't figure out how to make the machine give back free money! They started the process about 3 minutes after I got thee but I was in the store for more then an hour.
 
I used to work for a National Apple reseller in Canada. There were 35 stores. Apple is very picky on taking back defective product. 99% of the time, unless it was completely DOA, Apple wouldn't do anything for us except maybe refurbish it. At one point we had $1,000,000 in DOA Mac Inventory, that we had to sell as refurbs, and took a huge loss on. At the end of it, we couldn't replace a computer for a customer unless Apple directly told us to, so we could cover our ass. This is probably why a lot of stores are being a little harder to deal with. I mean, if it was an obvious DOA and was within the DOA time period (like, won't turn on, screen doesn't work, dead hard drive), we could replace it but if it was like 5 days past the normal alloted DOA period, we would normally have to repair the computer, unless Apple said otherwise..
 
The lesson I learnt is not to shop at the Apple Store again. Their return policies are completely out of whack.

Next time I buy a Mac it will probably be online ( I find them being a bit more reasonable) or form an authorized reseller. I don't like dealing with that store.

Eh? I was expecting to buy my mac at my local Apple Store, specifically because I HATE buying things online, and not to mention I noticed one time I was in the Apple Store looking, everything was quite a bit cheaper than in the online store. Might have been previous generation models or something, but you never know..

Would you really strongly recommend against dealing with say, Newegg over the(physical) Apple Store?
 
Couple thoughts on this...

If a computer has a physical defect, the industry-standard first option to ensure it isn't something stupid is to do a nuke-n-pave. If the problem persists beyond that, then clearly it IS some kind of hardware problem and should be treated as such. However, having worked in the tech industry in a support capacity, my reaction, depending on my ability to see that you had, in fact, *just* bought the computer would be to be sympathetic to your cause and assume a higher likelihood that it was an OOB failure.

Clearly, the way you were handled was inappropriate and incorrect. Sadly, many people who work in this kind of position (which is a cross-roads between a retail job and a computer tech job) lack the necessary skills, judgement and/or mentality to handle people correctly.

Ok, I've done my best impression of "Archangel" from Airwolf -- I've started off nice -- but as much as I have issues with how this guy at Apple treated you, I also have issues with what you've said.

You don't honestly expect to impress any of the rest of us with your out-and-out threat to leave the Apple camp for the security liability that is the Windows platform, do you? I mean, come on! Yeah, sure, this guy was a dick, but you're going to use that as some kind of "excuse" to go run an OS platform with all the negative baggage that Windows has, as though putting up with viruses, spyware, malware in general, registry issues, and general overall bad design is somehow... the better option? Give me a break. At least you could have said "I'm tired of how corporations such as Apple treat me, so screw it, I'm buying a DIY blank notebook and setting it up with Linux.", or take some kind of other moral/ethical high ground, but Windows?!?
 
Where did I threaten leaving apple? I just returned the broken computer.

Well, in your first post you insinuated it... "So, Apple's lost my business for the time being. I've still got a bunch of apple stuff but I don't really appreciate this crap. ...I'm buying the new XPS M1330 to replace my latest pro."

Sounded like you decided to buy a Dell and hang up your Apple cap for a good while. Later you said you were returning it.
 
So no M1330? Shame. You missed out. It's excellent.

I bought a Sony SZ650 in the meantime (excellent little guy), but I'm still looking at the M1330.

How did you get "threatening to leave apple" from returning a broken computer? Quit the apple apologist front, guys. I've still got apple computers.
 
Good choice - although since I set up most of my own computers I've gone off Sony a little due to the sheer volume of Crapware that accompanies their stuff. But the quality and feel is impeccable on their top-end stuff: levels that Apple cannot match.

I went for the Dells to replace my SZ4. I'm sticking with Sony for the uber-portables but the M1330 is a workmanlike alternative to the SZ.

The Dell is less ambitious. General build quality is on a par with a Macbook Pro, but with better engineering. The MBP-like build quality does mean that it can still sometimes have issues. Fortunately though, XPS support is a lot better than Applecare if you don't feel the urge to drag yourself to an Apple temple. One of mine had a cosmetic issue and a slightly ropey keyboard on delivery: They cross-shipped a new unit.
 
If you have any problems with apple email Mr Jobs. I emailed these two addresses (it took me a long time to find them, one of them is his official email address because I got a reply) and it worked for me. stevejobs@apple.com, jobs@apple.com. The next day a top european manager rang my phone and helped me with my problem! I don't ring customer service any more, I ring this guy.
 
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