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PSA: You do not own digital copies of movies you "purchase" on any of the streaming services. Always buy the disc if you care about ownership.

It is not an apple issues. Technically any of the services could lose any movie at any time.
You still don't own the movie on a disc
 
You still don't own the movie on a disc

explain that to me? And I don't want to hear all of these technical, "the studio owns the movie" crap. They would have to physically steal it from my house.

If that is the route you are taking, you know that is way different than digital "ownership"
 
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You still don't own the movie on a disc

As long as you can play a disc based movie 'offline' then there's nothing that can be done, short of physically destroying the disc, to prevent you from continuing to watch the movie despite any shift in change of rights.

eBooks protected by DRM suffer the same fate - there's been historical cases where people loose access to the books they had 'purchased'.

Me personally - I stream the movies I'd like to see once or twice - long termers I commit to grabbing on DVD or BluRay.
 
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explain that to me? And I don't want to hear all of these technical, "the studio owns the movie" crap. They would have to physically steal it from my house.

If that is the route you are taking, you know that is way different than digital "ownership"
Lol. Cause you know it's true. You own the Blu ray disc or DVD. You bought the physical media the product came on. Doesn't give you the legal permission to rip the movie onto your computer though and distribute it even for free. Just more of telling you the misconception that you think you own the movie even on a disc. It's the same concept as buying it digitally but the difference is that it's already backed up on a disc for you.
 
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As long as you can play a disc based movie 'offline' then there's nothing that can be done, short of physically destroying the disc, to prevent you from continuing to watch the movie despite any shift in change of rights.

eBooks protected by DRM suffer the same fate - there's been historical cases where people loose access to the books they had 'purchased'.

Me personally - I stream the movies I'd like to see once or twice - long termers I commit to grabbing on DVD or BluRay.
There is legal ways to stop you from doing anything thats resembles you distributing the movie though. You still own the lisence to watch said film with it basically being backed up already for you on a disc.


Personally I buy discs cause 4k content and in general physical content is better then streaming.
 
Lol. Cause you know it's true. You own the Blu ray disc or DVD. You bought the physical media the product came on. Doesn't give you the legal permission to rip the movie onto your computer though and distribute it even for free. Just more of telling you the misconception that you think you own the movie even on a disc. It's the same concept as buying it digitally but the difference is that it's already backed up on a disc for you.

I agree with what you are saying, but you cannot argue that buying the disc is the way to go for numbers reasons. 1) you do get a digital copy in most circumstance and 2) if the digital copy goes away, you still technically have the disc backup.

edit: I see you basically said the same thing right above my comment :D
 
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I agree with what you are saying, but you cannot argue that buying the disc is the way to go for numbers reasons. 1) you do get a digital copy in most circumstance and 2) if the digital copy goes away, you still technically have the disc backup.

edit: I see you basically said the same thing right above my comment :D
Oh I agree discs is the way to go but I usually end up digital since its convenient and I don't particularly like the Ui of the xbox one X disc app. The xbox one is also the only reasonable 4k Blu ray player out there at least when I looked into a dedicated one. Just a lot of people still think they actually "own" the movie when they don't. You pretty much don't own any electronics lol. You just own the hardware these days.
 
Oh I agree discs is the way to go but I usually end up digital since its convenient and I don't particularly like the Ui of the xbox one X disc app. The xbox one is also the only reasonable 4k Blu ray player out there at least when I looked into a dedicated one. Just a lot of people still think they actually "own" the movie when they don't. You pretty much don't own any electronics lol. You just own the hardware these days.

Do you mean from a price standpoint? I have an Oppo 203, which was really expensive but works amazingly well. It loads disc incredibly fast.

The prices have really started to fall compared to when they first launched (expect the Oppo). I would probably go Xbox if I didn't have my current player.
 
explain that to me? And I don't want to hear all of these technical, "the studio owns the movie" crap. They would have to physically steal it from my house.

If that is the route you are taking, you know that is way different than digital "ownership"

Whilst you guys are talking disc and mentioned very old fashioned DVDs, did you know that for us guys outside of the US, our DVDs play at 4% speed increase? How the heck is that acceptable? Have you tried listening to a song or even a voice at 4%? (25fps instead of 24Fps) It sounds nothing like the original.
There's no way in hell that DVDs should be on sale outside of the US when you realise this flaw!
 
Whilst you guys are talking disc and mentioned very old fashioned DVDs, did you know that for us guys outside of the US, our DVDs play at 4% speed increase? How the heck is that acceptable? Have you tried listening to a song or even a voice at 4%? (25fps instead of 24Fps) It sounds nothing like the original.
There's no way in hell that DVDs should be on sale outside of the US when you realise this flaw!

Blame your guys’ decision to use the PAL format. Also, how would you expect to convert 24 FPS to the 25 FPS you guys use? The least common multiple of 24 and 25 is 600, so you’d need a screen that can refresh at 600 Hz (which doesn’t exist) to do a pull down that wouldn’t either add judder or change the playback speed.
 
Blame your guys’ decision to use the PAL format. Also, how would you expect to convert 24 FPS to the 25 FPS you guys use? The least common multiple of 24 and 25 is 600, so you’d need a screen that can refresh at 600 Hz (which doesn’t exist) to do a pull down that wouldn’t either add judder or change the playback speed.

Well... that’s ironic (you hailing from the US and bagging PAL for judder problems). Because it’s NTSC systems that introduce judder when playing back DVD films.

Many movie enthusiasts prefer PAL over NTSC despite the former's speed-up, because the latter results in telecine judder, a visual distortion not present in PAL sped-up video.[4] states "the majority of authorities on the subject favour PAL over NTSC for DVD playback quality".

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/576i
 
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Well... that’s ironic (you hailing from the US and bagging PAL for judder problems). Because it’s NTSC systems that introduce judder when playing back DVD films.



Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/576i

So what you’re saying is that no system is perfect? Also, I didn’t say anything about PAL causing judder because it doesn’t, precisely because the solution is to speed the content up instead. I’m not here to defend NTSC either, just pointing out why the content is sped up overseas. In any case, telecine judder is no longer a problem with 120 Hz refresh panels, which I and many others have except for those who prefer low-end TVs. The PAL speed issue still exists though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Do you mean from a price standpoint? I have an Oppo 203, which was really expensive but works amazingly well. It loads disc incredibly fast.

The prices have really started to fall compared to when they first launched (expect the Oppo). I would probably go Xbox if I didn't have my current player.
From a value standpoint and price . I'm not spending that much money for s dedicated blu ray player . At least my Xbox also plays games .
 
considering how quickly physical formats go out of date , i'm more than happy with itunes

got my first movie over 10 years ago , now i can play it in 4k

beat that dvd !!
 
considering how quickly physical formats go out of date , i'm more than happy with itunes

got my first movie over 10 years ago , now i can play it in 4k

beat that dvd !!

I will look for the article, but 4K blu-ray has significantly outperformed standard blu-ray over the same period of time compared to when blu-ray first launched.

Obviously numbers are overall way down because of streaming, but there is still a strong market for disc.
 
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