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cibonak

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" - New MacBook Pro Has Better Keyboard Than 12-Inch MacBook, But It's Expensive and Lacking Ports
- New MacBook Pros Max Out at 16GB RAM Due to Battery Life Concerns
- Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business
- New MacBook Pros Don't Include Backlit Apple Logo or Power Extension Cable
- Thunderbolt 3 Ports on Right Side of 13-Inch MacBook Pro Have Reduced PCI Express Bandwidth
- Apple Continues to Sell Base Model 2015 MacBook Pros at Same Price Points (ty @Pentium)

When will the bad news stop? :eek: "

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BUT...if you have a mac, you get to watch further mac keynotes and still get excited. I will miss Craig Federini when I switch to windows. Hair force one. What a great guy
 
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ardchoille50

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cibonak said:
" - New MacBook Pro Has Better Keyboard Than 12-Inch MacBook, But It's Expensive and Lacking Ports
- New MacBook Pros Max Out at 16GB RAM Due to Battery Life Concerns
- Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business
- New MacBook Pros Don't Include Backlit Apple Logo or Power Extension Cable
- Thunderbolt 3 Ports on Right Side of 13-Inch MacBook Pro Have Reduced PCI Express Bandwidth
- Apple Continues to Sell Base Model 2015 MacBook Pros at Same Price Points (ty @Pentium)

When will the bad news stop? :eek: "

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Bad news always stops when we change our perspective.
 
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Ghost31 said:
BUT...if you have a mac, you get to watch further mac keynotes and still get excited. I will miss Craig Federini when I switch to windows. Hair force one. What a great guy
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You mean Craig Federighi? Craig is the best part of the keynotes indeed. He Appears very genuine and is legitimately funny.
 
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terminator-jq

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Yaemon said:
To be honest it's mostly about the price, that is generating all the frustration that fuels most of those critics. To be clear, some of them are also good points, but at the end of the day it's the price.
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Exactly! I'm glad someone is saying this besides me. The new design is fantastic (I'm glad Apple didn't go too thin and sacrifice performance), the Touchbar definitely has potential, from what I've read the screen is apparently beautiful, the Trackpad is massive (which I'm sure will allow for more gestures) and the performance is not too bad at all. All in all, the new MacBooks are a good upgrade.

Really the only big issue is the price. If Apple would have priced the 13" with the Touchbar at $1499 instead of $1799 this forum wouldn't be filled with angry post.

Apple products are always expensive but in the past, they have at least had some amount of value. At $1799 for a BASE 13" with Touchbar, most of us are finding it hard to justify the price. At that price, the Razer 14, Razer Stealth, or an upgraded 2015 MacBook Pro seem like better alternatives. Of course, at the end of the day, I'll probably end up paying that crazy price because:

1. I don't want to deal with Windows

2. As an iOS developer, I need a Mac
 
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Tenashus1

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terminator-jq said:
Exactly! I'm glad someone is saying this besides me. The new design is fantastic (I'm glad Apple didn't go too thin and sacrifice performance), the Touchbar definitely has potential, from what I've read the screen is apparently beautiful, the Trackpad is massive (which I'm sure will allow for more gestures) and the performance is not too bad at all. All in all, the new MacBooks are a good upgrade.

Really the only big issue is the price. If Apple would have priced the 13" with the Touchbar at $1499 instead of $1799 this forum wouldn't be filled with angry post.

Apple products are always expensive but in the past, they have at least had some amount of value. At $1799 for a BASE 13" with Touchbar, most of us are finding it hard to justify the price. At that price, the Razer 14, Razer Stealth, or an upgraded 2015 MacBook Pro seem like better alternatives. Of course, at the end of the day, I'll probably end up paying that crazy price because:

1. I don't want to deal with Windows

2. As an iOS developer, I need a Mac
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I agree. At $1499 Apple would be flooded with orders and volume sales. I bought a 2015 13" last year, and because I was unable to replace the SSD myself anymore, I felt I needed to buy Apple care in case the SSD somehow went bad. For me, that's $200 added to $1799 plus tax and all the dongle dollars as well. Pretty rich for my tastes. $1499 would have been good, and it would have been right -even with a small profit hit for Apple at the outset. Keeping customers happy + goodwill = smart business practice.
 
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Altis

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HellasLEAF said:
Most reviews are very very positive. Price being the only real negative.
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Most of the early reviews are based on the design, screen, and build quality... all of which are top notch as we've come to know and love.

Price, as well as the lack of even a single USB-A port or SD card reader, max 16 GB of RAM, and underwhelming dedicated graphics (at that price) are enough to really put people off actually buying one.

But yes, price is certainly the single biggest issue.
 
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Altis said:
Most of the early reviews are based on the design, screen, and build quality... all of which are top notch as we've come to know and love.

Price, as well as the lack of even a single USB-A port or SD card reader, max 16 GB of RAM, and underwhelming dedicated graphics (at that price) are enough to really put people off actually buying one.

But yes, price is certainly the single biggest issue.
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There are some justifiable beefs.

I hate to say this, cause feels like I always say this, but maybe the 2.0 will be the one to really get. Or wait until 2.0 to grab 1.0 when the dust has settled.

1st gen like anything always expensive and always a bit jarring with the changes.
 
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photoz

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no 32GB RAM... c'mon what in the royal ****.
Lots of devs have to run VMs... we need more RAM!
 
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haydn!

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Yaemon said:
To be honest it's mostly about the price, that is generating all the frustration that fuels most of those critics. To be clear, some of them are also good points, but at the end of the day it's the price.
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As a bit of a critic. I agree.

If Apple hadn't of increased prices, I would be in a pre-order queue right now. If it was just the 20% for currency, it would have been bitter, but understandable, but the increases for the sake of increases are just a little harder to stomach. Then again, the 15" base now comes with integrated graphics, by Apple standards that alone adds $1-150 so really... are even the prices for the 15" model 'unfair'?
 
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mjs402

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Ghost31 said:
BUT...if you have a mac, you get to watch further mac keynotes and still get excited. I will miss Craig Federini when I switch to windows. Hair force one. What a great guy
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You do realize you could watch it in Windows 10 right? It says so right in the footnotes.
 
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