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Bad News Regarding Wi-Fi only Connectivity!!!

30 ft. is awfully short and even less if going through a wall. 🙁

Someday with Watch ver. 9 or so you won't need an iPhone at all!! 🙄
 
twisted-pixel said:
this is exactly what I understood also
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Yeah, I'm trying to re-watch it an find that point. It sounded like you could use everything over the same wi-fi network. I don't see why you'd need Bluetooth. My Mac gets calls from my iPhone and I didn't set up the Bluetooth. I thought it was happening over wi-fi 🙁
 
You guys don't see his join date

I can make phone calls on my iPad with Bluetooth off on both iPad and iPhone
The watch will be the same
 
This is what he's probably read in the online Apple Watch User Guide:

Apple Watch uses Bluetooth® wireless technology to connect to its paired iPhone and uses the iPhone for many wireless functions. Apple Watch can’t configure new Wi-Fi networks on its own, but it can connect to Wi-Fi networks you’ve set up on the paired iPhone.

If your Apple Watch and iPhone are on the same network but aren’t connected by Bluetooth, you can also do the following on Apple Watch without iPhone:

Send and receive messages using iMessage

Send and receive Digital Touch messages

Use Siri

User guide can be found here:

http://help.apple.com/watch/#/apd0443fb403
 
I'm sure you can still read email. The user guide left a bunch of little things out. You'll see tomorrow.
 
I was also under the impression that the same wifi network would mean phone calls could be answered on the watch. Bluetooth has complete **** range. Not all of us live in a 1 bedroom apartment. We have homes with a yard and were hoping to have more functionality without having to carry around the phone.

That being said, where is the manual the OP refers to?
 
"How far away can I be from my iPhone before it disconnects?

Traditional Bluetooth range is around 30-50 feet, but your Apple Watch has an advantage if your phone is connected to Wi-Fi. When you connect to a Wi-Fi network, your Watch will remain in contact with your phone anywhere in the building where you're covered by that network. For example, you can be upstairs in your bedroom and take a call while your phone is downstairs on the couch."

http://www.imore.com/apple-watch-faq#pairing
 
NotSafeForWork said:
"How far away can I be from my iPhone before it disconnects?

Traditional Bluetooth range is around 30-50 feet, but your Apple Watch has an advantage if your phone is connected to Wi-Fi. When you connect to a Wi-Fi network, your Watch will remain in contact with your phone anywhere in the building where you're covered by that network. For example, you can be upstairs in your bedroom and take a call while your phone is downstairs on the couch."

http://www.imore.com/apple-watch-faq#pairing
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You're quoting imore.com, which contradicts the actual manual from apple:
http://help.apple.com/watch/#/apd0443fb403
 
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/04/16/apple-watch-13-things-i-learned/

"As long as your Apple Watch and iPhone are on the same WiFi network you can get messages and phone calls on the watch even if you are out of Bluetooth range. I could not test the call quality of this, but it is handy for those times when I walk around my house and my iPhone is charging. WiFi reaches farther with better consistency than Bluetooth."

Not saying they're right or wrong, just we're hearing contradictory information on this.
 
It's kinda well known that the watch depends on having the phone in close proximity to be fully functional. It even seems that some apps need to be loaded from the phone rather than the resident storage of the watch (hence the lag when opening some apps).
The main benefit of the watch is that you don't have to keep pulling your phone out of your pocket/purse to check incoming mail and messages and calls... but you still need to carry your phone with you!
 
atiffarooq said:
This is what he's probably read in the online Apple Watch User Guide:

Apple Watch uses Bluetooth® wireless technology to connect to its paired iPhone and uses the iPhone for many wireless functions. Apple Watch can’t configure new Wi-Fi networks on its own, but it can connect to Wi-Fi networks you’ve set up on the paired iPhone.

If your Apple Watch and iPhone are on the same network but aren’t connected by Bluetooth, you can also do the following on Apple Watch without iPhone:

Send and receive messages using iMessage

Send and receive Digital Touch messages

Use Siri

User guide can be found here:

http://help.apple.com/watch/#/apd0443fb403
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I think the key word in the above is ALSO!
 
NotSafeForWork said:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/04/16/apple-watch-13-things-i-learned/

"As long as your Apple Watch and iPhone are on the same WiFi network you can get messages and phone calls on the watch even if you are out of Bluetooth range. I could not test the call quality of this, but it is handy for those times when I walk around my house and my iPhone is charging. WiFi reaches farther with better consistency than Bluetooth."

Not saying they're right or wrong, just we're hearing contradictory information on this.
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I hope this is right.

I always leave my iPhone in the locker when working out -- it is safer there than on the gym floor with me. But I miss calls and notifications.

A key justification for buying Apple Watch, for me, is to be able to receive and reply to those calls and notifications during the workout.

The gym has free WiFi. But the gym is too large for Bluetooth's tiny range.
 
jannette said:
I think the key word in the above is ALSO!
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That ALSO, comes after this:

Although you need an iPhone to do most things with Apple Watch, you can still do several things with Apple Watch without having an iPhone in range.

Play music from a synced playlist on Apple Watch

Use the watch, alarms, timers, and the stopwatch

Keep track of your activity (stand, move, exercise) with the Activity Activity icon app

Track workouts

Display photos from synced photo albums

Use Apple Pay to make purchases. See Make purchases with Apple Pay.

Anyway, we'll all find out for ourselves when we have our watches.
 
while the manual states what we can do without the phone, it never states what we can't do. Just because an option is missing doesn't necessarily mean it isn't accessible. The words being absent doesn't necessarily mean the feature is.
 
This actually is a bit disappointing, especially in regards to accepting phone calls. I wouldn't want to use that function in the gym (people will probably want to kill me), but this would have been useful in a workplace and especially at home. You can just leave the phone charging in the bedroom or downstairs and handle all tasks from the watch. 30-foot range is tiny.

I don't understand the apologists in the forum. In the keynote, they said that all Handoff functionality would be available. It works fine on the iPad and Mac, no need to be within bluetooth range. Why not the watch?
 
atiffarooq said:
That ALSO, comes after this:

Although you need an iPhone to do most things with Apple Watch, you can still do several things with Apple Watch without having an iPhone in range.

Play music from a synced playlist on Apple Watch

Use the watch, alarms, timers, and the stopwatch

Keep track of your activity (stand, move, exercise) with the Activity Activity icon app

Track workouts

Display photos from synced photo albums

Use Apple Pay to make purchases. See Make purchases with Apple Pay.

Anyway, we'll all find out for ourselves when we have our watches.
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Yes, you are right! I am exhausted with all the stress about receiving the :apple: Watch.....going to have a glass of wine and go to bed. 😉
 
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