They always manage to miss the point.
Except for those times when they change the subject; start mumbling blather about Xerox Parc; or degenerate into another rant containing references to "fanboys", "sheeple", or post pictures from a long-forgotten episode of
Lost In Space to better prove their point that Apple's position as the most succesful company in Tech is all due to Steve Jobs and Jonny Ives plunder of the brilliant innovations wrought by some genius at 20th Century Fox' prop department.
There exists on this forum a
cabal of individuals who, for reasons best known to themselves, are simply incapable of conceding
any creativity, innovation, or positive effect on the part of Apple.
Why they choose to do this is frankly beyond me. Why they choose to spend their days trolling a forum dedicated to Apple the company, its products, and its enthusiasts, is something we can only speculate about.
They make a point of relentlessly voting down any post that contains references to actual relevant facts; or that is well thought-out. Bonus negative points are awarded for logical reasoning; well-articulated arguments; dry wit; mild irony; or güd speling. Wear your "negative" points in a thread like this as a Badge of Honor, for Thee Hath surely Made the Haters Squirm!
Engaging these individuals can be an exercise in Sisyphean frustration. One may conclusively refute one piece of arrant nonsense, only to be faced with a flurry of yet-further erroneous, irrelevant nonsense that springs, Hydra-like (to mix my mythological metaphors), from their fervid brains.
There are undoubtedly many individuals who post here on MR whose knowledge, insight, wisdom, and writing abilities add greatly to the community. People who can - and do - rationally discuss Apple's products, people, policies, and plans - both good and bad - in an engaging and edifying manner. I have learned a great deal from this forum and its members.
The trick, as they say, is being able to distinguish the latter from the former.