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From the company that now charges 99 cents for a three month "free trial", a company that increased the cost of the iPhone and MBP by $500 for no reason. Do I think they will remove this dongle so you have to buy one in store? You are damn right I believe this rumour.
 
Cheap a$$, Apple! Sigh.
They gave you the dongle for 2 years. Use what you have and/or join the wireless party.

Still hate it, go Android...

Wait, they are starting to remove headphones jacks too. They give out dongles still?
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lose the dongle? then include airpods.

Why not leave a charger out of the box while you're at it?
They include wired headphones.
 
1/8” analog connections (aka headphone jack) are the worst audio connectors available. It’s only redeeming feature is that it’s small. And it’s pure crazy to argue better transmission/interference with a wireless digital connection where there is absolutely zero crosstalk.
And then with Apple’s W1 signal, which easily bests anything a 1/8” analog connection can muster.

Which is all just further irony by headphone jack enthusiasts arguing sound quality, because headphones are the worst monitoring devices. Every headphone design ever produced, trades audio quality for isolation and portability.

I don't think you know how the technology works. The signal on a 1/8" jack is only as good as the DAC and amp powering it, and you bet your ass there are DAC's and amps out there that wipe the floor with the W1.

And I think you're missing the point he and I both made - this is not about wireless. A wireless solution to your hardware issue would suck for you, agreed. This is about buying the dongle(s), put each on the end of the half dozen cables you own and leave them there, and you are done. The rest of your setup is exactly the same: all cables, no latency, no wireless.

Ah, yes. The solution that still involves BUYING something else... Also you seem to be forgetting that putting those dongles on everything is great when the only source of audio you use is your iPhone. Those dongles have to come off when I want to use any other device I own with them. Now those unattached dongles can go missing easy, better throw more money at apple for creating a solution in search of a problem.
 
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YEAH!!! WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO USE BLUETOOTH! ALSO I WANT 30 PIN - LIGHTNING ADAPTERS INCLUDED BECAUSE WTF. AND WHY SHOULD BUY A USB-SERIAL ADAPTER IF MY COMPUTER DOESN'T SUPPORT USB - INCLUDE THAT IN THE BOX TOO. WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO USE AIRPLAY???? PUT A LIGHTNING TO HDMI ADAPTER IN THERE. WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR APPLE TO SUPPORT MY OUTDATED TECHNOLOGY????

Nice caps. Except unlike your 30-pin example which is hardly used today anywhere, wired audio is (and will be) used outside of Apple for maybe ever. So way to go Apple to think inside the Apple box only and further insulate the user’s ability to conveniently use our overpriced phones outside of the Apple device itself.
 
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Nope, 1/8” (headphone jack) is an unbalanced audio connection.

You can tell by the connector tip, count the rings. For balanced, you’d need a hot, cold and ground for each side, L and R, so six rings total.

Fiber optic smokes any analog connection. It could easily fit in an iPhone and would be smaller than the analog 1/8”. But why? If you can transmit the same 1s and 0s wirelessly, why would you bother with a connector and cabling? Cables and connectors will always be prone to stress and breakage.

You are correct about it being unbalanced, but the only time a Balanced connection is needed is when you have two separately powered devices that can result in grounds at different potentials. The balanced nature of that cable is to bring the two to the same level so you don't end up with ground noise. In a headphone, there is no second ground connected to a power source to cause this issue in the first place, so it's a straight up non-issue that it isn't balanced.
 
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We will come back here in 25 years and see lol.

But regardless if folks had their way Apple would never drop support for anything.

It warms my heart though when they stand their ground and I hope this rumor becomes truth.

Folks need to realize that just because someone wants something doesn’t mean they will get it.
The analog audio jack will be around long after the lightning port is extinct and the iPhone becomes passe.
 
First Tim gets rid of the earpod case, now the dongle. The next thing to go will be the stickers...nooooo!

I think they were removed to make the packaging of the iPhone more environmentally considerate.. And most people didn't use them so they must've decided there was no point to keep including them.
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Er.......yes. You've literally solved the problem.

Maybe until they get rid of the Lightning port. :p
 
Rewatch the keynote it’s explained as to why it had to go.

Already watched.

Tell me about the progress which took place between the iPhone 6s and the 7 when Apple removed the headphone jack.

Please, explain this great advancement.

Because the way I see it, there is no progress there, and no advancement. Only a backwards step, a downgrade, dressed up in marketing BS from a greedy company f*cking its own users for greater profits.

Do you see something different?
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The analog audio jack will be around long after the lightning port is extinct and the iPhone becomes passe.

Wholeheartedly agree.
 
The cynic in me is thinking that Apple didn't want to engineer a layout to fit the headphone jack (the cost of fabrication, assembly pipelines, modeling, etc), not because they didn't find it useless. I think they truly rationalized the "wireless" argument in their process and convinced themselves that this was the right thing to do. As long as they didn't go way left field on their ideas, people would still buy.
 
Logically, then we'd also have to take the rumors of lower iPhone pricing as factual, too. I'll go on record that I'm fine with Apple keeping all of their accessories if my next iPhone costs significantly less.
No I’m not saying to take every rumor as fact. Although in that case, the new pricing is also true with the X at $899 and larger model $999. I don’t think I agree with Apple not including this purely because it’s a lower price, because it’s still more expensive than any other iPhone. I reason behind it is more to do with moving on and customers not needing it, 2 years after the headphone jack was removed, there are (arguably) better solutions available.
 
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Not surprising if this is true. The headphone jack adaptor was always meant to be a stop gap measure. Were users expecting Apple to keep bundling them for perpuity?
 
I wish iPhone would get on the USB-C train. Lightning is old hat.
Problem with USB C is that the connector is larger than lightning. And Apple eliminated the headphone jack to provide more space for other components so presumably the space allowance is limited to the point where lightning is required.
 
Eliminating the headphone jack was ridiculous in the first place.
I do buy Apple computers but I no longer stick up for them when people poke fun at them.
Apple deserves it
 
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Do you believe everything they tell you? They could have fit it in. This guy made it work:


Imagine what apple could do with all of their engineering ability.

I actually do because they spend the R&D on their products and should be able to design them as see fit.
 
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