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My 7 year old MacBook Pro isn't that much slower than this. However, those numbers are meaningless; sure it can perform well in short bursts (Geekbench isn't exactly an intense benchmark) but can it perform like that over 15 minutes? 30 minutes? 2 hours? Try running handbrake for an extended length of time, exporting a movie from Adobe Premiere or rendering some kind of 3D animation.

The bottleneck for MacBooks has always been the terrible cooling implementation. Once it goes over the 90c mark, you know things will downclock on the CPU to keep it from having a meltdown.

the fastest MBP 13 from 2012 that I found was 6600, so your answer makes no sense in reality. If you had a higher end 15 inch from 2012, the Geekbench was 12000, so yah even pretty much faster than that, especially comparing the high end in the 2012 to to the low end now as you are doing. Of course if you compared the high end 15" MBP today, that is 30,000

Your cynicism does not appear accurate in the least
 
Can it connect my external drive with all my photoshop, illustrator and indesign files, go through files and folders quickly and run the Adobe Creative Suite with a mouse?

Answer: of course not. So why should I be putting my money on a gimped device that serves only as a glorified smartphone?
A product not being right for you doesn't mean it's not right for plenty of other people.

Still 14nm. No buy until Intel 10nm or AMD 7nm.
As if you would ever buy an Apple product.
 
Am so tempted to get this. But I am worried about the long term usability of it's keyboard.

Its funny, everyone who actually has one, loves it. Except of course the people who write-up lots of complaints in articles. Buy a sleeve, don't trust your laptop to dust in backpacks, et, and you will be fine. And, if not, free repairs for 4 years! Thats way better than Dell
 
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Double the cores and of course it's going to be 83% faster in multi-core benchmarks! Duh!

The real stat is only 6.8% faster than previous gen in single core. That shows the 7th and 8th gen core performance isn't that different. There needs to be a 10% increase for a user to begin to see or feel it.
 
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Can it connect my external drive with all my photoshop, illustrator and indesign files, go through files and folders quickly and run the Adobe Creative Suite with a mouse?

Answer: of course not. So why should I be putting my money on a gimped device that serves only as a glorified smartphone?

Well iOS 13 has mouse support and can connect via USB. done criticism solved!
 
How am I supposed to work on Indesign and Illustrator though? What about video editing? Animators? Web developers, etc?

You're not, at least not yet. But to suggest the iPad is a "glorified smartphone" when it will soon be able to run the full version of the most powerful and popular photo editing app in the world is absurd.
 
Its funny, everyone who actually has one, loves it. Except of course the people who write-up lots of complaints in articles. Buy a sleeve, don't trust your laptop to dust in backpacks, et, and you will be fine. And, if not, free repairs for 4 years! Thats way better than Dell

You mean free KEYBOARD repairs for 4 years. Dell has standard 3 year bumper-to-bumper warranty on many of their business Latitude laptops and don't have a need to offer extended warranties due to a crap design keyboard.
 
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From 1299 to 2399 to goto a 15 inch screen? Why not spec out a 15 inch MBP with similar specs and a more modest price increase?
 
How am I supposed to work on Indesign and Illustrator though? What about video editing? Animators? Web developers, etc?

Pretty crazy to suggest an iPad is a sufficient replacement for a laptop.

For many people it is, don't be a scrooge. Just because you can find areas where it is not, does not mean that in many areas it is. It is pretty crazy to say because it does not meet all needs it does not meet its own target market very well.

And aren't adobe and others releasing packages just for iPad Pro? what about that?
 
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Disagree. iPad Pro is useless for most professional applications. It’s fine for browsing Facebook, though.

my how condescending! Many professionals use tablets for lots of purposes. Just because certain functions are still best served on desktops and even laptops, does not make the other professionals less professional.

I agree with sirozha. Most applications that professionals use are not on the iPad Pro, and even if they were, it's easier to use a laptop or desktop. Artists have the Apple Pencil but with no mouse, the iPad is gimped for everyone else, IMO.

There was nothing condescending in his post. He didn't even address "professionals"...he addressed applications.
 
Double the cores and of course it's going to be 83% faster in multi-core benchmarks! Duh!

The real stat is only 6.8% faster than previous gen in single core. That shows the 7th and 8th gen core performance isn't that different. There needs to be a 10% increase for a user to begin to see or feel it.


Have you ever used Activity Monitor? Almost no app out there is not multi-threaded and spread across multiple cores. And running more than one application at a time clearly benefits. Did you check the calendar? This comment does not seem appropriate for 2019 at all.
 
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Can it connect my external drive with all my photoshop, illustrator and indesign files, go through files and folders quickly and run the Adobe Creative Suite with a mouse?

Answer: of course not. So why should I be putting my money on a gimped device that serves only as a glorified smartphone?

I believe once the official release (GM build) is out, a lot of you guys with iPads, especially iPad Pro's are going to be amazed! Right now it is hit or miss hooking up SD cards etc...but that will be all sorted out. Also, I am not sure if you watched the keynote, but Adobe is brining the full version of Photoshop (just like what you would get on macOS) and more of their programs to iPadOS. For people who have not even seen the beta in action (assuming it stays that way all summer) then you will be so excited to see how amazing and powerful iPadOS is.

Finally, iPadOS...the OS that will get us the closest yet to utilizing the full power of the X-series chips in the iPad Pro's.

:apple:
 
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Can it connect my external drive with all my photoshop, illustrator and indesign files, go through files and folders quickly and run the Adobe Creative Suite with a mouse?

Answer: of course not. So why should I be putting my money on a gimped device that serves only as a glorified smartphone?

The answer to all parts of your question is yes. Did you miss wwdc? The strength of full computers is in multitasking and no more any of the things you mentioned. iPad is no longer a glorified smartphone and hasn’t been for a while. Probably don’t make a comment like this next time until you have actually used an ipad to get work done
 
Nice, but I would like some more info on the rumored ARM-transition before I buy anything laptop-related from Apple (probably done with that anyway).
 
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