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Well iOS 13 has mouse support and can connect via USB. done criticism solved!

Mouse problem solved. What about having Adobe Creative Suite programs available on iOS? All those benchmarks mean absolutely nothing, when majority of programs professionals use are not available. Life is a bit more complex, then what Apple commercials show us. Don't get me wrong, iPads are nice and can be used productively, but are still far away from substituting computers.
 
You mean free KEYBOARD repairs for 4 years. Dell has standard 3 year bumper-to-bumper warranty on many of their business Latitude laptops and don't have a need to offer extended warranties due to a crap design keyboard.


Not according to their web site: "1 Year Ltd Hware Warranty: Mail-in; Customer supplies box, Dell pays shipping". so maybe standard extended warranty coverage. yah pretty much.

And most people actually do love the keyboards, their have been some problems, mostly in dusty environment (like backpacks without sleveing the laptop, who does that?). So unless someone comes up with some numbers like 2%, or 20% of keyboards need repair, than a lot of this is just crap.

BTW: I used to use Dell, but I got tired of the crappy quality and poor life expectancy, poor resale. Threw a bunch away over the years. Maybe things are better are now?
 
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I purchased the 2017 model last year, and it's been a great laptop. With that said, I only bought it because medical schools, at least the ones I applied to, required a laptop/computer. I use my 10.5" iPad Pro significantly more often, either for school (especially with Notability) and for media consumption, so I plan to use my current MacBook Pro until it quits and replace my 10.5 iPad Pro with the 11" iPad Pro next year.
 
It is interesting that Intel is making customized variants of its chips exclusively for Apple. I would really like to know what’s up with that.
 
Great that even the entry level MacBook Pro is now quad core. It’s not hard to bog down two i5 cores doing moderate multitasking. Anything CPU intensive such as encoding should go twice as fast. Battery life will probably improve as well, since the CPU can spend more time in a low power state between tasks.
 
It is interesting that Intel is making customized variants of its chips exclusively for Apple. I would really like to know what’s up with that.

It's to prevent smart consumers from doing shopping research/comparison and price matching since the custom part likely doesn't have specs (# of cores, frequency range, manufacturing node, etc.) on Intel site. Same reason large retail chains have their own store specific models of electronics so it's harder for a smart shopper to come in and ask for price match from a competitor store.
 
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the fastest MBP 13 from 2012 that I found was 6600, so your answer makes no sense in reality. If you had a higher end 15 inch from 2012, the Geekbench was 12000, so yah even pretty much faster than that, especially comparing the high end in the 2012 to to the low end now as you are doing. Of course if you compared the high end 15" MBP today, that is 30,000

Your cynicism does not appear accurate in the least

Not to mention faster SSDs, TB3 support (plus eGPU if you need more GPU power), faster Wi-Fi, better displays, and more.

The CPU isn't the only factor to compare going back 7 years; only if nothing else changed. On the other hand, keyboard is a serious regression and touchbar for many.
 
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It is interesting that Intel is making customized variants of its chips exclusively for Apple. I would really like to know what’s up with that.
Apple has been running custom ARM chips in their phones and tablets with great results. Not hard to understand why they might do the same with their other chips.
 
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The real-world improvement for most use cases is much less impressive than the headline (83% improvement!) makes it seem, since nearly all that improvement is from doubling the number of cores, while most programs people use are still single-threaded. Thus what you need to look at is single-threaded performance, which is only incrementally faster. Yes, things like video editing, and running multiple coding jobs, are exceptions, but they're the exceptions that prove the rule.

This isn't Apple's fault. Rather, it results from the current disconnect between how most software is written (single-threaded) and where most of the improvement is happening in processor speed (increased core count rather than improved single-thread performance).
 
So the 1.4 Ghz quad core is faster than the 2.4 Ghz quad core? There has to be more to this.
No the slowest it runs is 1.4 GHz but with turbo boost it can reach speeds up to 2.9 Ghz when needed
 
my how condescending! Many professionals use tablets for lots of purposes. Just because certain functions are still best served on desktops and even laptops, does not make the other professionals less professional.

Where are these iPad Pro using professionals? I've worked in the creative field for 15 years and have NEVER seen anyone use a tablet outside of old grandmas to browse Facebook.
 
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Okay, so now the 13" is an option. Maybe.

Before, when compared to a 15", spec'd with the same memory and storage, the price was way too close to justify the slowness of the 13". If i remember right, the difference was like 5-10% less for the 13", but with 50% performance.

But i dont recall the benchmarks on the 2019.. i would expect the 13" to cost less than the 15" in proportion to size and performance...so it hasnt been an option to me. I mean, buying 2 computers isnt an option for me....
 
Isn't doubling the cores for a 83% increase in multi-core performance actually a troubling sign of a poor design?
 
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How am I supposed to work on Indesign and Illustrator though? What about video editing? Animators? Web developers, etc?

Pretty crazy to suggest an iPad is a sufficient replacement for a laptop.

What % of people actually use all the programs you’ve mentioned? Since you do, then stick with a laptop. Better yet stick with a desktop. LumaFusion is great from video editing. But there will always be those few that require something different than a product they don’t prefer.
 
Where are these iPad Pro using professionals? I've worked in the creative field for 15 years and have NEVER seen anyone use a tablet outside of old grandmas to browse Facebook.
Your responses are almost always extremely pretentious and know it all. Why don’t you lighten up a little and stop being a jerk to everybody you disagree with?
 
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