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Battery life for 13" and 15" Macbook Pro

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Lehis

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Ok, thank you for the quick reply. My design capacity is the same. Could we please get more results to confirm that around 4800-4900 mAh full charge and 4790 design capacity are what you get with 13 non TB model?
 
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battery between el captain and Sierra has 2 hours difference
tested on late 2013 Mbp
[doublepost=1479474616][/doublepost]so i guess, like with iOS10, the new OS has an impact to the battery usage
 
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skids929 said:
I have a 15 and a 13..I don't think I will use the 15 again after tonight (it's going back), I like the 13. The 15 definitely uses more battery and goes through it quicker. This 13 has lasted all evening with some left. Not sure why they are so different I can only surmise what I think may be going on. I have only been web surfing and some light video watching. I did turn the key back light off but that wasn't until I realized I could about an hour ago. Not sure what little that will do, but what the heck.

For sure there is a difference between these two machines I am testing. The 15 is going back, mainly because it's too large and heavy for my taste. I LOVE the form factor of the 13, I even type quieter on it for some reason. Just a better fit and better battery life too. Both are touch bar models btw.
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So strange. I completed my third battery cycle last night and got 6:27, almost exactly what Battery Health 2 and Apple's own energy panel predicted. On my previous two battery cycles I got around the same.

I installed Battery Logger for this cycle. So far I'm on track for 6-7 hours according to the estimates. 60% brightness, and just web browsing, email, Slack, with maybe one hour of watching YouTube or Netflix per battery cycle.

I think it's pretty clear that my particular 13" tMBP, as well as several others out there, gets only 6.5 hours of battery. I do not understand why some other people are getting 10 hours. Makes no sense to me unless there are defective units. I guess I should return this and try another before deciding to move to a 13" non-TB or the 15".
 
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badlydrawnboy said:
So strange. I completed my third battery cycle last night and got 6:27, almost exactly what Battery Health 2 and Apple's own energy panel predicted. On my previous two battery cycles I got around the same.

I installed Battery Logger for this cycle. So far I'm on track for 6-7 hours according to the estimates. 60% brightness, and just web browsing, email, Slack, with maybe one hour of watching YouTube or Netflix per battery cycle.

I think it's pretty clear that my particular 13" tMBP, as well as several others out there, gets only 6.5 hours of battery. I do not understand why some other people are getting 10 hours. Makes no sense to me unless there are defective units. I guess I should return this and try another before deciding to move to a 13" non-TB or the 15".
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Which processor does yours have? FWIW, my experience so far on this 13 is only one cycle, so I need to reserve judgement positive or negative at this point. But my first run through felt normal to me, about 9 hours. Granted it was only web surf, but thats a lot of what I will do with it.

Did you shut down keyboard backlight? Try that and put your screen brightness to 75% if you haven't already. I am returning the 15 I bought today, there is no question that battery drains quicker than this 13 TB.
 
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badlydrawnboy said:
So strange. I completed my third battery cycle last night and got 6:27, almost exactly what Battery Health 2 and Apple's own energy panel predicted. On my previous two battery cycles I got around the same.

I installed Battery Logger for this cycle. So far I'm on track for 6-7 hours according to the estimates. 60% brightness, and just web browsing, email, Slack, with maybe one hour of watching YouTube or Netflix per battery cycle.

I think it's pretty clear that my particular 13" tMBP, as well as several others out there, gets only 6.5 hours of battery. I do not understand why some other people are getting 10 hours. Makes no sense to me unless there are defective units. I guess I should return this and try another before deciding to move to a 13" non-TB or the 15".
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Not to call them liars, but they are probably not actually using it all the way down. They are just looking at the projected battery life. I'm also getting 6-7 on the 13" TB and 10-11 on the no TB. Same usage.
 
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mattopotamus said:
Not to call them liars, but they are probably not actually using it all the way down. They are just looking at the projected battery life. I'm also getting 6-7 on the 13" TB and 10-11 on the no TB. Same usage.
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that is likely just the difference in the wattage on the processors don't you think? Not the TBs fault. And here is a question, if you go with the i7 upgrade in the non TB model is it still a 15w chip like the 2.0ghz i5 that comes standard?

I want to say all these discrepencies are related to either CPU or RAM. Not sure I could in any rationalize how RAM uses more battery but someone more techie could.
 
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fokmik said:
battery between el captain and Sierra has 2 hours difference
tested on late 2013 Mbp
[doublepost=1479474616][/doublepost]so i guess, like with iOS10, the new OS has an impact to the battery usage
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Hope they fix this then. Looks like Im getting about 5-6hs. The battery data isn't accurate yet, but I know I'm not getting 8-10 like I had hoped.
 
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15" model here. First charge got around 7 hours of use (YouTube, web surfing etc.).

Right now on second charge. I noticed that the battery drains a lot faster while it's put to sleep (more than 10% per night). And just now I noticed that the Messages app and sometimes Finder make use of the dGPU. Screen Shot 2016-11-18 at 11.16.02 AM.png

The actual on-screen time has been less than 4 hours. If the time remaining projected here is correct I won't get anywhere near 10 hours of use as advertised.
 
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jacob_w said:
15" model here. First charge got around 7 hours of use (YouTube, web surfing etc.).

Right now on second charge. I noticed that the battery drains a lot faster while it's put to sleep (more than 10% per night). And just now I noticed that the Messages app and sometimes Finder make use of the dGPU. View attachment 673199

The actual on-screen time has been less than 4 hours. If the time remaining projected here is correct I won't get anywhere near 10 hours of use as advertised.
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I hope apple fixes this in a software update...
 
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skids929 said:
that is likely just the difference in the wattage on the processors don't you think? Not the TBs fault. And here is a question, if you go with the i7 upgrade in the non TB model is it still a 15w chip like the 2.0ghz i5 that comes standard?

I want to say all these discrepencies are related to either CPU or RAM. Not sure I could in any rationalize how RAM uses more battery but someone more techie could.
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I don't think it's the TBs fault, but the combination of a smaller battery, CPU, and the TB.
 
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Kafou33

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fokmik said:
battery between el captain and Sierra has 2 hours difference
tested on late 2013 Mbp
[doublepost=1479474616][/doublepost]so i guess, like with iOS10, the new OS has an impact to the battery usage
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Maybe when they benchmark the 10h it was with el captain as sierra is pretty new.
 
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skids929 said:
Which processor does yours have? FWIW, my experience so far on this 13 is only one cycle, so I need to reserve judgement positive or negative at this point. But my first run through felt normal to me, about 9 hours. Granted it was only web surf, but thats a lot of what I will do with it.

Did you shut down keyboard backlight? Try that and put your screen brightness to 75% if you haven't already. I am returning the 15 I bought today, there is no question that battery drains quicker than this 13 TB.
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what is a macbook then?
 
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Super disappointing. I was hoping the 15" got at least 8 hours, but it seems like even that is not assured.

I will probably replace my tMBP 13 with the non-TB version.
 
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kokhoong0624 said:
The review of the MBP here states that it has even better battery life... than the Surface Book with Performance Base (which claimed 16 hours).
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/macbook-pro-15-inch

Why are there so many disparities... Or does it happen with every MacBook revision?
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Thats nuts, there is no way I could get 10 hours on this 15. all I have done is basic web search too. This reviewer was either paid off or completely high at the time.
 
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skids929 said:
Thats nuts, there is no way I could get 10 hours on this 15. all I have done is basic web search too. This reviewer was either paid off or completely high at the time.
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However your 13 inch seemed to outperform all the battery life of the reviews out there... I read from the other forums and some people claimed that the 15 inch can reach 9 hours.... f*** my mind LOL wonder if there's an issue with the software or is there diff manufacturers for the battery...
 
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