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Battlefield 3 Beta

ahdickter said:
MW3 is using the same engine as MW2. Looks the same.
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It does look the same. But it still looks a lot better than BC2 on low at playable settings. Didn't try BF3. The big outside levels are a no go with my 256mb 330M. I think anything below 1GB is not really good idea for BF3 outside.

To me this thread looks the same as all those threads where people said. Hey you can play MW2 at high settings no problem on a 6490M or 330M, not realizing that with 256mb GPUs it won't let you enable any actual high detail settings. It is just medium which is still a lot better than crysis or something on low settings.
 
I'm thinking of buying a mbp 15" 2,2ghz core i7 today, but i really want to know if the game really runs smooth?

//BR
Patrik
 
played caspian border, had a lot of problems, guess there is a reason they haven't included it in the open beta
 
ahdickter said:
I personally never had a problem OC'ing my card. I'm running the overclock at 770/900 @1.00v. Im also on 11.6 drivers, if anyone wants to know as well.

If it's true that the settings are locked on medium, then I guess we won't be running it as well as we thought! Although going from ultra to low does change appearance noticeably....

After going through some more testing, it seems that running on the high preset gives about 40-50fps outside, and 60fps underground in the subway (to be expected).

Open beta tomorrow!

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It's also debatable whether newer drivers actually improve BF3 beta performance. Whenever I played BC2 on 11.8 drivers, my FPS actually dropped (though it raised Black Ops). Thats why I'm still on 11.6. The recently released 11.10 drivers are optimized for the BF3 beta, but those aren't yet laptops....so we're stuck.

The only other way is to overclock your GPU. If you are tech savvy enough to try it, give it a go. If not, don't even worry about it, it's not that big a deal.

P.S. Make sure you restart the game after you change graphical settings to achieve the full effects of the change. Good luck!
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Hi

How do you achieve such high fps numbers when we both have the same machine?. I'm running 11.9 and 1680x1050 resolution on low and getting around 15-25 fps outside and 25-35 on the subway. How is this possible?. Would it be because of the drivers? I wouldn't think native res on 1680 would have that much of a performance hit, would it? Thanks.
 
I'm using the driver from post 3 on page 1 from hardwareheaven for my AMD 6750M and overclocked it from 600/793 to 750/900 and no problems at all.
i play "F1 2011", BC2, FIFA 2012 and BF3 Beta...no crashes.
I also undervolted my 6750M from 1,0V to 0,95V.
I used "ATI TRAY TOOLS" for overclocking and undervolting.
Turn HBAO off and AA to 1x, use high textures and the rest at low settings.
Should run at 30-50fps at 1680x1050.
 
Edycal said:
Hi

How do you achieve such high fps numbers when we both have the same machine?. I'm running 11.9 and 1680x1050 resolution on low and getting around 15-25 fps outside and 25-35 on the subway. How is this possible?. Would it be because of the drivers? I wouldn't think native res on 1680 would have that much of a performance hit, would it? Thanks.
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Are you overclocking? Im giving it a 25% speed boost by going from 600/800 to 770/925. Also, try 11.10 preview drivers. They are specifically designed for improved BF3 performance.

Also, 1680x1050 has roughly a 27% increase in pixels from 1400x900. That's a considerable amount.

But in the end, I did in fact jump the gun (so to speak). Running the high preset gives roughly 30-40fps outside, and 45-60 inside. I did embellish a tad, and that is my fault. However, don't forget that no matter how low the actual fps, it will always seem higher due to motion blur (which is why I thought it was higher, since I didn't have my fps counter on, so I was going by sight).

One more thing to mention: Fps does not seem to change much (at least for me) when I switch from low to high to ultra. My theory is that all the graphical enhancements are not in the beta (vsync is screwy).



PatrikL said:
I'm thinking of buying a mbp 15" 2,2ghz core i7 today, but i really want to know if the game really runs smooth?
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Buying a laptop that will run this game "completely" smooth is impossible (the graphical requirements for ultra with MSAA cranked up is insane). However, I'm currently using that model, and I think not only is the gaming aspect promising, but the overall built quality is superb. Will you be able to play every game all high? No, but for that you'll need a $3000+ alienware.


dusk007 said:
It does look the same. But it still looks a lot better than BC2 on low at playable settings. Didn't try BF3. The big outside levels are a no go with my 256mb 330M. I think anything below 1GB is not really good idea for BF3 outside.

To me this thread looks the same as all those threads where people said. Hey you can play MW2 at high settings no problem on a 6490M or 330M, not realizing that with 256mb GPUs it won't let you enable any actual high detail settings. It is just medium which is still a lot better than crysis or something on low settings.
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Have you ever gone up to a wall in MW2 and looked at ir? It's complete pixilation my friend. MW2 may look good from afar, but once looking at the little details that make the game complete, you find that it can't compete with high-requirement games.

In the end, you play with what ya got. I had an HP for 4 years before I got this MBP. It was running an 8600M. Did I still enjoy the games I was able to play? But did I diss the detail of another game simply because it was out of my playing range? Hell no. Give games the respect they deserve.
 
ahdickter said:
Are you overclocking? Im giving it a 25% speed boost by going from 600/800 to 770/925. Also, try 11.10 preview drivers. They are specifically designed for improved BF3 performance.

Also, 1680x1050 has roughly a 27% increase in pixels from 1400x900. That's a considerable amount.

But in the end, I did in fact jump the gun (so to speak). Running the high preset gives roughly 30-40fps outside, and 45-60 inside. I did embellish a tad, and that is my fault. However, don't forget that no matter how low the actual fps, it will always seem higher due to motion blur (which is why I thought it was higher, since I didn't have my fps counter on, so I was going by sight).

One more thing to mention: Fps does not seem to change much (at least for me) when I switch from low to high to ultra. My theory is that all the graphical enhancements are not in the beta (vsync is screwy).





Buying a laptop that will run this game "completely" smooth is impossible (the graphical requirements for ultra with MSAA cranked up is insane). However, I'm currently using that model, and I think not only is the gaming aspect promising, but the overall built quality is superb. Will you be able to play every game all high? No, but for that you'll need a $3000+ alienware.




Have you ever gone up to a wall in MW2 and looked at ir? It's complete pixilation my friend. MW2 may look good from afar, but once looking at the little details that make the game complete, you find that it can't compete with high-requirement games.

In the end, you play with what ya got. I had an HP for 4 years before I got this MBP. It was running an 8600M. Did I still enjoy the games I was able to play? But did I diss the detail of another game simply because it was out of my playing range? Hell no. Give games the respect they deserve.
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What did you do to overclock your MBP, and does your MBP run significantly hotter with the overclock?
 
m1tch92 said:
What did you do to overclock your MBP, and does your MBP run significantly hotter with the overclock?
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I used this thread:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1142028/

Personally, I'm running my GPU at 770/925 @1.00v (read the thread and you'll understand completely).

In some cases it does run hotter, other times it stays the same temps. When my GPU is not under a lot of stress (TF2 or the like) it hits about 80C. But when the GPU is under heavy load (say....BF3 :) ) it usually goes up to 84C while it loads textures (which can take awhile) then it goes back to 79C. Not that hot actually.

Good luck!
 
tehnoobzorz said:
have you guys tried it with throttlestop?
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I used to use that program, but its not good to stop the CPU from naturally throttling. Over time it can damage the processor. CPU usage for the 2.2ghz Core i7 is around 40-70% usage. You might be able to squeeze a few more fps out of it though. Lemme know how it goes!
 
ahdickter said:
I used this thread:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1142028/

Personally, I'm running my GPU at 770/925 @1.00v (read the thread and you'll understand completely).

In some cases it does run hotter, other times it stays the same temps. When my GPU is not under a lot of stress (TF2 or the like) it hits about 80C. But when the GPU is under heavy load (say....BF3 :) ) it usually goes up to 84C while it loads textures (which can take awhile) then it goes back to 79C. Not that hot actually.

Good luck!
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I installed ATI Tray Tools, but nothing happens when I try to run the program. Even selecting "Run as Administrator" doesn't do anything. Help?
 
m1tch92 said:
I installed ATI Tray Tools, but nothing happens when I try to run the program. Even selecting "Run as Administrator" doesn't do anything. Help?
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When you were setting the higher clock speeds in the settings, did you check the box off that said "include clocks in profile" when you saved it?
 
ahdickter said:
When you were setting the higher clock speeds in the settings, did you check the box off that said "include clocks in profile" when you saved it?
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I can't launch the program after installation. Double- clicking on the icon and selecting run as administrator does not open the application.
 
ahdickter said:
I used to use that program, but its not good to stop the CPU from naturally throttling. Over time it can damage the processor. CPU usage for the 2.2ghz Core i7 is around 40-70% usage. You might be able to squeeze a few more fps out of it though. Lemme know how it goes!
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The main idea is to stop it from TURBOing, which would in turn keep temps more stable, aka reduce throttling. Simply running WEI would cause the CPUs to hit 95+ on most MBPs. Using TS at 22x multiplier, it shouldn't get above 85.
 
2hvy4grvty said:
The main idea is to stop it from TURBOing, which would in turn keep temps more stable, aka reduce throttling. Simply running WEI would cause the CPUs to hit 95+ on most MBPs. Using TS at 22x multiplier, it shouldn't get above 85.
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Interesting, I never thought about using TS to actually keep heat down. What settings do you use then? Do you untick turbo and keep the multiplier at 22x? That would effectively lock the CPU at 2.2ghz, correct? Also, what is WEI?

Thanks!
 
I use Throttlestop and absolutely love how it improves my FPS, especially in CPU hungry games like BC2 and BF3. Tried the AMD BF3 drivers and they seem to be faster than the 11.8 I was using before. I'm playing at 800x600 on Ultra except motion blur. Gonna try on higher res later tonight. Surprised the 6750 GPU handles really well even on a huge map like caspian at high settings.
 
f1restarter said:
I use Throttlestop and absolutely love how it improves my FPS, especially in CPU hungry games like BC2 and BF3. Tried the AMD BF3 drivers and they seem to be faster than the 11.8 I was using before. I'm playing at 800x600 on Ultra except motion blur. Gonna try on higher res later tonight. Surprised the 6750 GPU handles really well even on a huge map like caspian at high settings.
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Do you use TS to force turbo or restrict turbo?
 
WonkyPanda said:
Do you use TS to force turbo or restrict turbo?
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I would assume restrict turbo, in my experimentations with pushing thermal envelope on my 2011 MBP the CPU will start down throttling itself soon enough if both gpu and cpu are being maxed out, so I'd assume that stopping cpu to turbo in first place will keep the thermal envelope more balanced and even.
 
f1restarter said:
I use Throttlestop and absolutely love how it improves my FPS, especially in CPU hungry games like BC2 and BF3. Tried the AMD BF3 drivers and they seem to be faster than the 11.8 I was using before. I'm playing at 800x600 on Ultra except motion blur. Gonna try on higher res later tonight. Surprised the 6750 GPU handles really well even on a huge map like caspian at high settings.
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Well of course FPS is going to be good at 800x600 with any settings. How does it run at at either full or slightly lower resolution with Throttlestop enabled? Also, is your MBP running hotter than stock settings?
 
m1tch92 said:
Well of course FPS is going to be good at 800x600 with any settings. How does it run at at either full or slightly lower resolution with Throttlestop enabled? Also, is your MBP running hotter than stock settings?
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I haven't tried throttlestop at 800x600 since that would be just a waste. I will be using TS at native res 1440x900 on high and report back soon. In 800x600 on ultra I get about 30fps in the open and about 40-50 inside the metro. Yes my MBP does run very hot when using TS on forced turbo. Temps go upto 100c.
 
ahdickter said:
When you were setting the higher clock speeds in the settings, did you check the box off that said "include clocks in profile" when you saved it?
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Nevermind, I found out that it was running in the toolbar. I'll test it soon, based on your settings.
 
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