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BBC Shows on iTunes This Week?
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Why is that disgusting and "rubbing our noses in it"? Surely it's a step in the right direction? And more content on iTunes, particularly quality BBC content, is good, right?
I'm sure if a deal between BBC Worldwide and Apple proves to be fruitful for both parties, then an iPlayer deal can't be far behind.
SL
thts u buying it to keep...were talking about content that has a time limit...nes pas?
I would imagine that if this deal goes through is it will be "classic" content rather that stuff that was on last week.
broadly in line with whats available on DVD at the moment
there does seem to be a lot of confusion between the iplayer and itunes retail model which could cause problems for them when explaining this to the general public
we shall see
broadly in line with whats available on DVD at the moment
there does seem to be a lot of confusion between the iplayer and itunes retail model which could cause problems for them when explaining this to the general public
we shall see
Don't get me wrong, content on iTunes (from anyone) is good from an Apple P.O.V., so with my mac-fan hat on I can see why it might be seen as a positive thing.
However, effectively a Windows user will now be able to download a BBC show and watch it for a week, for no cost, whereupon it will be passed on to iTunes for us chumps to pay for it, a week (or however long they choose) later.
And you really answered your own question - "an iPlayer deal can't be far behind" - that is the point, an iPlayer deal should have happened BEFORE this one, not after it, whether that's in a fortnight or 6 months. So, from a BBC licence-fee payer's P.O.V. I find it disgusting.
I understand the difference between BBC and BBC Worldwide, but I think far too few people understand just how shafted mac-using BBC viewers have been. Apple can take part of the blame for not offering their DRM to the BBC, but I think the problem goes deeper, with ex-MS staff in the BBC's technology dept.
It also continues the farcical paranoia of content producers insisting on DRM. The BBC themselves use that as an excuse, but in reality they don't seem to have even tried to convince the content producers to see the pointlessness of it, especially when a PVR makes the iPlayer look like a weird, antiquated piece of technology.
To paraphrase what Bill Bailey once said (on the BBC's very own Have I Got News For You funnily enough) of iPlayer: "It's like a video recorder... only your tapes self destruct after 7 days!"
Why stop at Linux? What about the Spectrum +3?
It's impossible to cover every platform, so if the BBC can only launch a service when it covers everything then there will never be any online availability.
One would note that between Windows and Mac versions of iPlayer the download service would already cover a larger precentage of the licence fee paying public than the analogue broadcast transmitters do...
Should the BBC also scrap it's HD channel because there's no room for it on Freeview?
It's hardly paranoia to say that if people are allowed to keep content for more than 7 days they probably will.
And the rights holders are quite prepared to sell that to the BBC. As long as the general public is fine with the licence fee being hoiked up to £800 per year to pay for it.
Phazer
From what I've heard the Windows only download iplayer isn't very popular anyway and the new flash based iplayer has been quite a success
i still think that any deal wont relate to current programmes but part of the BBC's huge back catalogue
Fingers crossed 
Wouldn't mind buying Dr Who and Torchwood through iTunes.
Would also add something to the UK's rather depleted iTunes video store. We currently have Lost, Ugly Betty and that's about it.
Plus, if BBC jumps on the iTunes bandwagon, so may Channel 4, which I would like to see a LOT. Father Ted, The IT Crowd, Peep Show and 8 out of 10 cats on iTunes anyone? Would like for that to happen
Viva la UK iTunes Video Store revolution!
I don't think Top Gear would be on it. Top Gear is more of a "Current Events" TV show, and would probably not be on iTunes. Then again I may be wrong. I would like to see it on there more reason for UK people to use iTunes... which is never bad!
Wouldn't mind buying Dr Who and Torchwood through iTunes.Would also add something to the UK's rather depleted iTunes video store. We currently have Lost, Ugly Betty and that's about it.
Plus, if BBC jumps on the iTunes bandwagon, so may Channel 4, which I would like to see a LOT. Father Ted, The IT Crowd, Peep Show and 8 out of 10 cats on iTunes anyone? Would like for that to happen
Viva la UK iTunes Video Store revolution!
If Top Gear becomes available on the US iTunes store my life will finally be complete.
I don't think Top Gear would be on it. Top Gear is more of a "Current Events" TV show, and would probably not be on iTunes. Then again I may be wrong. I would like to see it on there
more reason for UK people to use iTunes... which is never bad!
I would like to see classic comedy such as only fools, fawlty towers, one foot in the grave and outstanding shows like Hustle, Spooks and Robin Hood.
Lets hope the prices are the same as DVD or cheaper unlike the friends series when they first appeared on itunes
Seconded the comments on channel 4
Lets hope the prices are the same as DVD or cheaper unlike the friends series when they first appeared on itunes
Seconded the comments on channel 4
Yeah, an inconvenience, but a minor one. We can stream. Or watch on telly, maybe catch a repeat (hell there's enough of 'em). Personally I record with my Elgato EyeTV anyway and then transfer it to my iPod/
TV/iPhone. There's nothing in Windoze-land that can do that without a lot of aggro (if there is then tell me, my girlfriend want one). Certainly Windows iPlayer download manager can't!I can't imagine the BBC releasing content for purchase just 1 week after it's come off iPlayer. Stuff will most likely be released for purchase to coincide with DVD releases. Also there's going to be heaps of stuff available for purchase that was never on iPlayer (maybe classic Dr Who, Monty Python, Play for Today), and dross in iPlayer that wouldn't be available for purchase because no-one would pay money for it anyway (Eastenders, Bargain Hunt, Z-List Celebrities on Rollerskates). They're two distinct services.
Technology evolves at changing rates on different platforms. And sometimes it's the stumbling blocks that act as catalysts. If the BBC had insisted in waiting for a Win/Mac/Linux friendly solution, then right now none of us would have anything. As it happened, the BBC only launched the streaming iPlayer because of complaints that the download manager wasn't Mac/Linux compatible. So in a vague sort of way, we can thank Microsoft that we have anything at all right now.
iPlayer was probably conceived at the BBC several years ago. And back then, Microsoft DRM was probably the only game in town. The fact that the BBC is now moving away from Microsoft is kudos to them. Look at Channel 4's OD service for example... now that's something to get angry about!
Well I can't argue with that!!!
SL
BBC Worldwide is the commercial arm of the BBC. They manage the BBC Motion Gallery online. If there is anything which is to be sold rather than free, it would be passed automatically to BBC Worldwide, such as magazines sold in the UK. So the content can still be available in the UK, but it would be paid for.
I think it would be a great move for the BEEB.
I can see the dual approach of 1. the iPlayer catch up service for free - would be a boon for the appleTV! Then 2. the buy to own working through iTunes.
The BEEB do plenty of stuff in HD now - perhaps they will offer HD for purchase........
I can see the dual approach of 1. the iPlayer catch up service for free - would be a boon for the appleTV! Then 2. the buy to own working through iTunes.
The BEEB do plenty of stuff in HD now - perhaps they will offer HD for purchase........
As a British ex-pat I would jump at the chance to buy or rent BBC content via iTunes! (Currently I must buy DVDs. iTunes direct to my TV would be cool.)
An advertising-supported model would also be satisfactory. (We have that with BBC News Online now.)
The frustration/anger evident in some of the earlier posts relates to paying for BBC content when one is already a licence-fee payer. IMHO it is inconceivable that the BBC would single-out Mac users and make them pay for content.
TV would be cool.)An advertising-supported model would also be satisfactory. (We have that with BBC News Online now.)
The frustration/anger evident in some of the earlier posts relates to paying for BBC content when one is already a licence-fee payer. IMHO it is inconceivable that the BBC would single-out Mac users and make them pay for content.
Wait wait so.. Windows users get bbc shows for free download via iPlayer for a limited amount of time, but mac users have to pay for the shows via iTunes for a limited amount of time. Plus we have to pay £120 tv license fee every year. Ermm. WTF!
They are online now, cost £1.89 each so for shows with more than 6 shows more expensive than DVDs and its BBC worldwide doing it, with only 7 shows.
Yep it's there, little britain, torchwood, spooks, life on mars and few others. prices seem average, life on mars is CHEAPER than PLAY.com
Seems slow though perhaps they are still adding stuff.
No Doctor who yet.
But hey it's a start.
Spooks is episode 6 at £16.99 this isn't on DVD till october according to play.com and will cost £25.99 surely that is a bargain in anybodies eyes.
Looks as this might be quite good. keep them coming beeb!!!
Looks as this might be quite good. keep them coming beeb!!!
Not seeing them. Checked in UK and US iTunes stores. Where do I look? Any chance of a screenshot?
SL
