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Beats 1 to Include Programming Blocks From Celebrities Like Elton John, Pharrell, and Dr. Dre

i wonder how upset the notorious perfectionist Reznor was at the manner in which Apple Music was launched... hell, they should have had Trent do the presentation instead of that s. show we got with Cue and Drake.
 
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With the DJ talent and the famous names they've got on board, if this doesn't get people listening to radio again then nothing will.

I hope they fit in a metal or indie music hour!
 
I wonder how bad taste is going to affect Apple Music on the long-run. It might win them over teenagers with crappy tastes but on the long-term I'm not sure music is one of those domain where crap music is a good strategy.
 
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I'm still not sure how beats 1 is going to promote unsigned artists any better than indie radio stations and music podcasters are already doing. Podcasts like Darkcompass.com have been curating and playing unsigned and indie music for over ten years.

I suppose only time and ratings will tell.
 
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Its amusing, I find, that they present it as if these people - Lowe, Reznor etc. - are actually responsible for something. My perspective is that they are more like paid frontmen, whilst the planning is done in the closed Cupertino boardrooms beforehand. Of course, they will put a little input in towards the end of the planning and actualising of the project but not to the extent to which they are presented. They will get paid well though, without a doubt, and gain the name and fame they yearn so much. Which incidentally goes to show just how much profit Apple are making out of this venture.
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Trent is yearning a name and fame? You don't think he already had both? He didn't need Apple. He was having a lot of success with his movie soundtracks and his career with NIN.

My perspective is Trent has felt strongly about the failings of the music industry for many a year. In particular the record labels and their out of date business models. He's been banging that drum for a long long time. I very much doubt he would add his name and image to a "reinvention" of the way we consume music if he didn't believe strongly in it's foundations and it's business model from an artists perspective. He just has no reason to do that unless he feels it's the solution he's felt the industry has needed. And it makes sense he'd do it with Apple. He's used their tech for decades. When Beat's was purchased he could have walked away but he stuck around.

Regarding Zane. He and Trent were always on good terms. Whenever Trent had a new album or whatever he'd appear on Zane's show over on Radio 1 and they'd do a long distance interview and then play a track. He clearly respected Zane for his work and for the show itself. So it made sense when I saw Zane had moved over to Apple.. that was clearly a direct suggestion from Trent.

We'll see. I hope they're involved deeply because I trust him and his view of music. I doubt he'd have directly promoted the service with himself in that video if he didn't believe 110% in the solution. He's not the type to just do that for money.
 
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Something I still don't understand about the Music Streaming Service: Does the three-month free trial period begin for everyone on the day the product is launched, and end for everyone exactly three months later? Or are we in control of the start date of our three-month free trial period? For example, if I don't want to start my free three months until July 15th, can I do that?
 
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Something I still don't understand about the Music Streaming Service: Does the three-month free trial period begin for everyone on the day the product is launched, and end for everyone exactly three months later? Or are we in control of the start date of our three-month free trial period? For example, if I don't want to start my free three months until July 15th, can I do that?
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I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that it's you start whenever you want to start, whether that be next week or next year.
 
vkd said:
Its amusing, I find, that they present it as if these people - Lowe, Reznor etc. - are actually responsible for something. My perspective is that they are more like paid frontmen, whilst the planning is done in the closed Cupertino boardrooms beforehand. Of course, they will put a little input in towards the end of the planning and actualising of the project but not to the extent to which they are presented. They will get paid well though, without a doubt, and gain the name and fame they yearn so much. Which incidentally goes to show just how much profit Apple are making out of this venture.
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I would guess that they're very much responsible. Apple could've got way more famous people than them if they just needed celebrity figureheads. Reznor and Lowe are both very proven and respected in their respective fields. Apple brought them on board for that reason. These guys are music industry vets that know what they're doing.


Edgar Spayce said:
I wonder how bad taste is going to affect Apple Music on the long-run. It might win them over teenagers with crappy tastes but on the long-term I'm not sure music is one of those domain where crap music is a good strategy.
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What do you consider crap music/good music ?
 
rctlr said:
I'm still not sure how beats 1 is going to promote unsigned artists any better than indie radio stations and music podcasters are already doing. Podcasts like Darkcompass.com have been curating and playing unsigned and indie music for over ten years.
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You're not sure how a high profile thing like Apple Music, instantly available on hundreds of millions of devices worldwide, with a massive launch campaign and the high profile and visibility it will have from Apple might better promote unsigned artists than a relatively unknown podcast?
 
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You're not sure how a high profile thing like Apple Music, instantly available on hundreds of millions of devices worldwide, with a massive launch campaign and the high profile and visibility it will have from Apple might better promote unsigned artists than a relatively unknown podcast?
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I've got no problem people telling us what to listen too because they think it's cool, but this will be another "radio station" advertising current artists and their wares.
I will put money on that Taylor Swift gets played in the first 24 hours, alongside Zanes all time favourites like The Foo Fighters and The Killers.

I think I'll stick with BBC Introducing and unknown Podcasts, and pay for the music direct to the artists through their websites. At least the known-unknowns will get something.
 
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I've got no problem people telling us what to listen too because they think it's cool, but this will be another "radio station" advertising current artists and their wares.
I will put money on that Taylor Swift gets played in the first 24 hours, alongside Zanes all time favourites like The Foo Fighters and The Killers.

I think I'll stick with BBC Introducing and unknown Podcasts, and pay for the music direct to the artists through their websites. At least the known-unknowns will get something.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if Swift and the Killers get played within the first 24 hours.

But I would also expect Zane, and other shows, to play just as much new stuff as he ever did at Radio 1.

I think you have to play both, just as they do on Radio 1 - so people tune in because they know they'll hear the likes of Swift or The Killers, but also hear a whole bunch of other stuff they might not otherwise have heard.

What actually would be a pretty great feature would be to be able to add a track playing on Beats 1 to your music. I quite often here stuff on Radio 1, and then go and find an album on Spotify and listen to it. Never underestimate the power of convenience, so the more seamless they can make all this the more sticky it will be for people.

Another thing I don't know if they'll do is make shows available to listen to again on demand after they have broadcast. I work at home and quite often listen to likes of Annie Mac or Huw Stephens during the day on catch up.
 
Is it just me or does Zane Lowe look a lot like Steve Jobs? The similiarity, especially on the picture linked in this post is striking. Also, "Zane <-> music lovers <-> Jobs", there's great connection there.

Looking forward to Apple Music, especially after the news that artists now get compensated for everything I listen to. That really has made an impression on me and not because of Taylor Swift, but just in general. There are so many great bands out there that you want to directly support. With streaming music you can do that just by clicking on their songs a couple of times. I am not sure if people actually realize this. It's perfect. Let's hope Apple Music delivers and the catalog is as close to the iTunes catalog as it gets and some additional goodies. If that's the case then Apple Music has a top-notch streaming service. Maybe in the future they will offer lossless upgrades for an additional $5, I would then buy it instantly without any hesitation.
 
johngordon said:
I think you have to play both, just as they do on Radio 1 - so people tune in because What actually would be a pretty great feature would be to be able to add a track playing on Beats 1 to your music. I quite often here stuff on Radio 1, and then go and find an album on Spotify and listen to it. Never underestimate the power of convenience, so the more seamless they can make all this the more sticky it will be for people.

Another thing I don't know if they'll do is make shows available to listen to again on demand after they have broadcast. I work at home and quite often listen to likes of Annie Mac or Huw Stephens during the day on catch up.
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BBCs Playlister has a function you can tag the songs being played and add them to a playlist for spotify. Apple would certainly need something like that for new/unsigned to get some traction whilst listening live. saw something similar during live performance on ituneslive last year.

As for on demand, that would be like, Erm, a podcast, with playlists.
Licensing that with labels could be another thing. Unsigned and indies love that.
 
johngordon said:
I think you have to play both, just as they do on Radio 1 - so people tune in because What actually would be a pretty great feature would be to be able to add a track playing on Beats 1 to your music. I quite often here stuff on Radio 1, and then go and find an album on Spotify and listen to it. Never underestimate the power of convenience, so the more seamless they can make all this the more sticky it will be for people.

Another thing I don't know if they'll do is make shows available to listen to again on demand after they have broadcast. I work at home and quite often listen to likes of Annie Mac or Huw Stephens during the day on catch up.
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BBCs Playlister has a function you can tag the songs being played and add them to a playlist for spotify. Apple would certainly need something like that for new/unsigned to get some traction whilst listening live. saw something similar during live performance on ituneslive last year.

As for on demand, that would be like, Erm, a podcast, with playlists.
Licensing that with labels could be another thing. Unsigned and indies love that.
 
rctlr said:
BBCs Playlister has a function you can tag the songs being played and add them to a playlist for spotify. Apple would certainly need something like that for new/unsigned to get some traction whilst listening live. saw something similar during live performance on ituneslive last year.

As for on demand, that would be like, Erm, a podcast, with playlists.
Licensing that with labels could be another thing. Unsigned and indies love that.
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I've never really used the Playlister, but yes - that's exactly the sort of thing I mean. But presumably would be that bit more convenient if it was all within iTunes / Apple Music rather than connecting a BBC account to a Spotify account.

With the on demand, I just meant listening to the shows again as you can for BBC Radio - I never really think of them as podcasts though, but what's in a name.
 
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