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But you are commenting on them right now. I'm telling you I'm listening to the new ones and you are telling me what I'm missing without even trying them.

The new Solo's have the same sound signature as the Studio Wireless Beat I bought in January, I know what they sound like, you are commenting on sound you have not heard yet. If it says anything about me it's that I don't assume things and apply broad judgements on things I have no knowledge of. I had heard the old beats and never bought them because they are artificially bass heavy even though I like tons of bass. I tried and bought the aforementioned ones because I didn't apply bias to the brand. And I'm glad I did.

I have tried the post monster Beats. Not impressed.

I was referring to the Solo2 as per this thread - And I would not judge them until I listen to them.

you can't be listening to them as they are not out yet - Pre-order
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Save a bunch and try a set of Audio Technica ATH-M50's.

I haven’t tried those, I’ll admit, but I should also point out that I only tried Beats when I was looking at a multitude of headphone options. Personally I’d never buy them, the genres the work for are far too limited. I just wanted to point out that they work just fine for some people, and if you spend all of your time listening to hip hop, I don’t think I’ve heard a better set of cans for it.

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Poor fools. Don't they know you can just do this?

Yeah, those equalizer settings usually make things worse. None of them give me the settings I would choose for those genres. To my ears, anyways.
 
I have tried the post monster Beats. Not impressed.

I was referring to the Solo2 as per this thread - And I would not judge them until I listen to them.

you can't be listening to them as they are not out yet - Pre-order
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Again, I never said I was listening to the solo2's. The new studios would sound better anyways. To each their own, I guess.
 
Call me crazy, but why is it necessary to spend hundreds of dollars for headphones? When did this become the trend? I get it that people want a quality listening experience, but the sheer number of these headphones on the market makes me wonder when this all happened.

If you had told me five years ago about a pair of $200 headphones, I would have said "good luck selling those," but it seems they're all over the place now, so apparently people buy them.

Yeah I know but Its called taking a great design and putting behind it great strategic marketing.
You may not know this but if you signed a record deal with Interscope Records you also signed a promoting agreement with beats, meaning all artist on the label must promote the beats product. You make a video you must include in that video beats headphones, do a photo shoot beats headphones will be somewhere visible in your pictures. If your signed artists are on the top 40 billboard charts you have some serious exposure thus making your headphone the pop culture must have thing. Jimmy I. is a very smart business man. This is the way billion dollar companies move.

(not @ you dpfenninger) Its simply comedy to read the various reactions from a bunch of ignorant side-line consumer-pedestrians complain about something they know absolutely nothing about. Take a business class, read some books, something...People here look dumb as door nobs when they accuse two multi billion dollar companies as making a bad move before the ink is even dry on the deal.

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I have tried the post monster Beats. Not impressed.

I was referring to the Solo2 as per this thread - And I would not judge them until I listen to them

Monster beats are absolutely horrid, all show and no go (it has to be their business model) Its like they do this on purpose, I mean look across their whole product line including their cables and eveything.

Post monter the sound is much better from beats.
 
Well, at least your racism wasn't indirect. I applaud you for being honest about who you are.

My comment wasnt directed at any one race, it was directed at everybody who fits what I said. Mostly the hip-hop or r&b crowd, regardless of race.
 
AptX is crap.

Hope next time you buy decent headphones that support direct AAC, which Apple has supported for years.

I like apt-x...but thanks for your opinion...:)

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But you are commenting on them right now. I'm telling you I'm listening to the new ones and you are telling me what I'm missing without even trying them.

The new Solo's have the same sound signature as the Studio Wireless Beat I bought in January, I know what they sound like, you are commenting on sound you have not heard yet. If it says anything about me it's that I don't assume things and apply broad judgements on things I have no knowledge of. I had heard the old beats and never bought them because they are artificially bass heavy even though I like tons of bass. I tried and bought the aforementioned ones because I didn't apply bias to the brand. And I'm glad I did.

Hey, you don't seem to realize the headphone police have declared the issue settled. If you like the sound of Beats (either the new or the old) or the look or style, you don't know anything about sound or style (and it appears those attributes are mutually exclusive) so shut up...The "experts" have spoken...deal with it!!!!
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Just don't get your hopes up of Apple supporting a mediocre codec to fly between their devices and cheapo stuff that doesn't support AAC.

Again, thanks for looking out for me...I'll be more careful what I hope for. ;)
IIRC, Beats wireless support AAC
"Beats Wireless headphones support SBC, AAC, Apt-X Bluetooth Codecs."
 
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I'd rather have in-ear headphones. Over the ear ones are to big, to take to the gym. Beats knows how to market though. They have, so many people willing to pay $200+ for headphones
I prefer in ear also.I dislike the sound quality of beats plus people look like they're walking around with DJ headphones on. The other day I was on the subway next to a guy with those Beats things on and could hear clearly all of his music,really quite annoying and rude.
 
People haven't actually used Beats they are just pilling on because subconsciously its a way for them to hate minorities without being direct about it. If Dr. Dre had no involvement with these head phones people would be talking about how great they are because of all the bass.

The tech world has become more overt in it's racist undertones. That's largely because black people have not been involved in the tech revolution as much as other minorities have.

The blues root to rock music is black music.
Motown and Detroit Techno are black music. (Eminem's "nobody listens to techno" dig at Moby was so ironic it's like he wanted RAP to be an acronym for Retard Attempting Poetry).
Chicago House is black music.
New York Garage (or as anyone who knows that 2step UK stuff just hijacked the genre name calls it, Garage) is black music.
Jazz is black music.
Rap is black music.

Mix any number of those genres together and it's simply a combination of black music.

YOU'RE racist for thinking people reject a product because ethnicity is an issue FOR YOU.

Anyone determined to reject beats on racial grounds wouldn't really have a lot to listen to on whatever products they do buy if they were that determined to stick to their bigoted guns :)
 
Again, thanks for looking out for me...I'll be more careful what I hope for. ;)
IIRC, Beats wireless support AAC
"Beats Wireless headphones support SBC, AAC, Apt-X Bluetooth Codecs."
Looks like you have found yourself some. Enjoy! You're welcome!
 
People haven't actually used Beats they are just pilling on because subconsciously its a way for them to hate minorities without being direct about it. If Dr. Dre had no involvement with these head phones people would be talking about how great they are because of all the bass.

The tech world has become more overt in it's racist undertones. That's largely because black people have not been involved in the tech revolution as much as other minorities have.

Wow, you're just hell bent about this, aren't you? Claiming anyone that calls Dre a thug, which is exactly what he is somehow makes you racist. Like getting mad for calling a Chevy a car or a dishwasher a kitchen appliance. Dre could be the whitest guy on the planet and he's still just a gangsta thug. Just please stop it.

And Beats headphones are terrible. Those buying them don't care about sound quality they just wanna be "cool" like the minions in the music videos.
 
And Beats headphones are terrible. Those buying them don't care about sound quality they just wanna be "cool" like the minions in the music videos.

According to the review that started this discussion they have become slightly less terrible. Before you heard nothing but 'bass' (whatever that might be) but now you can hear other parts of the music as well:

but you can also clearly pick up other elements -- things like hi-hats, snares and others

It doesn't convey the impression these things have some kind of coherent 'sound' (and the best even have no discernible 'sound' at all).
 
Wow, you're just hell bent about this, aren't you? Claiming anyone that calls Dre a thug, which is exactly what he is somehow makes you racist. Like getting mad for calling a Chevy a car or a dishwasher a kitchen appliance. Dre could be the whitest guy on the planet and he's still just a gangsta thug. Just please stop it.

And Beats headphones are terrible. Those buying them don't care about sound quality they just wanna be "cool" like the minions in the music videos.

I like how you avoided my earlier post about you calling Dre a "thug"... I'll just post it again - no edit:

The comments about Dres thuggery aren't ignorant. They're fact. Just like the fact that the dood has songs that advocate murdering police officers and everything else. You think these angry rappers are writing about feely good love stories? Talk about ignorant..... :rolleyes:

Actually, yes what you said is very ignorant.

He is an artist that grew up in an area where he and those just like him were constantly profiled by police since they could walk. His friends (who were in the same scenario) were constantly frustrated with this way of life and they used art to get out their frustrations. Are you telling me that minority artists are the only ones without creative license to do so? I mean, Dre never shot anyone, never killed anyone. He worked hard. Got into an industry that usually chews young kids like him and spits them out and made a success of himself.

So he isn’t afforded the creative license so easily afforded to white artists? Johnny cash can sing about “shot(ing) a man in Reno, just to watch him die” and he’s a folk hero and music legend. Billy Joel can sing “Goodnight Saigon” without serving even one tour but there is no issues there. Hell, that jackass Ted Nugent can – not even in lyrics, in between songs – openly talk about shooting Obama and no one actually thinks he’s going out and looking for an opportunity to kill the President (it was just bad taste). I can list hundreds of lyrics white artists have recorded where creative licence is afforded to them without having them held accountable for each and every line they have ever wrote.

However that does not get extended to hip hop. If you mention drugs, you are a drug dealer (though Sinatra talks about doing coke in “I get a Kick out of you” in a very casual way), if you mention guns, your a murderer (Foster for the People’s “Pumped up kicks” has a line warning potential victims to "outrun my gun" and that they "better run, better run, faster than my bullet.”). Hip hop, and those that use it as a means to tell their story, ones like their’s or highlight social issues both personal or observed need to – for some reason – be held accountable for truth in every line they write.

These “angry rappers” as you eloquently put it, are “angry” because they are held to a different bar than other artists (and people) are simply because they are either different or they aren’t creating your cup of tea. They are “angry” because even when they succeed, they are held back.
 
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A quick story about a recent Customer Service experience:

About 3 years ago I bought my Mom (whose hearing isn't that great anymore) a pair of Sennheiser HD428 headphones for her tv watching as she was having some problems hearing the rather smallish speakers on her Vizio tv in her bedroom. The HD428's retailed at the time for about $100.00. They have a long thin cable (not much thicker than the one on the standard iPhone EarPods), are single ear-corded which worked well for her (light and easy to maneuver, no tangles) and she loved that the HD428's sound great, and are very light and comfortable (she could wear them for hours without ear fatigue)

Having worked in commercial radio all around the world, and the recording industry for nearly 30 years using their products both at work (where I was required to wear headphones sometimes for 8 to 10 hours straight) and at home, I came to greatly appreciate the quality of Sennheiser Professional Audio Design Products and knew much of the same build quality and technology carried over to their consumer division...I felt confident the Sennheiser's would work out well for her.

A few weeks ago my Mom told me that the sound was only coming out of one ear. I took a look and sure enough the wired connection out of the left ear pad was shorting (again, they are single wire phones). I called Sennheiser CS and even though the headphones are well out of the generous two year warranty, they are sending a replacement pair to her for free without me even sending the old ones back, no questions asked, no proof of purchase no emailing and printing RMA labels. (It would have been very easy for them to just tell me the headphones were well out of warranty and I'd have to pay to ship them and have them repaired, that is what most companies would do today and honestly, it was what I expected to hear). Now THAT is standing behind your product with outstanding customer service.

Congratulations to Sennheiser for going above and beyond the standard CS effort I unfortunately so often experience today, especially when a product is out of warranty. It is no wonder this company has the stellar reputation it has...Great products and outstanding customer service...well earned! I HIGHLY recommend Sennheiser to anyone looking for quality headphones for any usage as both their professional series and consumer line products and service are about as good as it.
 
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owwww dear....

some American brands...... I did not check them all, just googled it

Crown, Ampex, Audio Research, Vac, DBX, ADC, Stanton, Krell, Harman Kardon, Dolby Labs, Marantz, Martin Logan, Fisher, JBL, Boston Acoustics, Klipsch, McIntosh, Conrad-Johnson, Atma-Sphere, Magnepan, Pass Labs, Vandersteen, Grado, Eminent Technology, KLH, Manley Labs, Westone, Shure, Ultimate Ears, Kloss, H.H. Scott, Dynaco, Stromberg-Carlson, Usher, NuForce, Acoustic Research, Acutex, American Audio, Audax, Audioquest, Alesis, Altec Lansing, Rek-O-Kut, Brush, Bellari,Channel Islands, Coloney, Concept, Denneson, Dexter, Dynamic Sound, Empire, Fairchild, Focusrite, Gates, G.E, Gentner, Graham, Gray Research, Herron, Hunt EDA, Immedia, Infinity, Jeff Roland, Lexicon, Linkwitz Lab, Magnavox, Mark Levinson, Meitner, Micro-Acoustics, Micro-Trak, Mitchell A Cotter, Modular Component Systems, Monolithic Sound, Music Hall, Netronics, Nitty Gritty, Numark, Pickering, Rabco, Rane, RCA, Realistic, Robins, RTS Systems, Russco, Sherwood, Sonographe, Sonus, Souther, Teres, THX, VPI, Wavelength Audio, Well Tempered, Wheaton,
As much as I know sonus is French and I have a doubt about some other brands
 
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