Apple built a house with a proper front door. Quit trying to use the window to come in.
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Beeper Mini on Continued Outages: 'It's Super Annoying That Apple is Penalizing Their Own Customers'
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I’m sure some of those Apple customers are messaging with Android customers.
I don’t mind Apple doing this, it’s their service, it cost money to run it, they should shut it down if they want. But, I wish they were honest about why, they just need to be honest and say, “it cost us money to give this service away” and not “it’s a security reason”
I've never really cared about the color of bubbles. It's only a small group that cares about it.
I feel weird about this because I enjoy them reverse engineering iMessage but I also think they have zero right to do this. I'm not saying they should be sued, but I don't think Apple is in the wrong for shutting it down repeatedly. Their goal here is to charge money to be a middleman to a service they don't own and are utilizing for free... I would be almost entirely on Beeper's side if they weren't planning to charge a subscription for it in the future.
Apple cannot have an entirely closed messaging ecosystem when they have over 1.46 BILLION iPhone users in the world.
I’m amazed that no one has fought harder for interoperability until now.
Decades ago Trillian came onto the scene and attempted to create a unified messenger that enabled MSN, Yahoo, AIM and IRC messaging all in one app.
The only ones that fought hard against it were AOL for AIM. Where are they now? LOL
And who uses any of those messengers anymore?
Blackberry messenger was also proprietary and where is it now?
You can’t own the whole world. This is why Apple finally caved in and has agreed to support enhanced messaging via the open protocols that Android and other mobile systems use.
I’m amazed that no one has fought harder for interoperability until now.
Decades ago Trillian came onto the scene and attempted to create a unified messenger that enabled MSN, Yahoo, AIM and IRC messaging all in one app.
The only ones that fought hard against it were AOL for AIM. Where are they now? LOL
And who uses any of those messengers anymore?
Blackberry messenger was also proprietary and where is it now?
You can’t own the whole world. This is why Apple finally caved in and has agreed to support enhanced messaging via the open protocols that Android and other mobile systems use.
They don’t seem to understand what “unauthorized access” is.
Or, they’re simply doing it as a publicity stunt to say “see! apple is a bully!”
Or, they’re simply doing it as a publicity stunt to say “see! apple is a bully!”
apple is not penalizing its own customers, it’s penalizing the leeches that want to benefit from its proprietary service without owning an apple product.
Or they’re so self-centered that they don’t care about unauthorized access?
The people stealing Apple’s code are not Apple’s customers.
Exactly. iMessage is designed for Apple devices. And this company was leeching off of Apple’s services (without Apple’s consent or paying Apple for the use of said services), and then charging for it.
iMessage in my iPhone is working just fine BEEPER..
Not being penalized by Apple at all..
Thanks.
Not being penalized by Apple at all..
Thanks.
OK the more this guy says the less I respect him. He’s just playing dumb now.
Unless he means he paid Apple and Apple agreed to provide iMessage service to Beeper Mini users, he’s just making things up.
Hilarious all the people who hate Tim Sweeney but root for this guy. In the end it’s the exact same thing. He wants to profit off a service Apple created and maintains without compensating Apple for it. Even worse in this case really.
Unless he means he paid Apple and Apple agreed to provide iMessage service to Beeper Mini users, he’s just making things up.
Hilarious all the people who hate Tim Sweeney but root for this guy. In the end it’s the exact same thing. He wants to profit off a service Apple created and maintains without compensating Apple for it. Even worse in this case really.
Probably one of the most disingenuous and bad faith tech bros in the business right now, and that’s hard to do considering X exists
Same here. I just took a look at the beeper website and it looks like the Beeper crew are praising Beeper Mini features that are actually iMessage features. Even the first sentence on their website talks about how everyone can have blue bubbles now.
Takes a lot of nerve to build a business model based solely on ripping off another company and subjecting their users to less than trustworthy privacy and security, and then pitch a bitch fit when the company you’re taking advantage of stops you. Is this beeper company based in china? Their level of respect for intellectual property would suggest so.
Not sure Beeper Mini's approach is the correct one, but as a person who uses both Apple and Android devices, having a consistent messaging system that isn't owned by Meta or Google across my devices would be nice.
How am I being penalized when I have an iPhone and can still communicate with my friends just fine lmao
Y’all are sad
Y’all are sad
Who’s to say beepers method DOES still provided E2EE? Nothing and Sunbird’s attempt sure as **** didn’t, even though they vociferously claimed to.
This absolutely does affect iPhone users, if their devices are tricked into thinking the other device they’re communicating with is an iPhone but really is some android hack job with god knows what level of insight given to the company making it possible on the android’s end. If you can’t trust that your iMessages are going to iPhones, rather than to androids where some third party is helping facilitate their delivery, that 100% introduces a level of risk, and it devalues iMessage as a service because it’s less trustworthy if someone can pretend to have an iPhone. See: nothing storing message content in plaintext.
If you’re so vain that you NEED blue bubbles, buy a damn iPhone, it’s not this serious.
If FaceTime and iMessage are truly that important to you, then you will just buy an iPhone.