Belkin card for G4 TiBook

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  1. CooperBox, May 6, 2018
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    I'd been looking around for an airport 'Extreme' PCMCIA card for a TiBook, and referred back to Eyoungren's informative previous post HERE.
    I took note of the Belkin F5D7010 ref with either rev 1315 or 1112, and have just seen this one at 5euros (6US$).

    Belkin 1.jpg Belkin 2.jpg

    You will note that the P/No is F5D7010fr but the revision is 1314fr
    I can see no ref to 'Broadcom' but note that there is a MAC ref# on the rear of the card.
    @eyoungren or Another:- Would you consider this to be a suitable card for the intended use?
     
  2. bobesch, May 6, 2018
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    Not exactly the answer to your question, but a combination of a USB2-PCMCIA-Card with the Edimax-Mini-Wifi-Stick does a good job on my TiBook with Tiger. The Edimax would also work with the inbuild USB-ports, but traffic then has to run through the USB1-bottleneck.
    (Doesn't work with os9, since there are no drivers for the Edimax...)

    TiBook USB2PCMCIA Edimax.jpg TiBook USB2PCMCIA.JPG USB2PCMCIA Edimax.jpg

    https://www.edimax.com/edimax/merch...imax/global/wireless_adapters_n150/ew-7811un/
    You'll find the Edimax drivers/App for OS X 10.4 - 10.12 in the Download-section. It's a nice option since you may also the adapter to other devices without PC-Card-slot (iMacG3/4 and Clamshell etc.) and in addition the TiBook gets USB2.0 too.
     
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    No.

    The "Mac" reference you see is an entirely different thing.

    That's the MAC address for the card. Every device that connects to the internet has it's own specific hardware address so that it can be identified. That address is called the MAC address. Your average PowerPC Mac will have two or three such MAC addresses. One for Airport, one for Ethernet and one for modem (if equipped).

    (M)edia (A)cess (C)ontrol address.
    See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
     
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    Your comments have been noted. Many thanks.

    @eyoungren: I take it that your "no" comment refers to my misunderstanding of the card's mac address, and not that the card would be unsuitable.
     
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    The card is not suitable.

    You need the correct firmwares that I noted in the post you linked. The card will technically work, but you will need Ralink drives to make it work and it won't be anything like using Airport natively.

    Every time you would want to use the card you need to use the software to tell it to connect.
     
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    Ok, that's clear. Thank you.
     
  8. weckart, May 7, 2018
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    A bit of googling shows me that this card has a VID and PID of 14e4,4320 which marks it as a Broadcom card, which is what I expected, as it has the correct yellow label. The Ralink cards look different as per my picture above.

    Logically, the firmware revision of 1314, just before a known BCM firmware of 1315 makes it unlikely to be anything but the same hardware.
    I am guessing that 1314fr is France firmware (different WiFi channels open) and 1315 is US.
     
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    Thanks for this. At only a few bucks that card may be worth taking a gamble on after all.
     
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    im not sure where you are thinking the card @CooperBox card needs the Ralink drivers? it is is a Broadcom based card which actually does have an OS X compatible Device ID as noted by @weckart , you can see the 4320 listed in the AirPort kext in tiger in the screen shot bellow, also saying a Broadcom card needs Ralink drivers is like saying "That ATI card needs nvidia drivers" doesn't make much sense does it? :confused: on top of all of that generally the cards firmware does not matter too much when it comes to OS X compatibility the main thing to worry about is the cards Device ID

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    @CooperBox with this info in mind id be fairly confident that that the card you posted about (F5D7010fr) would work fine with your TiBook in OS X :)
     
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    I'm thinking that the only two firmwares I saw when I first searched for this so many years ago that were compatible were the two listed in that thread.

    Everything I looked up at the time said other than those two firmwares you would have to use a third party app to connect.

    While I extrapolated and named Ralink, it doesn't really matter. It could have been any third party app and drivers. But Ralink was the stuff I tried the last time I tried a USB WiFi stick and it's consistantly mentioned here when it comes to WiFi devices that are not native to Mac.

    If all this is in error, then I blame the articles I read so many years back.
     

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