Don't need to use it to know how tortured dongle solutions are... just look at the MacBooks with the single USB port. That'll give you an idea.
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Belkin's $40 Lightning Adapter Lets You Listen to Music and Charge Your iPhone 7 at the Same Time
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Don't need to use it to know how tortured dongle solutions are... just look at the MacBooks with the single USB port. That'll give you an idea.
Oh, right, that's fair, so how long have you been using the nMB for? I haven't used one of those either, so it's hard to make that connection personally.
You nailed it, they're all liars. Tim Cook and Phil Schiller are both profiteering liars.
I don't think so. I'll have to carry around a wireless charging station. No improvement, unfortunately.
What do you even mean by that? Do you even know?
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Maybe the 80% of the people on this site who are saying they would?
It's been a few years since I've used bluetooth for music, but back then, it was terrible. Is it on par with sound quality you'd get from a 3.5mm jack?
It could be if Apple is using AAC, and third parties license it.
However, you're talking about an older automobile with only a 3.5mm jack in the radio. Chances are you wouldn't be able to tell whether the BT was better or worse than a 3.5mm output in that environment.
I'm not sure a 2008 vehicle equipped with a ~2010 non-factory radio and non-factory speakers is really all that old. Back at the time when I could use the USB port on my radio with my iPhone (before lightning), there was only a small difference between it and the sound quality from the 3.5mm jack, it's really quite nice.
WOW ARENT YOU PRETENTIOUS AND FULL OF FINANCIAL ADVICE?
We can debate all we want. The removal of the headphone jack without a substantial bump in battery life, creates problems for many users. Can people adapt? Sure they can. And will they? Well most likely. Because apple is controlling and calling the shots. It is however a very anti consumer move that apple just made. But if their "courage" pays off, apple will get HELLA PAID. Everything points to them making out very well $$$ wise. People will buy bluetooth headsets (many of which will be beats or airpods), and other companies now have to pay to play to make a lightning based product. And now apple has all the control of their ecosystem. Good for apple, for the consumer? Zero benefit. People need to stop acting like it is something different than it is.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. A lot of market research was done over how often an earphone jack is used by a customer to justify their specs for the iPhone 7 line.
Upper end iPhone consumers have been migrating to wireless headphones for over ten years now. A year and a half ago, it came to a tipping point of those that matter are moving to wireless headsets with little concern about using an audio jack. Getting rid of the jack, made more space for a bigger battery and longer charge life. THAT is something very desired by the customer base.
This forum and responses within are just another demonstration of the rule, "Ignore the low income loudmouth, they never get you rich."
I expect huge disruption in those markets where long term sales forecasts are useless.
Just realized if I needed to give a presentation with audio using my iPhone 7, and the Apple Lightning to VGA adapter, I would need to do this:
... And I'm not even sure it would work.
... And I'm not even sure it would work.
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I was wondering the same thing as well. There are times when I play audio files or videos from my iPhone and it necessitates me plugging in the audio jack to get sound.Just realized if I needed to give a presentation with audio using my iPhone 7, and the Apple Lightning to VGA adapter, I would need to do this:
... And I'm not even sure it would work.
Ah well, that's what the Apple TV is for.
The Lighting connector wired protocol is quite robust to cascade like that. I'm sure a third party lighting device with more ports will come out soon.Just realized if I needed to give a presentation with audio using my iPhone 7, and the Apple Lightning to VGA adapter, I would need to do this:
... And I'm not even sure it would work.
Just realized if I needed to give a presentation with audio using my iPhone 7, and the Apple Lightning to VGA adapter, I would need to do this:
... And I'm not even sure it would work.
You're distorting this Mac and leading yourself into a depressed state over nothing. The only thing that is different because of the iPhone 7 is that you would add a two inch adaptor that Apple gave you for free. All of your other gizmos would be the same were you to do something odd like try and use a cell phone instead of a laptop to give a presentation.
On a bigger level, something is wrong that you are sitting by your computer all day long trying to convince people that your life has forever changed for the worse because of the iPhone 7? You're letting the trollers lead you down all of these rabbit holes. Unlike the trollers, you seem sincere in your depressed state so we are trying to help, but we can't keep debunking these things that pop up out of your imagination or some troller on a comment site. Sooner or later you have got to relax and realize it won't really make a difference to you at all. Get a good night's sleep. In the morning I think you'll see what I mean and you'll feel better.
Did you not even read what you're replying to? It's not just the bulky 3.5mm adapter, it's also the $40 belkin adapter this thread is actually about that's required. It becomes a messy tangle of wires, and it's really not obvious if that will even work at all.
Well aren't you the pot calling the kettle black.
Apple worked closely with Belkin on this. The very existence of this adapter the day after the iPhone 7 was released demonstrates conclusively that Apple was aware that this was going to be a problem, and it was going to be necessary to resolve prior to the phones starting to ship.
So there's no point in debating whether it's something people need to do, Apple already KNEW customers did this, in significant enough numbers that they sought out Belkin and worked with them to make sure an adapter would be ready in time to solve the problem before it came up. And they used Belkin so as to avoid the appearance they made a mistake in removing the headphone jack by releasing a whole bevy of Apple adapters to replace the functionality they removed with the 3.5mm Jack, not to mention the cynical view that they removed the jack to charge customers for numerous adapters to provide the same functionality they lost.
Looks fragile, once scaled down to actual size.
Still, the last time I believed anybody when it came to "working closely with", it involved Star Trek The Next Generation Blu-Ray sets for seasons 2 and 4, the only two to be outsourced, and the handling was abysmal... no wonder sales stunk.
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Only when profiteering isn't involved...
Still, the last time I believed anybody when it came to "working closely with", it involved Star Trek The Next Generation Blu-Ray sets for seasons 2 and 4, the only two to be outsourced, and the handling was abysmal... no wonder sales stunk.
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I thought we were supposed to avoid this . . .
Only when profiteering isn't involved...
Apple worked closely with Belkin on this. The very existence of this adapter the day after the iPhone 7 was released demonstrates conclusively that Apple was aware that this was going to be a problem, and it was going to be necessary to resolve prior to the phones starting to ship.
So there's no point in debating whether it's something people need to do, Apple already KNEW customers did this, in significant enough numbers that they sought out Belkin and worked with them to make sure an adapter would be ready in time to solve the problem before it came up. And they used Belkin so as to avoid the appearance they made a mistake in removing the headphone jack by releasing a whole bevy of Apple adapters to replace the functionality they removed with the 3.5mm Jack, not to mention the cynical view that they removed the jack to charge customers for numerous adapters to provide the same functionality they lost.
Mac, time to give it a rest. We get it; Apple is evil and this is all a plot to screw their customers. You're right, the loss of the 3.5 plug will ruin your life; it's already put you into a downward spiral. We are worried what will happen to you when you uncover another of their plots and realize they only changed the cameras so you will have to buy a new case! Conniving bas*#%!!
Because you are a good guy, and Out of concern for.your health, the forum members will take up a collection and buy you a non-exploding Samsung phone so you can move on with your life and start fixing the damage Apple did to it.
Nah, I have the HDMI digital video dongle, and it's pretty solid. I suspect this is as well since they worked closely with Apple. This is essentially Apple's dongle anyway, put out through Belkin likely so it didn't look so bad with Apple replacing basic functionality the headphone jack afforded with a lot of extra dongles.
The shame is that Apple is already offering a much simpler, more direct solution, with their eternal battery case, which they could have included in the box as a passthrough on the Lightning charging cable. I was hoping that we would see that with the first unboxing, but Phil's stupid comment about using the Lightning Dock, followed by this Belkin adapter, pretty much confirm that's not the route they took.
So what were to happen if one were to put two EarPods in this and use it as say a headphone splitter?
Or two lightning chargers and possibly start a thermo nuclear war?
Or two lightning chargers and possibly start a thermo nuclear war?