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Benchmark Suggests iPhone 7 Plus Has 3GB RAM

randymac09 said:
That's $20,000,000 (per 10 million units sold) that someone would have to pay for. They're not going to increase the phone by $2 to cover that cost, so they would have to pay for it. And for what reason? Their 2gb phone from last year is still beating the new 8gb(6gb?) phones from this year. To be honest, I'm surprised they upped it at all.
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They upped it. Reminds me of this funny thing my Pastor said once when talking about charitable giving. He was making the point that he should and was going to lead by example. About giving he said, "I upped mine so....up yours!"

In my opinion,  is simply gonna do what they wanna do -- we all know it and we still love their products. Would it be cool for them to release a new phone at last year's prices with 16gb Ram and 1tb storage in "Quark Blue"? Hellz yeah! But they didn't and won't unless/until that configuration solves a problem.
 
iPad Pro 12.9" -> 4GB
iPad Pro 9.7" -> 2GB
iPhone 6S/6SPlus -> 2GB

Strange that they would throw in an extra gig of ram over the 6S and 9.7" ProPad. Only reason I can think of is to handle the large amount of image processing while using the dual cameras.
 
d5aqoëp said:
3GB RAM is nothing to get excited about. Androids are soon moving from 6GB to 8GB.

Don't give me the bullcrap that ohh iOS is teh mozt optimizzzed OS.

I believe they have still tried to be a miser and given just 3 instead of 4.

Reminds me of budget Androids with 750 MB or 1.5 GB odd figured RAM sizes.[/Fanboy Denial Syndrome again. The 6S runs rings around all those Android makers. Even with 8GB THEY CANT BE ANYTHING OF APPLE. Ad Droid is really a advertising platform to assault users like you, low information folks who have duped by a Massive Advertising campaign run by Samsung, I really feel bad for you. You have been suckerd so badly. Nothing Android has will come close to the A10, next year included, go whine in Android Centrel.....
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Feenician said:
A blanket statement like that kinda hurts your credibility but I'll bite. In what sense is the S7 better than the iphone 7/7+?

I have a feeling that I'm going to get the usual "QUAD HD AMOLED, real multitasking, widgets..." etc. list that gets copied and pasted around this (ostensible) Mac/Apple forum 100 times a day but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
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The answer will be nuanced I think but you can probably look to the 6s/6s+ for answers. The greater number of pixels will hurt the plus in some types of tests.
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Even if 3 vs 2 GB RAM?
 
PJWilkin said:
System information : ARM @ 396 Mhz - 2 Processors

Obviously this version of GeekBench can't handle the new A10 processor,
I suspect a new version of the software is needed
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Does the iPhone ever let geekbench see the frequency?
 
weup togo said:
It would cost Apple less than $2 to put 4GB in every device. Apple hardware design is nearly always compromised in some stupid way by beancounters.
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I doubt its about the $2 but more about less memory using less battery as other people, much smarter
than I have already said! heh my .02
 
adamjackson said:
That settles it, going Plus this time around. Phablet, here I come...sigh. Held out a while though but the reasons are just too great.


Well, I gotta buy a larger X-Grip for my motorcycle and ProClip for my Golf R but other than that, I'm sold.

Oh and I"ll have to replace my GroveMade iPhone dock since the 7 Plus won't fit. Sigh. that dock was overpriced anyway.
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Look at all that product placement. Not saying you're getting paid, but, well, those are some specific names you just dropped. :confused:
 
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weup togo said:
It would cost Apple less than $2 to put 4GB in every device. Apple hardware design is nearly always compromised in some stupid way by beancounters.
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When you sell 200 million phones, that extra $2 turns into $400,000,000. That's more than bean counting, that's just smart, especially considering it's almost impossible to use up even 2 gb of ram on an iPhone.
 
weup togo said:
It would cost Apple less than $2 to put 4GB in every device. Apple hardware design is nearly always compromised in some stupid way by beancounters.
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Well, iFixit claims that the cost at scale is eight and a half times what you quote for half the amount you are talking about.
You'll pardon me if I take their word over yours I hope?
 
Sorry guys. I did not mean to troll. Just express my disappointment at inclusion of 3 GB instead of 4 GB.

The Apps and websites are getting huge. 2 GB will already be a bottleneck by the start of next year. 4 GB would have been do-able for the Plus model.

The tests in which iPhone 6S destroys Galaxy Note 7 are mostly CPU/GPU based. Snapdragon 820 is a very bad SOC and the tests show.

I want to see if there are any tests which show app in memory holding capacity between 2 GB iPhones and 4/6 GB androids.
There was similar test comparing 2GB 6S with 4GB iPad Pro. The Pro had significant advantage and multitasked like a desktop PC.
 
d5aqoëp said:
Sorry guys. I did not mean to troll. Just express my disappointment at inclusion of 3 GB instead of 4 GB.

The Apps and websites are getting huge. 2 GB will already be a bottleneck by the start of next year. 4 GB would have been do-able for the Plus model.

The tests in which iPhone 6S destroys Galaxy Note 7 are mostly CPU/GPU based. Snapdragon 820 is a very bad SOC and the tests show.

I want to see if there are any tests which show app in memory holding capacity between 2 GB iPhones and 4/6 GB androids.
There was similar test comparing 2GB 6S with 4GB iPad Pro. The Pro had significant advantage and multitasked like a desktop PC.
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Right... If 2GB isn't enough to load a web site, then maybe that's a web site I'll avoid permanently hey.
Seriously. I've run servers serving tens of thousands (I'm not even talking web servers...) on less than half a gigabyte. And that's after 2000, in the 1990s well, we could do a hell of a lot more.

Android's a piece **** that can't even work correctly on 4GB. Tabs are reloaded with with 2GB more that says it all.

My desktop PC which is supposedly much faster than my 6s browses SLOWER.
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Tycho24 said:
Well, iFixit claims that the cost at scale is eight and a half times what you quote for half the amount you are talking about.
You'll pardon me if I take their word over yours I hope?
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Not only that, you actually have access this memory, have it of the highest quality in massive volumes.
Supposedly Apple's already maxing world wide memory and storage production capacities and people want to create this capacity magically.
 
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randymac09 said:
That's $20,000,000 (per 10 million units sold) that someone would have to pay for. They're not going to increase the phone by $2 to cover that cost, so they would have to pay for it. ...
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You're right, Apple raised the price by $20 to cover the ram increase in the 7+
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Feenician said:
Good job on linking a near 5 year old article that is now spectacularly wrong. Background Refresh, have you heard of it? Among other things you can register for periodic network updates and do a keep-alive on things lie, oh, SSH sessions. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about and pasting 5 year old articles makes you look silly.

None of the above changes the fact that relying solely on kernel level threading and time-slicing for multitasking on today's mobile devices is naive and poor engineering. One of the more shameful parts of Android, among many.

btw with split screen (not slide over) both apps are truly running all their threads normally too. "Real" multitasking, as you would have it.
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Is that why the Facebook app plays silent audio to stay in the background?
 
nviz22 said:
Lmao. We haven't even seen the next Nexii devices or the S8. The 7+ might have a higher benchmark, but that doesn't mean jack.
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Your talking about completely different years, you need to compare phones that were launched within the same year, so if Samsung release the 7 in feb and Apple release theirs in September, why would you compare a Samsung that's launched the following year in February? No really a comparison
 
Tycho24 said:
Well, iFixit claims that the cost at scale is eight and a half times what you quote for half the amount you are talking about.
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That was last year's estimated cost for 2GB when LPDDR4 was new. This year 4GB LPDDR4 should cost the same as last year's 2GB if not less since it's more widely produced.

From experience, having more DRAM is good for future proofing since OS updates tend to be heavier with every update and you want to avoid your device becoming obsolete because of limited DRAM and no headroom. My device from 2012 with 2GB DRAM still runs great today without annoying app and browser tab reloads. A device in 2016 should have a minimum of 4GB although 6GB is preferred for future proofing.
 
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Zirel said:
The bare minimum to be the #1 seller is 2GB as it seems, sorry to burst your bubble.
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Honey, with an iOS market share of ~25% to Android's ~65%, hardly #1. 4GB should be the minimum. Anything less is Apple being cheap.
 
More ram is good, but why 3GB on the Plus only? I can understand the dual camera needs more space so it is an exclusive of the 5.5'' model but what about RAM? The SoC should be the same on both iPhones
 
Michael Goff said:
Does iOS need 4gb?
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Law of Coding states that more features means more lines of code and higher resource requirements. Features like being able to personalize placement of icons anywhere on the home screen, default apps, split view, PiP, background multitasking, etc. will require more resources. Knowing how well iPP 12.9 runs with 4GB and how iPP 9.7 crashes with 2GB it's safer to go with 4GB or more.
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recoil80 said:
More ram is good, but why 3GB on the Plus only? I can understand the dual camera needs more space so it is an exclusive of the 5.5'' model but what about RAM? The SoC should be the same on both iPhones
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Sounds like you're not familiar with 'upselling'. Same reason jet black is only available with 128GB or 256GB.
 
smacrumon said:
Yes, iOS bloats year on year.
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And yet the Air 2 with 2gb of RAM works better with iOS 10 than 9.

mi7chy said:
Law of Coding states that more features means more lines of code and higher resource requirements. Features like being able to personalize placement of icons anywhere on the home screen, default apps, split view, PiP, background multitasking, etc. will require more resources. Knowing how well iPP 12.9 runs with 4GB and how iPP 9.7 crashes with 2GB it's safer to go with 4GB or more.
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Sounds like you're not familiar with 'upselling'. Same reason jet black is only available with 128GB or 256GB.
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And on a phone? iPads are laptop replacements, so obviously RAM is needed in larger amounts.
 
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