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benefits of glass edge to edge
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Anti-Glare is easier to clean than glass because they don't streak, and fingerprints are easily removed. Just dip the corner of a microfiber cloth in warm water, wring it out and wipe the screen. Dry it, and you're done.
The edge-to-edge glass is much easier to clean and it's much more difficult to scratch while doing so. A finger print on a matte display is almost impossible to remove without some cleaning product, and you have to be super careful not to scratch it, and even then it's impossible to perfectly get rid of all the streaks of the cleaning product. On glass, you don't need to use any cleaning product since a micro fibre cloth is enough. I think glass is a much higher quality material than plastic for that reason. Also, dust doesn't collect in the edges since there are no edges! Glass also doesn't reduce the contrast of your screen and provides unmodified colours, whereas the matt screen disperses light and makes colours a bit more grey, and reduces the difference between dark and bright colours.
The only "benefits" to glass edge to edge is aesthetics. If you like the look then you will "benefit" from this design... The real Benefit comes with the aluminum border on the matte design. NO FINGERPRINTS. When opening or closing you don't have to constantly wipe away your finger prints.
So, to clarify... You think the only benefit of edge-to-edge glass is aesthetic. You also think the big advantage of the aluminium border is that you don't get visible fingerprints (which is purely an aesthetic concern).
So, the benefit of each screen over the other is purely aesthetic.
Glad we cleared that one up
David
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Anti-glare is superior in many ways. Especially if you like to have lights on while using it
Anti-glare is superior in many ways. Especially if you like to have lights on while using it
It will most likely just be a choice for anyone who wants it and I expect them to bring the AG to the other computers in the line. Baseline will most likely be the glossy because its cheaper and then if you want the AG you pay the $25 difference...I believe it was $125 for HR-Glossy and $150 for HR-AG when I got my CTO mbp.
One thing people never talk about with the glass--the weight. On a 15" MBP, someone weighed both an AG and a standard one, and it's almost a third of a pound. That may not sound like much, but especially with the new Airs out I think Apple and its users are thinking about weight a lot.
I'll be very curious to see if there is a big revamp of the MBP that removes the optical drive--many people are wondering when that is coming. If that actually happens, I wouldn't be surprised if the glass goes as well, unless they can source something lighter that does the same thing.
I'll be very curious to see if there is a big revamp of the MBP that removes the optical drive--many people are wondering when that is coming. If that actually happens, I wouldn't be surprised if the glass goes as well, unless they can source something lighter that does the same thing.
I love the glossy bezel and screen and how they blend. The matte makes it look like the older MBPs
to sum up all the pros and cons that people usually throw around the longer this discussion goes.
AG
+no glare (bummer)
+for people who actually need to work
+more accurate colors for photo stuff
+looks more professional
-it is a addon and not the official design element
-it is not as easy to clean
-less contrast
Glare
+designy and works better for people who are looking for a In product rather than a workhorse
+easy to clean
+more rigid (in the middle possibly)
-you cannot simply ignore lighting and use it wherever you are.
-you need more display brightness -> less battery life on the road.
-at least in Germany there is a workplace regulation/ordinance (not sure about the right translation) that says no glare screen on a workplace because of health reasons, as glare can cause headaches.
My personal opinion. It all comes down to what you are looking for. If the notebook is a tool for work than you go AG, if it is something fancy like a big TV for you or a nice watch or something you probably want the glass.
The former is simply because glare no matter how much it affects you is annoying, and with AG you simply don't have to put up with it.
AG
+no glare (bummer)
+for people who actually need to work
+more accurate colors for photo stuff
+looks more professional
-it is a addon and not the official design element
-it is not as easy to clean
-less contrast
Glare
+designy and works better for people who are looking for a In product rather than a workhorse
+easy to clean
+more rigid (in the middle possibly)
-you cannot simply ignore lighting and use it wherever you are.
-you need more display brightness -> less battery life on the road.
-at least in Germany there is a workplace regulation/ordinance (not sure about the right translation) that says no glare screen on a workplace because of health reasons, as glare can cause headaches.
My personal opinion. It all comes down to what you are looking for. If the notebook is a tool for work than you go AG, if it is something fancy like a big TV for you or a nice watch or something you probably want the glass.
The former is simply because glare no matter how much it affects you is annoying, and with AG you simply don't have to put up with it.
I chose the AG screen for my 15" mbp because my workspace is usually by a window, and i also like going out to cafe's to work as well. At first i didnt like the face that the border was silver, but it grew on me! It just matches better i think.
One little annoying thing is that i have to constantly remind my friend who has a glossy MBP that she cant touch my screen!!!
Does anyone have any tips on cleaning an AG screen? what sort of solution would you guys recommend? Right now i just wipe it down with the cloth it came with, but its not very effective for fingerprints.
One little annoying thing is that i have to constantly remind my friend who has a glossy MBP that she cant touch my screen!!!
Does anyone have any tips on cleaning an AG screen? what sort of solution would you guys recommend? Right now i just wipe it down with the cloth it came with, but its not very effective for fingerprints.
One thing I noticed has not been mentioned on this thread about the glass, is it's primary function, as far as I understood it. Protection. I have the 13" MBP. About 4 months ago my girlfriend tripped, her elbow landed right on my MBP. I FREAKED OUT! I knew how much these kinda repairs costed...
Well I opened up the laptop and wouldn't you guess...the glass was cracked, but the screen was UNTOUCHED! Lucky me. So instead of going without a laptop until I coulld afford to replace a screen, I was able to keep using it, albeit with cracked glass, and I just bought the glass for $75 and replaced it following an online tutorial.
Note: I'd like to have anti-glare, but the benefits of said glass are well proven to me, so I'll be keeping it.
Well I opened up the laptop and wouldn't you guess...the glass was cracked, but the screen was UNTOUCHED! Lucky me. So instead of going without a laptop until I coulld afford to replace a screen, I was able to keep using it, albeit with cracked glass, and I just bought the glass for $75 and replaced it following an online tutorial.
Note: I'd like to have anti-glare, but the benefits of said glass are well proven to me, so I'll be keeping it.
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perhaps everyone experiences stuff differently, but i have a matte 23" cinema display that i hook my glossy 15" mbp into when i'm working at home. when competing with bright sunlight in the room i can't see either display worth ****
I have to agree. The colors just look a lot better with the glass screen and honestly, I have never had an issue with reflections making it hard to see so I actually prefer the glossy screen (but it seems I am in the minority here).
On top of that I much much much prefer a black border around my screens over any light colors like silver or white. Light colors as a frame tend to dull the colors of the screen where black tends to make color pop out a lot more (really the best color frame depends on the picture but when we are talking about tv/computer screens, the picture changes so black is neutral and tends to make more colors pop).
It's one reason I hate it when electronic manufacturers try to get people to want silver TVs (eventually they give up and go back to black TVs... it just looks a lot better. My TV was bought when silver was on the way out but the best compromise I could find was a black border but the rest of the TV was silver. I wish it were all black honestly but at least the frame is black).
Its primary function is aesthetics. Apple couldn't care less about protection. If it were there for protection they'd sell it separately instead of requiring that the entire screen assembly be replaced.
You don't seem biased.
At the Google office here plenty use MBP13s with no problems. I guess they don't do any actual work.
LOL You are probably right, but in any case the glass saved my screen so I still advocate it. That and I don't use my laptop outside where the glass really hinders it.