just bought an incase hard case and a Level 8 sleeve
Hard cases can fit inside the Level 8 and when I saw how much memory foam was in the level 8 (as opposed to the Thule which had a lining rather than cushions), I jumped. Bought an incase too. I know this will be super protected during my commutes to and from work. The NYC subways can be brutal with people crowding, pushing etc.