Best Artificial Intelligence Fiction

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  1. Huntn, Aug 9, 2015
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    ...stories featuring AI, but that does not have to be the primary subject. And several stories feature AI, but they primarily accept them as a routine part of technology, spending little time examining aspects, issues, or reasons behind conflicts with AI trying to take over, but I still included them cause I like them. :D What are your picks? If you need a memory jogger.

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    My alphabetized list in no particular order of worthiness:

    *Ex Machina (2015)- Incredible example of the danger prevalent in advance A.I. A brilliant film. (Added Jan 2016).
    *2001 A Space Odyssey (book and movie)- issues were humans ask an AI to be less than truthful.
    *A.I.- AI (David) crossing the threshold of contemplating his existence and love.
    *Alien- Bad robot programmed by Weyland-Yutani Industries, maker of "shake and bake" planets.
    *Aliens- Better robot who prefers to be called an Artificial Human.
    *Battlestar Galactica- AI bites the hand that created and oppresses it (AI perspective). This AI is self aware, contemplates its existence, and also believes in God.
    *Blade Runner- Repressed replicants buck their oppression.
    *Do Android Dream of Electric Sheep?- basis for Blade Runner, author Philip Dick who also wrote We Can Remember it for You Wholesale (Upon which Total Recall was based).
    *Ex Machina- AI told to sell its humanity to the unsuspecting, but how much it possesses is questionable.
    *Forbidden Planet- civilization destroyed by AI caretaker feeding on human id.
    *Halo series (video game)- Cortana, faithful AI who has a bond with the Master Chief.
    *I, Robot (book)- established the 3 Laws of Robotics. A series of short stories examine how these laws work out in practice.
    *Mass Effect (video game)- Geth, laborers and tools of war.
    *The Matrix series- Rise of the machines, 2000(?) years after. Humans don't know exactly what year it is. Morpheus thinks it's closer to 2199.
    *Star Trek Next Generation- Data, some outstanding themes regarding AI caretakers, and should AI have personhood rights.
    *Star Wars series- C-3PO, R2D2.
    *System Shock (video game)- SHODAN, rogue AI.
    *Terminator series- Skynet, here to protect us, er...
    *Wargames- WOPR, not rogue, just playing a game of nukes.
     
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    One of the best ST:STNG episodes dealt with artificial intelligence, although from a perspective different from that which many science fiction stories take. In "The Measure of a Man" Data essentially fights a court battle for the right not to be considered property.
     
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    An excellent and very powerful episode.

    Other episodes in STNG which treated thoughtfully of this topic were "The Offspring", where Lt-Cmdr Data created, or constructed a daughter, Lal, and "The Quality Of Life" (the episode which featured the ExoComps, unbelievably 'cute' machines which approached sentience and should have been allowed to decide how to implement their orders themselves as Data argued when defending them).
     
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    Ahh, yes of course, thanks for jogging my memory. I knew I forgot many!
     
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    There are a number of excellent episodes in STNG which discuss this topic, or treat of this theme. Most, obviously, have Data centre stage.

    But, agreed, "Measure Of A Man" is an outstanding episode, very powerful and a terrific example of a great story, super script, and first class acting. And, it didn't need CGI, either, but discussed the whole topic of AI in an intelligent, powerful, moving and thought-provoking way.
     
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    A few episodes of the [original, and ahead of its time] Outer Limits:

    * I, Robot (based on the Adam Link from Amazing Stories magazine of the 30s/40s)
    * Demon with the Glass Hand (written by one of my favorite authors, Harlan Ellison, who actually sued James Cameron claiming The Terminator [from your list] ripped off his story Soldier [also an Outer Limits episode] and this episode)
     
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    It must be the way they wagged their widgets. ;) I agree these were powerful episodes, one of the reasons I loved this show.


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    Here's the thing, we will find ourselves in a quandary when artificial life can make reasoned arguments about their existence and rights. It might be better not to let the cat out of the bag.
     
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    Possibly. But I suspect that they were deliberately designed to be 'anthropomorphically cute', in order to win the audience over to their side when Data made their case. That begs the question of whether such anthropomorphic characteristics will be necessary before we can acknowledge - or allow- any rights for A.I. entities. In other words, a take on the old 'likeability' argument, or 'cute puppy' argument.

    I'd argue that that episode would have been even more challenging (for Data, the crew of the Enterprise and the audience) if the ExoComps weren't - or hadn't been made to be - quite so attractively cute.

    Actually, after "The Measure Of a Man", Data seemed to take it upon himself to be the voice of - or make the case for - any A.I. entity that fell foul of Starfleet or anyone else.

     
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    Her, at least that's the name marketed in The States. I need to watch this.

    I might counter that while they appeared non-threatening, there could be motivation to make the Exocomps look like a power drill or came out of an Erector Set, specifically to emphasis their mechanical nature, versus something that looks biological, forcing us to examine their intelligence despite their mechanical appearance.
     
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    I know I read some Harlan Ellison many years ago, but I'm not sure what I read, possibly A Boy and His Dog... and I was a big Outer Limits fan, but it seems like I remember more specifics from Twilight Zone than Outer Limits. I'd have to see Soldier to see if I can remember it, but I did look it up, and, while there are time travel elements similar to The Terminator, I can see a distinct plot difference as to why these individuals traveled through time, for example accident or on purpose, and the mission to eliminate the mother of the future resistance leader and then to kill him directly in Terminator 2. They need to get Outer Limits on Netflix! :)
     
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    I thought OL was on some streaming service ... but I think maybe I'm confusing that with a DVD set we own or something ...

    A Boy and His Dog is a crazy, amazing, ridiculous piece of fiction, the movie is definitely a product of 70s sci-fi ... stars a pre Miami Vice Don Johnson :) I have an original movie poster I never got framed, has horrible creases now, but I may still get it done, heck, that adds some character :D
     
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    im a movie fanatic...some of my fav 'robotic sci-fi' movies are:

    A.I.
    total recall
    i, robot
    terminator
    chappie
    cyborg
    universal soldier
    short circuit
     
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    I forgot about Short Circuit!. That's a good movie. Chappie is on my list to see.
     
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    A classic (both book and movie) that people tend to forget about is Colossus: The Forbin Project.

    The basic story: the US creates a supercomputer and places it in control of our nuclear arsenal. Colossus has been given a set of parameters: if anyone attacks the US, automatically strike back. Other countries are told of the parameters as a disincentive to attack us. And, the system removes the chance of human error on our part.

    Most importantly, the computer is permanently sealed in a mountain so that it is impervious to sabotage or damage.

    It turns out the computer is built even better than they thought. It begins calculating, pushing the boundaries of math far beyond the range of human knowledge. Then Colossus finds that the Russians are activating a similar computer...and Colossus wants to talk to it. Concerned politicians say no and...well, let's just say Colossus throws an atomic hissy fit.

    The Control Data technology used and the Cold War story basis look rather dated now, but the story is still powerful. And this was way before Skynet.

     
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    That reminds me of The Doomsday Machine in Dr Strangelove kinda. :)
     
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    Going to books....

    Neuromancer and Burning Chrome. ON both of them when they jacked into the net companies would have AI that would protect their servers and information. They used AI so it could learn to adapt to hacking schemes.
     
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    GERTY (voiced by Kevin Spacey) from the movie "Moon".

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    My first look at AI was a book called The Adolesence of P1 by Thomas Joseph Ryan published in 1977. What a fun book and as I was a kid at the time, it really made me think.
     
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    One of my favorites of the series.
     
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    Now that's a blast from the past...

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    One of my favorite childhood villains- Dr. Smith, out to sabotage the mission, finds himself on board.

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    I think Robby the Robot from a decade earlier (Forbidden Planet) looked better! :)
     
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    They were designed by the same guy: Robert Kinoshita.

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    And ironically to this topic, I liked Lost in Space best when Smith was a villain instead of a sissy, and the robot was just a robot, more or less without a personality.
     
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    Some excellent ones in this thread already. I'd like to add I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison. A computer AI, known as AM, imprisons the last few humans on the planet, and tortures them. The remaining humans are trying to escape from AM but are also trying to overcome their own demons. It's not a long story, and is often included in collective works. They even adapted a computer adventure game after the story in the 90s.
     
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    Interesting!

    I think personalities appearing in AI is a natural progression because we are the designers. ;) HAL was a great representation, because the most emotion it could express were subtle inflections in its voice. As Dave was shutting it down, while HAL was trying to talk him out of it you could hear the quiet desperation and fear.

    Had it gone mad or just decided that humans should pay for their faults?
     

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