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Um, I'm assuming sales figures? If the Watch wasn't selling I see no reason for Best Buy to expand it to all their stores. Since they are one would have to assume it's selling well there. Of course we don't know what well means in terms of numbers but it's enough for BB to expand to all their stores within a month.
I wasn't aware that it was on sale at Best Buy already.
 
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I wouldn't take a CEO's statements at face value, unless they are accompanied by some other information, such as an action that the company is taking. For example, a headline like
Best Buy Accelerating Apple Watch Rollout to All 1,050 Stores
might lend a little credibility to the statement. How likely would it be that Best Buy accelerates its rollout if they weren't expecting to satisfy some demand?
I was asking what they are basing this on. I find it interesting the hate Best Buy, as a company gets here, but now that the CEO decides to roll out Apple watch in all stores he is a solid guy that obviously knows what he is doing. Again, I am not doubting the situation as I have no reason to want or not want this thing to sell well, just find the mentality on the forum amusing/bewildering. Have a look at Apple care to be sold at Best Buy news thread if you have no idea what I am talking about. It's insane.

Truhtfully, I also wasn't aware that they have had the product for some time. I thought it was just now launching (at Best Buy) and before the launch they decided to expand this to all stores. Forgive me for asking a question and thank you for trying to make me look stupid. Another thing oh so popular on these forums. Seems a guy can't ask a question around here expecting a nuetrally charged, let alone polite, response.
 
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Right...and I recall that Apple has likely sold less than 4 million watches in some older news articles. Again, it's a nice raw number that Apple sold a few million...sure...but as everyone stated before, Apple will sell a few million of anything they release simply because of the large population(s) and the Apple fans. But as a % of society? 5% is pretty sad. Granted it is year 1. But even still, what % of USA folks own a Mac? 15% on a great day...again, millions of units with nice margins but a minority of traditional desktop and laptop computers. iPhones of course are a much higher %.
I have actually read statistics saying Apple computers have broken to over 50% of new computer sales. I didn't spend the time analyzing the data, but I imaine this was everything that runs a full blown desktop operating system and excluded things like surface rt (which is effectively dead) and other similar tablets. Surface pro and other similar devices should, in theory, still be counted in these numbers.
 
There are 2 places to buy apple products...Apple store and Apple.com
Why go to best buy when the only knowledge they possess is trying to up-sell their 15% accessories per sale (not to mention the geek squad support that I guarantee they will tell you is better than AppleCare).
What do "best buy" and Jon Snow have in common?..... They know nothing!
End of story :)
 
You'll be wearing one in two years tops. You can quote me on that.
People said this about the iPad too. I finally got one and it collects dust most days. I don't doubt people like their Apple watches. Unless it severely improves in terms of health monitoring, sport performance monitoring (I enjoy running and cycling) I don't, as a product for me, see it as anything more than a $350 accessory. I will point out that I have absolutely never been a watch guy. I don't wear traditional watches either.
 
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There are 2 places to buy apple products...Apple store and Apple.com
Why go to best buy when the only knowledge they possess is trying to up-sell their 15% accessories per sale (not to mention the geek squad support that I guarantee they will tell you is better than AppleCare).
What do "best buy" and Jon Snow have in common?..... They know nothing!
End of story :)
Most Best Buys (all?) should have an Apple rep helping with sales. They are actually trained by Apple. So they should have very good knowledge on the product. If that is not the case in your area you can always write Apple. Feedback is the best thing a company can get in order to improve.

That said, you did help add credence to my point about the Best Buy hate on the forums a bit.
 
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I have barely seen this device in the wild, if ever. Frankly, not only do I not have the urge to buy it, but I have now completely forgot about the product.

This thing has been a disaster. It's starting to get digs in influential media now too. That's not to say that any smart watch is a hit. None of them are, because they are currently pointless expensive devices with no clear exceptional function. Those who say otherwise must just be trying to justify their 500 dollar iPhone accessory.
Well what is it have you seen one in the wild or not? You can't have barely seen one if ever. You have or have not.
And as far as you saying you have forgot about it. That's not true your in a forum for the Apple watch
Then as for it being a disaster well I really don't think its a disaster. I am sure from apple's point of view it will be profitable so disaster NO.
As far as everyone trying to justify their purchase who are you to say what people are or aren't doing.
So exactly what are YOU trying to do.
 
Most Best Buys (all?) should have an Apple rep helping with sales. They are actually trained by Apple. So they should have very good knowledge on the product. If that is not the case in your area you can always write Apple. Feedback is the best thing a company can get in order to improve.

That said, you did help prove my point about the Best Buy hate on the forums a bit.

I don't hate best buy, just don't trust them to sell Apple products with the same level of expertise and customer focus as an Apple Store.
My last 2 purchases for major electronics (64" Sammy Plasma and Pioneer Elite receiver) were from Best Buy...
 
I don't hate best buy, just don't trust them to sell Apple products with the same level of expertise and customer focus as an Apple Store.
My last 2 purchases for major electronics (64" Sammy Plasma and Pioneer Elite receiver) were from Best Buy...
Well, your statement wasn't one of love an acceptance, lol. It's allg ood. Buy what you want and from where you want. No skin off my back.
 
I typically don't wear a watch, but when the Apple Watch rumors began, and I saw a few of the rather attractive amateur mock-up photos, I was seriously considering one.

Then, when the actual Apple Watch appeared and I saw what a hideous, ugly, monstrosity, crippled, pointless device it is, any thought of purchasing immediately vanished. It could possibly have been something good, but vision-less Timmy F'd it up. And, if by it's very nature it couldn't be made to be a great device, then it should have never come out at all. Tim forced this pointless device into the product line due to pressure to produce/innovate/create.
 
This is noting more than puffery to boast about its relationship with Apple.

I am not saying sales are bad. They may very well be good. You just can't base it off of this article.
 
I wouldn't take a CEO's statements at face value, unless they are accompanied by some other information, such as an action that the company is taking. For example, a headline like
Best Buy Accelerating Apple Watch Rollout to All 1,050 Stores
might lend a little credibility to the statement. How likely would it be that Best Buy accelerates its rollout if they weren't expecting to satisfy some demand?
It's bestbuy! Anything that can help bring customers to the store, is a bonus for them. It has nothing to do with Apple Watch. Think about it. What else they can roll out? There is no new product in the market that needs roll out. This announcement all keeps best buy in news!
 
Then, when the actual Apple Watch appeared and I saw what a hideous, ugly, monstrosity, crippled, pointless device it is
Before June of this year, I'd never worn a watch before, nor ever considered wearing one. THEN when the actual Apple Watch appeared and I saw how stunningly beautiful, glamorous, elegant, graceful, exquisite, and astonishingly useful it was...and, how sexy those wearing the watches looked (I mean real people wearing them, not supermodels), I decided that I was going to wear a watch.

I've worn my Apple Watch every day since getting it and haven't regretted one cent I spent on it, or one minute of having it on my wrist. I've gotten nothing but compliments on how it appears, and I've had not one issue with the apps. It's been a real trooper, a superstar, doing everything I wanted it to do. Phone calls, texts, Apple pay, reminders...

It's been magical. So...which one of us, I wonder, is wrong in our hyperbolic perception of it? You who haven't one, and are not using it daily...or me? Look, I'm perfectly content with your decision not to want it, and if you don't like how it looks, and if it doesn't do what you want it to do, then it's perfectly fair to say as much; those are very valid reasons for not wanting the watch.

But when you post ridiculous, over-the-top descriptions like this of why you don't want it...you end up sounding like Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. You clearly had this fantasy watch in mind, how you wanted it to look, what you wanted it do. And when the actual watch didn't match that dream watch it infuriated you. And now every time you see a thread on the watch, you end up throwing a temper tantrum because you just can't get over the disappointment "That's not what I wanted! How could you not give me exactly I wanted, Apple!"

Have you considered saving yourself from all this pointless rage by not reading Apple Watch threads?
 
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Explain why Apple would need to expand retail access if the watch were selling well.
Um...it's not obvious? The watch is as much as a fashion accessory as an electronic device. A person who sees a space black phone online can just click and order one. But a person who sees a space black watch may want to try it on first to make sure it looks good on them. Which size? which style? which band? Most people want to see their choices on their wrist before committing. So. More retail, more places for people to try on watches, more watches sold.
 
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There are 2 places to buy apple products...Apple store and Apple.com
Why go to best buy when the only knowledge they possess is trying to up-sell their 15% accessories per sale (not to mention the geek squad support that I guarantee they will tell you is better than AppleCare).
What do "best buy" and Jon Snow have in common?..... They know nothing!
End of story :)

That sums up my view of Best Buy too. For Apple products, the Apple Store is my first and only stop. For everything else, it's Amazon. And if I need instant gratification, I go to Best Buy. This move to sell Apple Watch just benefits Apple. I couldn't care less.
 
What pattern? Don't confuse media reporting pattern with reality.
Apple has repeatedly said that they are happy with the demand and that the product has been selling well. You pay too much attention to speculative analysts and click-bate articles spread all over the web.
I don't think you even read my post....
 
It's bestbuy! Anything that can help bring customers to the store, is a bonus for them. It has nothing to do with Apple Watch. Think about it. What else they can roll out? There is no new product in the market that needs roll out. This announcement all keeps best buy in news!

So based on this logic - BB tells the whole world they have the Apple watch. The whole world runs to BB to see the watch. The whole world hates the Apple watch but buys zillions of dollars in other products. BB wins! Apple loses. And your logic is proven true. :rolleyes:
 
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Before June of this year, I'd never worn a watch before, nor ever considered wearing one. THEN when the actual Apple Watch appeared and I saw how stunningly beautiful, glamorous, elegant, graceful, exquisite, and astonishingly useful it was...and, how sexy those wearing the watches looked (I mean real people wearing them, not supermodels), I decided that I was going to wear a watch.

I've worn my Apple Watch every day since getting it and haven't regretted one cent I spent on it, or one minute of having it on my wrist. I've gotten nothing but compliments on how it appears, and I've had not one issue with the apps. It's been a real trooper, a superstar, doing everything I wanted it to do. Phone calls, texts, Apple pay, reminders...

It's been magical. So...which one of us, I wonder, is wrong in our hyperbolic perception of it? You who haven't one, and are not using it daily...or me? Look, I'm perfectly content with your decision not to want it, and if you don't like how it looks, and if it doesn't do what you want it to do, then it's perfectly fair to say as much; those are very valid reasons for not wanting the watch.

But when you post ridiculous, over-the-top descriptions like this of why you don't want it...you end up sounding like Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. You clearly had this fantasy watch in mind, how you wanted it to look, what you wanted it do. And when the actual watch didn't match that dream watch it infuriated you. And now every time you see a thread on the watch, you end up throwing a temper tantrum because you just can't get over the disappointment "That's not what I wanted! How could you not give me exactly I wanted, Apple!"

Have you considered saving yourself from all this pointless rage by not reading Apple Watch threads?

And there it is. The damage control Apple apologetic right on cue, within a very quick and specific time-frame. If the rest of the Apple employee departments (product/software depts.) worked as hard as you PR/marketing employees, Apple would have no critics. Unfortunately, Tim Cook has decided to invest more in marketing and PR rather than product improvement/development. Seriously, you guys make it so obvious. Tim, is that you personally?

Have you considered saving yourself from all this pointless rage by not reading Apple Watch threads?

I've covered this silencing tactic, so I'll just copy/paste the response:

Basically, they're posting: "Don't say anything negative about it. If people are dumb enough to buy it, let them buy it. You're interfering with our fleecing of naive buyers."
 
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I have barely seen this device in the wild, if ever. Frankly, not only do I not have the urge to buy it, but I have now completely forgot about the product.

This thing has been a disaster. It's starting to get digs in influential media now too. That's not to say that any smart watch is a hit. None of them are, because they are currently pointless expensive devices with no clear exceptional function. Those who say otherwise must just be trying to justify their 500 dollar iPhone accessory.

Forgot about it? You're post says otherwise. You seem to have considerable emotional investment in the Apple Watch being a failure.
 
Forgot about it? You're post says otherwise. You seem to have considerable emotional investment in the Apple Watch being a failure.

Lets just wait and see what happens, right? We can agree to disagree. Let's just put you down in the camp of the Apple Watch ending up along side the success of iPhone, iPad, and the Mac..

And when Apple eventually releases their sales numbers, we will see whose right in that regard.
 
And there it is. The damage control Apple apologetic
And there it is! The silencing tactic. Every time someone praises the watch, the anti-watch ranter comes back with "you're just an apologist" in an attempt to shut them up. Your trick won't work on me! My praise for the watch has as much if not more validity than your rant.

And we watch lovers will not be silenced by those, like you, spreading misinformation. We will get the truth out no matter what names you call us in your vain attempts to dismiss our very positive AW facts :cool:
I've covered this silencing tactic
Is that what I'm trying to do? Gosh. Anger management problems and reading comprehension problems, too. Re-read my post. I said that your reasons for not getting the watch were valid and I had no problem with hearing them. I do think, however, that the WAY you are saying them is damaging your credibility as a critic. If you come across as a toddler throwing a tantrum rather than a person rationally and objectively offering your insights, then you're not going to be taken seriously.

And what,, exactly are you trying to accomplish with these rants? Are you on a mission to destroy this evil watch and we're trying to keep you from that by "silencing" you? :rolleyes: If you want to rant about how awful you find the watch, have at it, but don't you think one such rant is enough to convince us of your dislike? Exactly how many times do you need to say it? And how are you developing a conversation with anyone who doesn't hate the watch as much a you do?
 
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Lets just wait and see what happens, right? We can agree to disagree. Let's just put you down in the camp of the Apple Watch ending up along side the success of iPhone, iPad, and the Mac..

And when Apple eventually releases their sales numbers, we will see whose right in that regard.

You're putting me in the wrong camp. There is a large range of profitable sales levels between total failure and iPhone level sales. But, it is interesting that you seem to think anything less than iPhone like success is total failure.
 
And there it is! The silencing tactic. Every time someone praises the watch, the anti-watch ranter comes back with "you're just an apologist" in an attempt to shut them up. Your trick won't work on me! My praise for the watch has as much if not more validity than your rant.

And we watch lovers will not be silenced by those, like you, spreading misinformation. We will get the truth out no matter what names you call us in your vain attempts to dismiss our very positive AW facts :cool:

Is that what I'm trying to do? Gosh. Anger management problems and reading comprehension problems, too. Re-read my post. I said that your reasons for not getting the watch were valid and I had no problem with hearing them. I do think, however, that the WAY you are saying them is damaging your credibility as a critic. If you come across as a toddler throwing a tantrum rather than a person rationally and objectively offering your insights, then you're not going to be taken seriously.

And what,, exactly are you trying to accomplish with these rants? Are you on a mission to destroy this evil watch and we're trying to keep you from that by "silencing" you? :rolleyes: If you want to rant about how awful you find the watch, have at it, but don't you think one such rant is enough to convince us of your dislike? Exactly how many times do you need to say it? And how are you developing a conversation with anyone who doesn't hate the watch as much a you do?

And there it is! The silencing tactic. Every time someone praises the watch, the anti-watch ranter comes back with "you're just an apologist" in an attempt to shut them up.

No, no exactly. My post that you responded to was not my replying to anyone's praise, it was my take independent of any other comments. You're response to my post, on the other hand, was in fact a damage control Apple defense apologetic. Plus, I think 99% of you are Apple PR/marketing department employees posing as regular Apple customers. The apologetics and unconditional praising I'm criticizing is that it is an Apple affiliated position and financially biased, as opposed to unbiased legit customer praise. It's pretty easy to tell the difference, actually.

And even in this reply, you still don't give up on the PR/marketing/promoting/praising. Throw in countless Apple compliments along the way. Typical marketing speak; use every opportunity to praise.

And what,, exactly are you trying to accomplish with these rants? Are you on a mission to destroy this evil watch and we're trying to keep you from that by "silencing" you?

It's called customer feedback. As opposed to what you're doing, which is blind, unconditional praise (although, if one is paid to do so, suppose there's no choice). If you want shi**y products and you love bean-counting leadership, just continue to sheepishly follow along and don't complain nor question, and that's exactly the type of products and company you'll end up with.

Exactly how many times do you need to say it?

I don't know. How many times do the Apple marketing department employees need to undeservedly praise it?

Also, notice the relentless, 24 hour, never-ending, predictable, damage-control responses? One might even say it smells of an actual paid job duty, so much time and effort put in.

After a quick skim, here are examples of this silencing tactic, I mentioned. As mentioned, it's very common and not something that regular customers/forum posters would say; it's more like something a company PR affiliate would say. It's to silence and sensor bad PR, which is the exact duty of the company PR employee.

"I understand, but the "old Apple" is never coming back. Ever. Those days are long gone, and it seems like the long-time Apple users who are currently unsatisfied with Apple might need to move on."

"Steve's not coming back, so I sure hope you find some other products that make you happy."

"then you might want to move on to "cleaner " companies."

"simply don't buy or recommend it. Farewell and hope you like windows 10"

"Have you considered saving yourself from all this pointless rage by not reading Apple Watch threads?"
 
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