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I wish these cellphone plans had a "pay-per-minute" plan for people that only make 3 or 4 calls a month, no use having a 300 minute a month plan...and a pay-per-megabyte of 3G for people that only load maybe 5 or 10MB of 3G data a month....

Cellphone plans are already out of this world...

On that $79.99/month "unlimited" plan you are basically paying $1920.00 (almost $2000.00 in service fees over a 2-year plan contract. That is just ridiculous!)

If that's all you would use a phone then you don't need a smart phone, period. I agree they're stupid expensive, but if you plan on using only 5-10MB of data, and only make/take 3 or 4 calls a month, why would you EVER spend $200-300 on a phone? Geez..
 
Oh I know that.... so are we to believe that Best Buy had memos like this in previous years? This early? Apple hasn't even announced the thing yet.

I realize it takes time to set up displays in thousands of stores... and to train employees.

But that's why there has always been time after the announcement but before the phones go on sale.



Yep, it's gonna be another big one for sure! I guess it never hurts to keep Best Buy employees on their toes for another huge Apple quarter.

it's an engineered PR leak. Samsung galaxy SGS 2 is hitting every carrier except verizon in a few weeks. the droid bionic is going to be out in a few days. there are already rumors of a few more HTC phones hitting AT&T and T-Mo with LTE support for AT&T and a 4.7" screen. all before the holidays.

apple needed a leak to let people know the iphone is coming and don't buy anything else
 
Not a Sprint customer but nice to see more news of the imminent iPhone update. I just hope production is able to keep up with all this pent up demand. The lines are going to be crazy!

I don't think anyone ever truly knows how popular the new iPhone will be. The preordering mess from both AT&T, and Apple with the iPhone 4 was far worse than waiting in line.
 
When the iPhone came to Verizon, AT&T gave customers unlimited calling to any cell phone with unlimited texting.

Sprint beats both carriers on price, so who knows what each company will do in response?

Everybody wins.
 
When the iPhone came to Verizon, AT&T gave customers unlimited calling to any cell phone with unlimited texting.

Sprint beats both carriers on price, so who knows what each company will do in response?

Everybody wins.

Only if you are single
 
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Warbrain said:
Doubtful.

A large portion of Android's growth is being driven by the race to the bottom, more specifically inexpensive handsets being deployed in Southeast Asia. It has been surmised elsewhere that many of these users aren't really treating the handsets as smartphones, but are pretty much using them as touchscreen feature phones, just making phone calls and texting, with little use in the typical smartphone manner (surfing the Internet, downloading apps, playing games, etc.).

Of course, these users don't really help out Google much (since they're not looking at ads), nor do they influence the Android developers (since they're not downloading apps). They're mostly allowing the handset manufacturers to continue their pattern of selling relatively inexpensive devices with low margins to the bottom end of the cellphone market.

The race to the bottom isn't going to help Android and, as we've seen with other Apple products, people pay for quality. It will not be an immediate shift because of contracts but it will play out. Expect to see it pick up at Verizon in the next year.


Exactly this. BGR even updated their article with this information a few minutes ago.

Although it does say subject to change. I bet it was put in for the first week of September regardless of any information from Apple.

That is part of the difficulty for android handset makers. People are not, for the most part, pay for individual hardware features and upgrades. Thus the most affordable handset offering a similar experience is going to rule the day. This is where apples control and single item selection pays off.

The average iPhone user experience is high and consistent. Android experience is varied and very inconsistent.
 
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zorinlynx said:
Am I the only one who hopes that the iPhone 5 isn't physically larger than the iPhone 4?

I for one think the iPhone 4 form factor is PERFECT. Just the right size, easily grippable, plenty thin.

Tapered edges would make it harder to grip.
Larger screen would make it bulkier in pockets/cases.
Screen right up to the edge would mean your fingers cover parts of the screen when you hold it.

The current design is excellent; I think they should just evolve it rather than making it larger/completely different.

I agree. Count me as one of those who don't want to see a larger screen.
 
When the iPhone came to Verizon, AT&T gave customers unlimited calling to any cell phone with unlimited texting.

Sprint beats both carriers on price, so who knows what each company will do in response?

Everybody wins.

That is not entirely accurate or in context. ATT only recently started the unlimited out-of-network cell to cell calling and only with unlimited texting. At the same time they got rid of the $10 texting plan and previously got rid of the $5 texting plan.

So a new ATT customer who wants a text plan, i.e., not pay per text, must pay $20 a month. Sure they get unlimited cell to cell calling but most people don't use their phone as a phone anymore, and when they do use them for voice its for brief conversations, which is why cellcos are banging customers for data. Plus w/ ATT a lot of people have bunches of roll over minutes. So if you are moderate but not obsessive texter then not really a great deal -- not everyone wins.
 
I wish these cellphone plans had a "pay-per-minute" plan for people that only make 3 or 4 calls a month, no use having a 300 minute a month plan...and a pay-per-megabyte of 3G for people that only load maybe 5 or 10MB of 3G data a month....

Cellphone plans are already out of this world...

On that $79.99/month "unlimited" plan you are basically paying $1920.00 (almost $2000.00 in service fees over a 2-year plan contract. That is just ridiculous!)

It's not paid per minute, but it is prepaid, and cheap:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans

$30/month, 30MB download and 1500 minutes talk time (which you'll never use up).
 
re: U.S. Cellular

I agree! U.S. Cellular is a very good provider in the St. Louis, MO area. I used them for a couple years and was really pleased with everything from the pricing (all incoming calls are free) to the customer service. The only reason they're not really considered a "major player" is their lack of good handsets. They don't seem willing to pay the premiums to get any "exclusives" on popular new phones from Motorola or others.

Since they use CDMA like Sprint, I don't see why the new iPhone wouldn't work on their network -- except once again, they're probably not interested in doing anything special to make features like "visual voicemail" work properly, and probably were content to be ignored by Apple.

My work already standardized on Sprint and my phone is paid for by them right now - so that pretty much determines who I'm using ... but otherwise, I'd be back with U.S. Cellular if they'd get an iPhone 5. No question about it.


 
Press Conf on Wed this week.

The manager at one of my local Apple stores told me today that there will be a Press Conference this week, on Wednesday 9/7/11.

Hey, he could be wrong, but...
 
I agree! U.S. Cellular is a very good provider in the St. Louis, MO area. I used them for a couple years and was really pleased with everything from the pricing (all incoming calls are free) to the customer service. The only reason they're not really considered a "major player" is their lack of good handsets. They don't seem willing to pay the premiums to get any "exclusives" on popular new phones from Motorola or others.

Since they use CDMA like Sprint, I don't see why the new iPhone wouldn't work on their network -- except once again, they're probably not interested in doing anything special to make features like "visual voicemail" work properly, and probably were content to be ignored by Apple.

My work already standardized on Sprint and my phone is paid for by them right now - so that pretty much determines who I'm using ... but otherwise, I'd be back with U.S. Cellular if they'd get an iPhone 5. No question about it.


Is the CDMA for Sprint the same as for U.S Cellular? I think that Verizon maybe different. Hopefully someone will make it "work" for USCC.
 
The manager at one of my local Apple stores told me today that there will be a Press Conference this week, on Wednesday 9/7/11.

Hey, he could be wrong, but...

Do you mean in less than 2 days.....? Highly doubt it.

Although, Apple is last minute..
 
Do you mean in less than 2 days.....? Highly doubt it.

Although, Apple is last minute..

Neither do I, but I never said that what the guy told me was 100% correct, that is what he told me and I'm relaying here.

Some say these guys don't now much, some might say that some might be aware of something we aren't.

They DO get Internal memo's. His Paycheck says "Apple Inc".
 
That is not entirely accurate or in context. ATT only recently started the unlimited out-of-network cell to cell calling and only with unlimited texting. At the same time they got rid of the $10 texting plan and previously got rid of the $5 texting plan.

They've had the unlimited texting w/ unlimited calling to any cell phone for at LEAST 6 months.
 
The manager at one of my local Apple stores told me today that there will be a Press Conference this week, on Wednesday 9/7/11.

Hey, he could be wrong, but...
Highly unlikely.

First of all, retail managers are the second to last people to know about anything new from Apple (the last are the retail line employees, of course).

Second, Apple usually makes announcements on Tuesdays.

Third, Apple has made no attempt to invite the media to this alleged Wednesday event. Typically, Apple gives a one-week lead so media folks can book travel to SF or Cupertino. And if this press event was happening at Yerba Buena, we'd see some photos of the setup by now.

Your "local Apple store manager" should pick lottery numbers and equity investments if he really was prescient. Then again, if he really is prescient, he probably wouldn't be toiling in retail.

You or your contact is spouting B.S. If this retail manager continues blabbing, he probably won't be employed by Apple for much longer.
 
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iPhones now ship "within 2 business days" in online Apple Store in some European countries - yesterday it was 24 hours. This is true at least for UK, DE, NO and FI.
 
Again, all valid points, but guess what, I'm repeating something I was told, don't kill the messenger. Just repeating what I heard, not that I said he was right, did I??

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Highly unlikely.

First of all, retail managers are the second to last people to know about anything new from Apple (the last are the retail line employees, of course).

Second, Apple usually makes announcements on Tuesdays.

Third, Apple has made no attempt to invite the media to this alleged Wednesday event. Typically, Apple gives a one-week lead so media folks can book travel to SF or Cupertino. And if this press event was happening at Yerba Buena, we'd see some photos of the setup by now.

Your "local Apple store manager" should pick lottery numbers and equity investments if he really was prescient. Then again, if he really is prescient, he probably wouldn't be toiling in retail.

You or your contact is spouting B.S. If this retail manager continues blabbing, he probably won't be employed by Apple for much longer.
 
BBY-isms

Hey guys.

I've been an assistant store manager with Best Buy for a few years now and there are some things in this "leak" that don't match up with what typically comes from the Magic Castle (corporate). While typos wouldn't be impossible, the actual format of the document is the most questionable. Unless this is a document circulated within a higher-up level at corp, any documents that have any importance are "watermarked" in two different ways with the employee's user id information (of the user who was logged-in at the time the doc was retrieved/printed) so that these kind of leaks can be traced back to the culprit. In the event that this is a watermark-free doc from higher execs, I find it highly unlikely that they would contribute to something that could jeopardize their career.

Having said this, there are several things that DO sound like "best buy speak" (for example, the use of abbreviation ESE for the exclusive sales event for reward zone members.) It's likely that this either IS a BBY document or was created by someone who has worked for BBY.

Also, I wouldn't read into the 6am time bit... there are so many situations where we have to be there early, or even overnight.

... only my thoughts.
 
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