Best Buy pushing iPad 2

pdawg

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My friend's dad (older gentleman) just purchased the iPad 2 at Best Buy this week. He was coming to get the new iPad, but the sales person nonchalantly told him "the iPad 2 and new iPad are the same thing essentially". :rolleyes:

"There is no reason to spend money on the the new one when the iPad 2 does the same exact things".

My friend's dad has never owned an iPad before. Scary thing: as soon as she told me he had bought the "wrong" iPad, I immediately assumed (correctly) that it had been at Best Buy.

iPad 2 may work for some, but why tout it like it's the same as the new iPad?
 

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The iPad 2 does do the exact same things as the new iPad.

The new iPad just does them faster and more beautifully.
 

richardmu

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but he's probably spent less money and wiil be very happy with his ipad 2.

A very nice sorted tablet without all the problems we read about with the ipad 3 on here!
 

richardmu

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I believe Best Buy have gone bust in the UK. Maybe not the best place to buy your Apple products!
I have only ever bought from Apple and never had any problems.
 

bawbac

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The iPad 2 does do the exact same things as the new iPad.

The new iPad just does them faster and more beautifully.
The new iPad does tasks with more heat but the same speed as an iPad2.:)

If LTE or retina screen isn't needed, then the iPad2 will be sufficient at $100 less.

If he couldnt tell the difference between the 2 screens, then he obviously got the right one that meets his needs.
 

Macgeeza

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I believe Best Buy have gone bust in the UK. Maybe not the best place to buy your Apple products!
I have only ever bought from Apple and never had any problems.
I went to the best buy that was at lakeside a couple of years ago before it went bust. I was looking for a MacBook pro after apple had just released the new model of it. Best buy tried to sell me the old model saying 'but it is the new one'.

Lucky for me I knew what I was looking for (spec etc) so I got out of that place ASAP and got one direct from the apple store.

Just wonder how many people they conned by selling the old MacBook as the new one.

Perhaps that's one of the reasons why they went bust here, because they didnt know what they were selling?
 

Michael CM1

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Sounds like this moron would say there's no difference between a 22" SDTV and a 55" HDTV. I mean they both play TV shows. No difference.
 

Gathomblipoob

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but he's probably spent less money and wiil be very happy with his ipad 2.

A very nice sorted tablet without all the problems we read about with the ipad 3 on here!
We read about almost all the same problems with each new iPad/iPhone release...
 

IllIllIll

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My friend's dad (older gentleman) just purchased the iPad 2 at Best Buy this week. He was coming to get the new iPad, but the sales person nonchalantly told him "the iPad 2 and new iPad are the same thing essentially". :rolleyes:

"There is no reason to spend money on the the new one when the iPad 2 does the same exact things".

My friend's dad has never owned an iPad before. Scary thing: as soon as she told me he had bought the "wrong" iPad, I immediately assumed (correctly) that it had been at Best Buy.

iPad 2 may work for some, but why tout it like it's the same as the new iPad?
Well...because it is? After all, pretty much the only difference is a spec-bumped GPU, retina graphics, and higher res camera. The CPU is the same in both, the screen size is the same, and there's really not much an iPad 3 can do that an iPad 2 can't.

If anything, I applaud that BB employee for not automatically pushing the latest, greatest, and most expensive device on unsuspecting customers just to make an extra buck for the company. Not everyone needs the top of the line model.
 

ZBoater

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Well...because it is? After all, pretty much the only difference is a spec-bumped GPU, retina graphics, and higher res camera. The CPU is the same in both, the screen size is the same, and there's really not much an iPad 3 can do that an iPad 2 can't.

If anything, I applaud that BB employee for not automatically pushing the latest, greatest, and most expensive device on unsuspecting customers just to make an extra buck for the company. Not everyone needs the top of the line model.
I'm sorry, but I ain't buying it. For the Best Buy employee to say the iPad 2 and the new iPad are the same and there is no difference reeks of either ignorance or laziness in not wanting to educate a customer.

I'd return the thing and go buy it somewhere else....
 

IllIllIll

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I'm sorry, but I ain't buying it. For the Best Buy employee to say the iPad 2 and the new iPad are the same and there is no difference reeks of either ignorance or laziness in not wanting to educate a customer.
Well, how far off from the truth is that statement? Functionally the iPad 2 pretty much can do anything the iPad 3 can. The iPad 3 has a beautiful display, but does it have anything that the average consumer can't do without? IMO, no.
 

G-Mo

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I'm sorry, but I ain't buying it. For the Best Buy employee to say the iPad 2 and the new iPad are the same and there is no difference reeks of either ignorance or laziness in not wanting to educate a customer.

I'd return the thing and go buy it somewhere else....
But, the BB employee DIDN'T say they are the same thing; from the OP they said "There is no reason to spend money on the the new one when the iPad 2 does the same exact things." 100% acurate statement, I'd give the same advice to my Dad or a friend's Dad, and have given the same advice to clients.
 

Jspring86

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I have to say, I bought my new iPad from Best Buy and there was no problem. But on the other hand, I am a very educated consumer and do all my research before I go to purchase. I have come to the conclusion that Best Buy is a decent place to buy electronics as long as you don't need advice from any of their employees.
 

ZBoater

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Well, how far off from the truth is that statement? Functionally the iPad 2 pretty much can do anything the iPad 3 can. The iPad 3 has a beautiful display, but does it have anything that the average consumer can't do without? IMO, no.
Aside from the substantially improved camera and LTE? No, I guess not... :rolleyes:

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But, the BB employee DIDN'T say they are the same thing; from the OP they said "There is no reason to spend money on the the new one when the iPad 2 does the same exact things." 100% acurate statement, I'd give the same advice to my Dad or a friend's Dad, and have given the same advice to clients.
Ok....


My friend's dad (older gentleman) just purchased the iPad 2 at Best Buy this week. He was coming to get the new iPad, but the sales person nonchalantly told him "the iPad 2 and new iPad are the same thing essentially".
Are we talking about the same post? :confused:
 

smetvid

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I bought a iPad 3 from Best Buy on the release day. There were a lot of people buying iPads there and none had any problems.

Even Apple is still selling the iPad 2 and I see no problem with Best Buy saying that there are two iPads of equal functionality with only really the display being better. For two years now people talked about how good the display of the iPad 1 and 2 were and now all of a sudden they are supposed to be bad.

There is nothing wrong with the older display. We also don't know the full conversation that took place at Best Buy. It is possible the sales person showed the differences but then said both do the same exact things which is very true.

Apple still sells the iPad 2 for this exact reason. To some people the display isn't that big of a deal and would rather save a few bucks for a device that is going to basically function exactly the same. The cpu speed is the same and the gpu is faster but that extra speed is more or less negated by the higher resolution display. No different then somebody deciding to buy a 13" MBP instead of a 15" MBP.

When Apple themselves stop selling the iPad2 as a new product then you can fault Best Buy for also selling it. They are just doing the same thing and will continue to do so while the iPad 2 is still considered a current product.

By the way while everybody panicked and waited in line to buy a iPad 3 I walked into Best Buy at 2:00pm on release day and purchased a iPad 3 without any hassle. Plenty of them left.

The one thing I like about buying Apple products at Best Buy is I can actually walk into the store instead of trying to cram myself between a horde of teens who just crowd the Apple stores to surf the web for free. I shouldn't have to wait around for 30 minutes to buy a cable just because people feel like flooding the store with useless questions they could have found out in five minutes on the web page. At Best Buy I can literally walk in on release day of a product and walk out again in under 5 minutes.
 

Warhawk15

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While I don't have an iPad, what Apple says here is sort of what the employee told the man...
Chop off an extra $50 for a refurbished, and thats a pretty good deal for an iPad 2.
Of course I would get the new one and not the old one, but to each his own.
 

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Ivan P

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I went to the best buy that was at lakeside a couple of years ago before it went bust. I was looking for a MacBook pro after apple had just released the new model of it. Best buy tried to sell me the old model saying 'but it is the new one'.

Lucky for me I knew what I was looking for (spec etc) so I got out of that place ASAP and got one direct from the apple store.

Just wonder how many people they conned by selling the old MacBook as the new one.

Perhaps that's one of the reasons why they went bust here, because they didnt know what they were selling?
Apple Store staff aren't much better. I've visited about 15 different stores in Australia and the US, and the one in my city in Australia has by far the worst staff I have come across. For example, I had planned to buy a 17" MBP and get a Speck clear shell for it, I even checked the Apple Online Store to make sure it existed. I went into the store and the specialist told me that no cases were available at all for the 17", that no one made them, despite the fact there was a shelf full of them next to him (though not the one I wanted). He said he'd search their inventory and see if they had any, and couldn't even navigate that properly, and eventually gave up and told me "to look on eBay" (ended up getting it in the US, where amazingly they do happen to have 17" cases!). Another time, a couple years ago now, before the iPhone 4 had been announced, my partner went to buy a 3GS from the same store (he knew there would be a new model soon, but isn't fussed about having the latest and greatest). The specialist this time said "I shouldn't sell you one, because there's going to be a new model in a couple months and you'll prefer that one". 100% genuine Apple Store staff in these cases.

Sorry, I know its not exactly on topic, but fitting given the examples.
 

IllIllIll

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Aside from the substantially improved camera and LTE? No, I guess not... :rolleyes:
iPad 2 has a camera and you can get one with 3G Internet. Aside from a few differences in quality of the former and speed with the latter, the iPad 2 still can do what the 3 can: take pictures and video, and connect to the Internet. A lot of people don't really need a "substantially improved camera" on their tablet, and are perfectly happy with 3G data speeds - or no cellular data at all. Your sarcasm is wasted here.
 

dsc888

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Have BB price match MicroCenter for $359

If you are lucky enough to have a MicroCenter close to your bestBuy, you can have them price match at $359 for the iPad2 Wifi 16GB. It's on their main page and it's even a sweeter deal considering that it's fresh and unopened. Pass it on to a relative or sell it when you outgrow it and then get the new iPad when they finally work out the kinks in the Retina displays.
 

ZBoater

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iPad 2 has a camera and you can get one with 3G Internet. Aside from a few differences in quality of the former and speed with the latter, the iPad 2 still can do what the 3 can: take pictures and video, and connect to the Internet. A lot of people don't really need a "substantially improved camera" on their tablet, and are perfectly happy with 3G data speeds - or no cellular data at all. Your sarcasm is wasted here.
This has nothing to do with whether you need the feature or not. This has to do with whether a Best Buy employee can say that the iPad 2 and the new iPad are essentially the same.

No matter how you slice it, they are not.

And good sarcasm is never wasted... :p
 

IllIllIll

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This has nothing to do with whether you need the feature or not. This has to do with whether a Best Buy employee can say that the iPad 2 and the new iPad are essentially the same.

No matter how you slice it, they are not.
But functionally, they are. Obviously there are physical and spec differences or there would be no differentiation between the 2 and the 3.

Bottom line is, the iPad 2 is a perfectly good tablet and nowhere close to being obsolete. If it was, Apple would have discontinued it. And no matter how much you want to rationalize it, the fact remains that there is essentially nothing an iPad 3 does that an iPad 2 cannot. As such it is a perfectly adequate tablet for a subset of the population that doesn't need the latest and greatest and doesn't want to spend a lot of money.