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best car for a 16 year old guy
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civic 97-99 ex, bought mine for 1000, and the gas mileage is amazing and handles like a dream, power everything as well, upgraded the sound system and is a very enjoyable car, forget american cars, they're junk.
Buncha young guns here !! HA!
When I was 16 I bought a 1957 Buick LeSabre..
Crusin' On Down The Road..
When I was 16 I bought a 1957 Buick LeSabre..
Crusin' On Down The Road..
Buncha young guns here !! HA!
When I was 16 I bought a 1957 Buick LeSabre..
Crusin' On Down The Road..
OMG!!
I had to wait 'till I was working for a living to acquire my first, a 1954 Pontiac 27 Series, with a straight eight engine.
Ah, the good times of zero speed but massive torque.
What a tank she was.
i just had a great idea about the right car for the OP
why should he follow our ideas of a ideal car , all might had great ideas like i had about the car that would be ideal for him in my opinion, but it was my opinion and your opinions
but as with other posts like "which Mac should i buy" we will never all agree about the ideal Mac too
so i guess the best advice for the OP is
look in your pockets how much money you got to buy it , to insure it , tax it and run it every month (fuel,spare parts , servicing) and then choose the car that fits your pocketmoney ,and give a **** about what others think about your car , you bought it from your own money and you can afford it to run
That should make you proud enough to even drive around in something like that ,
its yours and you can afford it
as there is absolute no point of buying a car you cant afford to run , no matter how great it looks in the driveway
why should he follow our ideas of a ideal car , all might had great ideas like i had about the car that would be ideal for him in my opinion, but it was my opinion and your opinions
but as with other posts like "which Mac should i buy" we will never all agree about the ideal Mac too
so i guess the best advice for the OP is
look in your pockets how much money you got to buy it , to insure it , tax it and run it every month (fuel,spare parts , servicing) and then choose the car that fits your pocketmoney ,and give a **** about what others think about your car , you bought it from your own money and you can afford it to run
That should make you proud enough to even drive around in something like that
,its yours and you can afford it
as there is absolute no point of buying a car you cant afford to run , no matter how great it looks in the driveway
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It is a universal problem faced by those born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
The point he is trying to make, is that you cannot appreciate the sacrifice required by some, to acquire what you come-by via birth.
Greener grass, and all that ****.
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No, I'm saying you're shallow because you say things like
Though the way your parents raised you probably has a lot to do with your shallowness.
While you're right for the most part, you should only speak for the teenagers you know. I handled mine just fine. V8, manual transmission, fast.
I could have sworn I addressed comments like that in my long post on the previous page (post #164).
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You don't need my permission, and I don't care what you drive - your parents gave it to you, enjoy it. But you aren't going to change anyone's opinions either with that attitude, and I'd advise you not to try. If you're the exception to the rule that still means most of the rest of the kids your age will never have the money, skill or sheer dumb luck to handle such a car without consequences (either as small as high upkeep costs or a large as death or serious injury). I know of a young kid who died less than 48 hours ago in a fast car. He thought he handled his just fine too. Turns out he was wrong.
I'm saying such blanket statements are inappropriate. And what attitude? Not only had I already edited my statement to make it sound less blunt, there was really nothing that wrong with it to begin with.
Enjoy my car? I did, for eight years with no accidents and no tickets.
They would be if we all knew each others' life histories. But we are a bunch of random people on the internet making unsubstantiated statements for our own amusement. There's no need to become so self-rightously indignant over a little ribbing about being given expensive cars for free.
No, they're just inappropriate. I would have agreed with you if you said "most teenagers are ill-equipped to handle a fast car", but instead you said:
I just explained my driving record with a fast car (although far from luxury) when I was a teenager. Eight years with zero accidents and zero tickets. Can you say the same? Maybe you can, but your generalization was inaccurate and you clearly haven't retracted it. Oh well, maybe it was just all luck I didn't wrap myself around a pole while I was driving 100mph through residential neighborhoods...
Or maybe, just maybe, there are teenagers who can accurately assess risk and drive responsibly, even if those are few and far between.
EDIT: Glad you inserted a sentence backing off from your blanket assertion in an edit.
This is pretty petty, though. I'm betting 90% of posters on this forum were given stuff growing up that would make them considered "spoiled" by those less fortunate in the world. It's all relative and if you're going to try to gauge someone's personality based off such skin-deep measures, I'd take a long look at who the superficial one is.
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I agree man, I drive a Subaru SVX which is fast and luxury. All the kids at my school who have camry's and Civics always do crazy crap with them. Not to say i haven't done some stuff too, but I would never risk my car driving 30-40 over a grass bank when the parking lots crowded with kids and bottom out my car terribly. I raced go karts from age 7-14 and drove a bit. One thing I hate is when people consider others spoiled and brats if their parents get them a nice car. To be honest, I am getting a new car soon and I am only going to tell a couple people that it's mine. I am going to tell everyone else it's my dads because I don't want the negative attention that goes along with teens in brand new cars.
I think the facts bear me out on that.
Frankly it is just luck. Driving is the most dangerous thing most people do on a dalily basis - even if one is a careful driver. Being young, male and in a fast car increases the risk enormously, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. Your reaction to this is typical and frankly understandable, but that doesn't change the facts.
I never denied it - I only suggested that teenagers' self-identification as such is usually off-base. I'm sure most feel just as sure as you did that they are good drivers, even if they aren't.
Only if you perceive it as such. I can assure you it's nothing personal on my part.
This brings up a good point. Teenagers (and all drivers, really) can get in trouble in whatever they're driving. I drove very responsibly and never got driven by other friends unless I was comfortable with their driving, but I had friends in old Toyota Avalon's and Honda Civic's thinking they were invincible. 120 on freeways, going 30 in parking lots, etc...
I guess my main issue with this whole thread is the hostility directed at people whose parents were willing to trust their kids with a car and able to buy it. I don't really understand this kind of thinking. Sure, some kids may definitely be spoiled by thinking they're entitled to these things, but what about those who truly appreciate these kinds of gifts and use them responsibly? You're really going to start making assumptions of the personality of the kids and the competency and lovingness of the parents based off something so superficial?
They don't. The statistics, when applied to a large group, show that teenagers are bad drivers. When you then take a statistic like that and apply it to every teenager, it becomes less meaningful.
Sure, I'll acknowledge there is an element of luck in my driving record, but that doesn't automatically validate your argument that all teenagers are unable to appreciate the risks. I will not buy the argument, however, that my driving record is only luck and I drive just as dangerously as some of my friends who drive irresponsibly, get tickets all of the time, and have been in accidents.
You're taking statistics with a large sample size and applying it to individual people, again.
I do agree with you that driving is the most dangerous thing people do.
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Especially members here, who are, arguably, more 'stable' than the general population.
I do agree with this statement. A brain not fully developed, coupled with testosterone can lead to bad decisions and choices which can have greater affects in a stronger car. Some teens are more mature in a car then others, I am not trying to stereotype all of us, just speaking from personal experience.
As this thread has been misdirected.....
While it is great you guys seem fairly level headed, I will say I have come across many kids in my life who did not want to (or parents did not want to) associate with kids based off some superficial things....like clothes, cars, toys, whatever. Perhaps that is the cause that drives this attitude to some degree?
So while you can say how all this mild "hostility" can not be understood by you, I can easily point out to real life situation where I have experienced how often kids born into a family that is relatively well off seem to get this sense of entitlement that it is expected for them, right or wrong. It is just human nature. Once people get used to living a certain way of life, they expect it.
In regards to appreciating things...I will argue that being given something of value can not be nearly as appreciated as working towards it and obtaining it on your own. Namely since you did not have to work for it. I don't know about those who are well off but still to this day, my brothers and I equate buying things like a subway to amt of hrs worked to be able to even buy it. crazy perhaps?
Now with all that said, I don't care about other's people's business. If people give children nice things, I think that is the privilege the parent has earned by working for it. I know if I can, I would love to treat my kids to things I didn't have. As long as people are polite and nice to each other and not judgemental, they are golden in my book. However, I will say when people argue over getting a z4 over a gtr or something so superficial, it rubs me the wrong way and really makes me not respect them as a person.
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I know many like that as well. I just don't like my personality (or my parents' competency at parenting) to be gauged based off of what car I drive. I don't for a second think less of people who drive different conditions/values of cars, both more and less valuable.
Yeah, he's lost a bit of perspective.
It might do some good for my cause here that I was always expected to work when not in school growing up. I do the exact same thing that you do although I equate everything I buy with how many Chipotle burritos I could have bought with the money.
Agreed.