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Best site for replacing MBP battery? (UK)
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To substantiate this claim, I am going to use logic expressions and statements.
1st statement: I have got a genuine Apple battery from eBay seller.
Proof:
1. The external design of the battery is the same, compared to the broken battery,
that was inside the Macbook Pro that is currently possessed by me, before replacement.
2. The capacity and performance are the same as they were when the Macbook Pro,
that is currently possessed by me, and the battery inside it, were new.
Source: I. Intensive testing. II. Coconut Battery statistics.
3. The seller has a very high feedback rating, so the chance that he is fooling his customers is extremely low.
Source: I. Feedback rating data was taken from eBay.
II. By "very high", we mean "relatively high, compared to other eBay sellers".
III. If he was fooling his customers, his feedback rating wouldn't be "very high".
4. From 1. , 2. and 3., we can conclude the 1st statement.
2nd statement: The battery was produced by Apple battery factory in China.
Proof:
1. 1st statement states that the battery purchased by me is genuine.
That means, it was produced by Apple-authorized battery factory.
2. The Apple battery factory is situated in China.
Source: Both broken and new battery labels say "Designed in California. Made in China."
3. From 1. and 2., we can conclude the 2nd statement.
Final statement: The factory in China manufactures more batteries than Apple orders, to sell the extra batteries later as the replacement parts.
Proof:
1. 2nd statement states that this battery was produced by Apple battery factory in China.
That means, Apple orders the batteries from this factory.
2. It is not profitable for seller to buy the battery from Apple for $130 and then resell it for $60.
That means, the battery was not bought from Apple.
3. It is not profitable for seller to buy the Macbook Pro for $1800, remove the battery, and sell it for $60.
That means, the battery was not got from Apple laptop.
4. From 2. and 3., we can conclude that the battery, that I have got from eBay, is not included to the number of batteries that Apple orders. That means, the factory in China manufactures more batteries than Apple orders.
5. It is not profitable to manufacture more batteries than Apple orders, unless they are not going to be resold later.
6. Most customers will buy the batteries to use them as replacement parts.
That means, the batteries will be sold as replacement parts.
7. From 1., 4. and 6., we can conclude the Final statement.
Enough?
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As I thought, all conjecture. None of that is proof of anything. It's common knowledge that knockoff products frequently make their packaging look cosmetically like the products they mimic. You're not buying a legit Apple battery from any source for half the price, regardless of how much you'd like to believe that. As my earlier post states, there is no assurance that the battery uses all the same technology that genuine Apple batteries employ. If anyone wants to buy knockoff batteries, that's certainly their prerogative, but it's misleading to suggest they're the genuine article.
Please, point me to the place where I am wrong.
I am not relying only on the external design. Quoting myself:
AppleMacFinder said:
I am not buying a legit Apple battery for half the price;
it is Apple, who adds the labor cost for replacement and Apple tax, makes it cost twice the real price.
Unfortunately, it is prohibited by Apple to disassemble the batteries,
otherwise I would have taken them to a friend who works in laboratory, so he could compare the technologies.
The only thing we can do is to rely on the external measurable characteristics: capacity and performance,
which were found to be the same as the broken battery have had, when it was new.
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Nothing you've said is proof that the battery manufacturer is selling the same batteries to anyone other than Apple. You're simply assuming that, based on unscientific observation and guesswork. Apple batteries are not for sale on eBay, unless they're used. They're only available from Apple or Apple-authorized stores.
Your conclusion that "Apple batteries are not for sale on eBay, unless they're used. They're only available from Apple or Apple-authorized stores" based only on your opinion. While my conclusion is based on facts.
No, your conclusion is not based on facts, but guesses and assumptions. Name one Apple-authorized retailer on eBay.
You don't need to be Apple-authorized retailer on eBay to sell Apple batteries.
Like you don't need to be Apple-authorized retailer on eBay to sell Apple computers.
You keep believing that. You're very much mistaken if you think you're getting an official Apple battery for half price on eBay. It's simply not true, and you haven't provided one bit of proof otherwise.
I have conducted a proof, but you just don't even read it.
Again, it is not half the price, it is the full real price.
It's just Apple who sells the batteries twice as much for no reason.
Oh, wait... Apple wants to earn more money... now that makes sense for me!
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My reason to buy and install a real Apple battery from Apple store, if it was possible, is to avoid the even slightest possibility that an alleged Genius will scratch my pristine 3 year old MBP. Or perhaps wrap something that shows up later and I can't prove it's them that caused it.
In other words, if anyone is going to wrap my MBP, I want it to be me. If my Mac's do anything odd, its down to me. We've all been there, "it was working great until I had some work done on my Mac"....
Also, to get the Apple store to replace the battery, they make a big deal of it because it has to be booked in and left with them. That for me is two visits into Manchester's Trafford Centre which is not a pleasant experience when just simply selling me the battery at the full cost would be fine.
In other words, if anyone is going to wrap my MBP, I want it to be me. If my Mac's do anything odd, its down to me. We've all been there, "it was working great until I had some work done on my Mac"....
Also, to get the Apple store to replace the battery, they make a big deal of it because it has to be booked in and left with them. That for me is two visits into Manchester's Trafford Centre which is not a pleasant experience when just simply selling me the battery at the full cost would be fine.