Best SSD "solid state" HD for macpro?

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  1. umbilical macrumors 6502a

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    hi, I have a macpro '08 I want buy a ssd for reemplace my normal 250gb hd...

    any brand? recomendations?

    it worth the money use a solid state? more fast? silence etc..? :confused:
     
  2. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    I'm using three 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSDs in RAID 0 and it's fantastic :)
     
  3. umbilical thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    gpzjock macrumors 6502a

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    OWC ftw

    Your 2008 Mac Pro has a 3 gb/s data transfer rate due to the speed limits of its motherboard. Newer fancier boards have 6 gb/s transfer rates and the new range of SSDs use the higher speed boards to return faster read/write rates.
    If you put a newer design SSD in your '08 you will not get the higher speeds they quote.

    I use this type: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/internal_storage/Mercury_Extreme_SSD_Sandforce
    They are purpose built for your Mac Pro and not a bad price either. $500 for 240 gb. Raid versions are available too if you want to use multiple bays.

    The real benefit of the OWC is the data speed over time, this article shows that compared with Crucial and Intel the OWC returns flawless dataspeeds over time: http://macperformanceguide.com/SSD-RealWorld-Seasoning.html
    The Intel and Crucial SSDs are great out the box, after some use the lack of Trim functions means they degrade to the point of stupidity.
     
  6. Pressure macrumors 68040

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    The Intel SSD supports TRIM.

    However, it doesn't work on all SSDs in Mac OS X.

    If you want proven reliability the Intel Solid State Disks is the way to go, however, it is your data so do with it what you want.

    Also, one could easily install a S-ATA 6Gbit PCI-Express card in the Mac Pro and go wild with the OCZ Vertex 3 and similar offerings, if you really need to transfer that one large file at 500 MB/s.

    Otherwise, just look at the 4 KB random read / write data, as those are the real meaningful numbers.
     
  7. xgman macrumors 601

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    Vertex 3. Being released this week. (and there is a trim patch now available for testing)
     
  8. umbilical thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    thanks! I think with 120gb or even 80gb im ok for master hd... just system and apps
     
  9. Bob Kiwi macrumors member

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    Is there a known good 6Gbit internal SATA PCI card that supports a boot drive and sleep? Was wondering about tossing one into a Mac Pro 2,1 (even with it's PCI-Express 1.0).

    Otherwise, there is still some benefit to getting a 6gbit SSD even with a 3Gbit limitation, probably from new efficiencies?
     
  10. umbilical thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    maybe I was think in hold for see the new mac pro that comes and sell this one... I really dont see much difference between my macpro 08 and the actual one, but I want see the new one, exist a possible date for new mac pro? :apple:
     
  11. xgman macrumors 601

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    vertex 3 120 is in stock at newegg. at least for the moment. a bit pricey.
     
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    I would also endorse Intel. I've been using 3x Intel G1 drives in RAID0 for 2 years now without any issues. Although they are no longer the performance leaders, the performance is more than adequate, especially on a system constrained by SATA2. They seem to have better reliability. I personally wouldn't buy OCZ based on their reported failure rates and that stunt they pulled recently where they silently tried to switch the V2's to 25nm, and in doing so reduced performance.
     
  13. ListedFirst.com macrumors newbie

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    I personally just got the Areca 1880 card, EFI Bootable, and some insane performance. I'm selling off my Vertex 2 drives on ebay right now, waiting for the Vertex 3 drives. If you're going to use the internal Sata II, I've go with either the Vertex 2 drives, or the new Intel 320 drives.
     

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  14. ListedFirst.com macrumors newbie

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    I've never had an Intel drive fail, I have had 2 Vertex 2 drives fail. Until the 320, Intel couldn't compete with the speed of the Sandforce, but the 320 has closed that gap. The vertex 3, however, is my next purchase (selling off my Vertex 2 on Ebay as we speak)
     
  15. Riot Nrrrd macrumors regular

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    I've got a Westmere 6-core MacPro5,1 so I have 6 GB/sec SATA II ports. Does that change the decision process any?

    I've had the Mac Pro for a few weeks now and haven't turned it on because I want to re-do the whole setup with an SSD boot/apps drive in the 2nd optical bay.

    I've been doing research reading the threads on here and on the Apple Discussions site and AnandTech, etc. as well as reading product pages on vendor sites and at this point, I'm more confused about the 'right' way to go than ever. :confused:

    It seems like some people say "Go Intel for reliability", others say "Go OWC for Mac compatibility", others say "Go OCZ for speed", others say "Go Micron/Crucial for speed", etc. As a waffling Libra :D I can't make up my mind what the best one to buy is!
     
  16. DeeEss macrumors 6502a

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    Oh I feel your pain. I'm a Virgo, but one day later and I'd be a Libra so I'm on the cusp and am a hopeless mix of both! I have the painful need to weigh everything up ala Libra and the over critical analytical perfectionist virgo head too! I'm a hot mess I tell ya. :)

    I did loads of research and in the end went for OWC Mercury Pro RE's for speed and reliability.
     
  17. philipma1957 macrumors 603

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    Your machine does not do 6GB/sec Sata II any single ssd in the four slot trays or the 1 empty optical bay will be at 3GB/sec sata II speed. If you can get away with a 160gb ssd go buy a new intel like this



    https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.ph...2-Solid-State-Drive-for-Laptop-and-Desktop-PC


    these are selling so fast that amazon now has a 2 month waiting time for them
     
  18. jamesryanbell macrumors 68020

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    Good grief, I bet that is ABSURDLY fast.
     
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    Yikes ... US $360 (with MAD15 discount code, good today only) for 160 GB? That's quite a price premium to pay for an extra 32 GB ... :eek:

    Google Shopping is showing several places with that same drive for a lot less money (like US $305 on up).

    (I stand corrected ... isn't it 6 Gbps for SATA III, not SATA II? Anyway, I guess it's academic since my optical bay is 3 Gbps.)
     

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