Best way to set up iPhone X?

Wxchaser

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  1. Restore from a backup (iCloud or iTunes for encrypted backup)?
  2. Use new Automatic Setup (copies Wi-Fi and Apple ID)?
  3. Set up iPhone X from scratch
Things I am concerned about are restoring from a backup with Touch ID - how does that translate to FaceID?'
Also wondering about initial activation and setup with my carrier Verizon. Recently activations have been troublesome for me even though using previous SIM card. Am I going to have to update IOS version right away, not sure what version it is shipping with (11.0.1, 11.0.2, 11.0.3).

Thanks for any tips or advice.
 

Ollifi

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I've usually restored from iCloud. Not sure with which version it'll be shipped with but I wouldn't update to iOS 11.1 until I have X. Touch ID / Face ID data isn't included in the backups, just locally in the device, so there won't be any conflict with those.
 

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I've usually restored from iCloud. Not sure with which version it'll be shipped with but I wouldn't update to iOS 11.1 until I have X. Touch ID / Face ID data isn't included in the backups, just locally in the device, so there won't be any conflict with those.
Thanks for the great info. I have backups both in iCloud and iTunes. I learned to disable automatic syncing for iTunes so when updating a new phone, that is one less thing to worry about.
 

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Back up to the cloud and via iTunes encrypted. I prefer to use the iTunes encrypted back up as it only takes a few minutes and even the passwords are populated. Just in case if your iTunes backup does not work, the cloud will be fine but takes a while depending on your internet connection speed.
 
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Things I am concerned about are restoring from a backup with Touch ID - how does that translate to FaceID?'
Before you even get to the prompt to load a prior backup, you'll be prompted for Face ID setup.

This is because your fingerprints are not part of your encrypted backup -- when setting up a new Touch ID device, you're prompted for a fingerprint before you even get to choose to load a backup, and you have to re-create your fingerprints even though you loaded a prior backup. The same should be for Face ID -- set it up and then choose which backup, if any, to install.

Am I going to have to update IOS version right away, not sure what version it is shipping with (11.0.1, 11.0.2, 11.0.3).
I highly suspect your X will come pre-loaded with 11.1, but that does not mean your current device needs to be on 11.1 when you make its last backup.
 

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I prefer iTunes encrypted because it restores app passwords and is typically faster on launch day, as so many people will be hitting the iCloud servers for restorations.
 
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Before you even get to the prompt to load a prior backup, you'll be prompted for Face ID setup.

This is because your fingerprints are not part of your encrypted backup -- when setting up a new Touch ID device, you're prompted for a fingerprint before you even get to choose to load a backup, and you have to re-create your fingerprints even though you loaded a prior backup. The same should be for Face ID -- set it up and then choose which backup, if any, to install.

I highly suspect your X will come pre-loaded with 11.1, but that does not mean your current device needs to be on 11.1 when you make its last backup.
11.1 still in beta. You'll have to upgrade on launch day, assuming it's out by then. These phones been boxed up and waiting for shipment.
 

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Back up to the cloud and via iTunes encrypted. I prefer to use the iTunes encrypted back up as it only takes a few minutes and even the passwords are populated. Just in case if your iTunes backup does not work, the cloud will be fine but takes a while depending on your internet connection speed.
So you will use the back up on iTunes on you Mac rather then the cloud?
 

Wxchaser

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Use new Automatic Setup (copies Wi-Fi and Apple ID)?
Does anybody have feedback about this question I asked?

I was planning on restoring from iTunes backup as my 1st option, or doing a clean install as my 2nd option. I understand how Automatic Setup works through proximity and it is a big time saver.
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I too will use iTunes even though I have an iCloud backup as well. Wired will always be faster than wireless.
If you have an extensive iTunes library, the iCloud backup is really the way to go IMO.
 

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I'm starting this time with a nice clean system. Got too much junk on my existing phone and since I only access music in the cloud it's just a few apps I need. As and when I need them.
 

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Does anybody have feedback about this question I asked?

I was planning on restoring from iTunes backup as my 1st option, or doing a clean install as my 2nd option. I understand how Automatic Setup works through proximity and it is a big time saver.
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If you have an extensive iTunes library, the iCloud backup is really the way to go IMO.
How so?
 

gelie

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I'm starting this time with a nice clean system. Got too much junk on my existing phone and since I only access music in the cloud it's just a few apps I need. As and when I need them.
Don't you think remembering all the user id's/passwords will be a huge hassle ?
 

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Are their advantages or disadvantages of using the Automatic Setup method?
Very little advantage, if you're going to load a prior backup. After Automatic Setup completes, you still have to set up Siri, Wallet, and load your backup (iCloud or iTunes).

But if you're going to set up as a new device (no backup), then Automatic Setup helps since it sets up the basics (your ID, Wi-Fi, settings preferences, and iCloud Keychain passwords).
 

Wxchaser

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Very little advantage, if you're going to load a prior backup. After Automatic Setup completes, you still have to set up Siri, Wallet, and load your backup (iCloud or iTunes).

But if you're going to set up as a new device (no backup), then Automatic Setup helps since it sets up the basics (your ID, Wi-Fi, settings preferences, and iCloud Keychain passwords).
Thanks that fills me in on what I was wondering about.
 

Danbrown521

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im Going to be using a back up from my iPhone 7+. I’ve have upgraded it to 11.2 beta 1 tho. Some people were saying that it’s a pain to start a new phone from a beta back up. Anyone know why?
 
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