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Beta Testing:Why So Many Bugs?
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Speaking of speed, how long does it take you to colour the first word pink every time?
Also... you are here. This thread is not
If you think about it this way, the software developers at Apple are limited to the amount of staff they have for bug testing. If they release a beta they can immensely expand the amount of bug testers by having outside developers test it.
Say 10,000 people worldwide downloaded the beta. This means that for every hour there is 10,000 hours of bug testing occurring (assuming everyone is using the beta at the same time). Therefore, releasing a beta is a very efficient way to clear up bugs in the system without requiring a huge amount of staff.
Say 10,000 people worldwide downloaded the beta. This means that for every hour there is 10,000 hours of bug testing occurring (assuming everyone is using the beta at the same time). Therefore, releasing a beta is a very efficient way to clear up bugs in the system without requiring a huge amount of staff.
think of it this way of thos 10,000 people 5,000 dont know a bug from a "user error" thus creating 5,000 false alarms back to apple where they would still have to confim its a bug or a retard user
Do the "challenged" users have legitimate betas? I'd bet no. Are they reporting bugs to apple? Again, I'd bet no. They don't seem to understand what a BETA is, so I doubt they are actually participating in the process.
Considering they have paid $99 dollars to get a developers account I'd assume more than 50% of the users know a thing or two about developing software.
Secondly, the user errors that are received by apple can easily be filtered, as many of them would be regarding the same issue. Software companies have been releasing beta's for their upcoming, products for many years proving that it is definitely an efficient way to test bugs.
yeah i think i miss read your post, i thought you were implying apple make it free and even easier to put the beta on the device just to get more feedback form users
A huge number (I'd guess more than 75%) of the people using the beta have not paid $99 of a developer account, rather paid $5 or so to have a developer add their UDID to a developer account and have downloaded illegal copies of the firmware off filesharing sites. These users don't have access to the bug reporting tools and are in no way aiding the beta process.
Let's be careful of how we throw around mockery when it comes to the mentally ill, 'kay?
Also, anyone with iOS 5 on their device, whether or not it was procured legitmately or not, indeed has a legitimate copy of the OS. That's not up for debate.
They're definitely not reporting bugs to Apple, as they do not have access to the bug reporting area of the Dev Center, as real Developers do.
Lastly, I heavily agree that those who have no real need for using the beta shouldn't be using it at all. But, and there's always a but, I think the vast discussion between us on these forums is extremely helpful. You can't do everything in a walled garden. Sometimes you've got to poke your head over the fence and communicate.
Exactly. Folks are buying betas off ebay. Idiots who've paid the $99 are selling access to betas. These kids aren't devs.
If you'll notice, I was careful. Point your pink criticism else where, thanks.
ps: mentally ill doesn't mean cognitively impaired... wrong term there pink.
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I don't disagree that there are more illegitimate beta users than there are legitimate, though these are not the types of people to report bugs to apple, nor do they have access to. All they want to do is try out the new iOS and revert to 4.3.3 if they aren't happy with it. They are neither hindering nor helping the beta process.
That being said, I have no idea how many developer accounts are registered to apple but I can assume it is quite a large number worldwide, and even though there are many illegitimate users, the 25% of legitimate users is still a massive number, benefitting the beta process.
I didn't read the "challenged" in that way, rather users who have been challenged to reveal the source of the beta on their device. I could be wrong though.
Actually, I chose that word very carefully, since folks were using the word "retard", which is not a word I tend to use much. These kids whining about the bugs in dev products are "developmentally challenged". They do not have the ability to understand product development.
Agreed. Having a family member that is mentally retarded, I am offended of the frequent use of the term here. Please stop.
To clarify: mentally ill and cognitively, or developmentally impaired (formerly called mentally retarded) are not the same.
I wasn't sure if you were. Pink was, however. Which is odd, considering the rude and insulting content of many of his posts.
And then I decided to clarify, since he used the phrase "mentally ill" when clearly no one had mentioned folks with mental illness.
my appolgise if i offened you, i would never use that term towards someone with a mental illness
Not trying to be mean but that's the reason it's in the beta stages... So it developers can test their applications and tell Apple about the bugs. I'm pretty sure when the official iOS 5 release comes there won't be as many bugs.
I really do think this is the least buggy beta I have ever seen for iOS. The worst one I think to date was iOS3 which was like mashing my head on a concrete slab.
That said, if there were no bugs, there would be no beta. With the huge number of changes on iOS5, I would have to say that the number of bugs is definitely not proportional. It's actually useable on a daily basis which is what surprises me.
That said, if there were no bugs, there would be no beta. With the huge number of changes on iOS5, I would have to say that the number of bugs is definitely not proportional. It's actually useable on a daily basis which is what surprises me.
The people who aren't reporting bugs to Apple and are using the beta illegally are the people who created hundreds of threads here crying about how a beta isn't working properly.