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son....I'm assuming you've seen the new iPhone? the antenna is outside the phone, there is no minor mod tweak to change that...all the hooplah about coating it and insulating it just are more band aids....and Apple won't do a recall, so again what about the iPhones that have already been sold? I seriously doubt Apple will be able to launch in new countries if they have to replace 3-4 million iphones in North America...even though my iPhone 4 works fine I can assure you that if Apple pops out a new version before next summer me and everyone I know will be at an Apple store DEMANDING a new "fixed" iPhone. Wouldn't you?

forgive me if my response seems terse


Yes... son...I have seen the new iPhone, I even owned one for 3 weeks before I returned it because of the antenna problem. I said "IF" a minor mod was available, if there isn’t one there isn’t one. And no I do not think Apple will recall the device, it goes against their nature.

I don’t have any experience in the cell phone industry, but I do have experience in the Avionic/Electronics industry and in no way am I saying they are the same, but manufactures routinely make "mod" level changes to an LRU without rolling a part number. They do this to address a whole host of reasons that either fix or improve a design. They do this by making simple mods like adding a heat sink, tape, a spacer, etc. As long as they do not change the form, fit, or function they do not have to roll the part number. Again, I do not claim to know anything about the cell phone industry, but IF and I say IF there is a minor mod they can do to fix/improve the antenna problem then I find it incomprehensible that they will not roll in a mod at some point. If Apple is so dense as to have (again if and only if) a minor mod that address the issue and they don’t incorporate the change then as a stock holder I need to sell my stock.
 
Funny how iP4 owners are "perfectly happy" (LOL) with their iPhone 4 but as soon as they are confronted with the mere possibility of Apple eliminiating the "non-issue" (LOL) in the future they go berserk.
 
Funny how iP4 owners are "perfectly happy" (LOL) with their iPhone 4 but as soon as they are confronted with the mere possibility of Apple eliminiating the "non-issue" (LOL) in the future they go berserk.


No. People are responding to you and your repeated spam of the message board implying that there's going to be a change when it's obvious there isn't. You do a good job of baiting people. But the routine is getting old and tired.
 
No. People are responding to you and your repeated spam of the message board implying that there's going to be a change when it's obvious there isn't. You do a good job of baiting people. But the routine is getting old and tired.

Agreed. So. Boring.

*sigh*
 
No. People are responding to you and your repeated spam of the message board implying that there's going to be a change when it's obvious there isn't. You do a good job of baiting people. But the routine is getting old and tired.

Oh, here we have the logical guy again who even thinks his "flawless" phone becomes a warranty(!) issue if the manufacturer decides to improve future devices.

LOL
 
I say if you wait till the end of september then it is possible to see a flawless antenna I am going to do the same :D
 
I'm not. You wouln't answer to everything I post if I was unpleasant.

Or boring.

Trust me when I tell you I can't possibly answer to everything you post. I don't have that kind of time.

Plus, all of your threads get wastelanded anyway. :)
 
Get it now

Get the phone now. You'll like it.

Oh, here we have the logical guy again who even thinks his "flawless" phone becomes a warranty(!) issue if the manufacturer decides to improve future devices.

LOL

You are wrong. Now millions of iPhone 4 owners clearly understand that the phone does indeed have a flaw. And it's a matter of personal choice: whether the flaw is bad enough to severely interfere with the ability to use the phone or not. If it is, the iPhone is exchanged, returned or whatever the decision is. If it is not, the owner just keeps the device. Does it mean that he/she is not entitled to an exchange if there is a permanent modification to fix that flaw? IMO, it doesn't.
 
You are wrong. Now millions of iPhone 4 owners clearly understand that the phone does indeed have a flaw. And it's a matter of personal choice: whether the flaw is bad enough to severely interfere with the ability to use the phone or not. If it is, the iPhone is exchanged, returned or whatever the decision is. If it is not, the owner just keeps the device. Does it mean that he/she is not entitled to an exchange if there is a permanent modification to fix that flaw? IMO, it doesn't.

I couldn't agree more with you.

It's our self-proclaimed logical guy "samcraig" who begs to differ.
 
There's no reason to wait.

The iPhone 4 is not going to have any public or secret design change.

The only thing under consideration by Apple is whether or not to continue the bumper program after the 30th.

They might. They might include a bumper in the case. Or they might just not offer a bumper at all.

And before people say "Hey - they can't stop giving away free bumpers - there's still an 'issue'" - I explained this on another thread.

In short - Apple responded to the outcry of people who bought the iPhone before knowing there was any issue. They insist there IS NO issue. But in good faith, they are providing bumpers.

However - now that the media has made the issue very much aware - anyone buying it now will already be aware of the issue and that "all phones...."

So Apple could easily just stop the bumper program and state that you can buy the iPhone or not buy the iPhone.

The people who are getting bumpers now are still people who bought before they could have known.

My .02
Garbage. Apple made a phone that does not work as a phone. Of the 5 people I know with an iPhone 4, three of them have the signal issue quite severely. They all live in the same village, so it's not got anything to do with location. The antenna and build in general is FLAWED. Apple know this, and are giving people bumpers because they have to.

I've never owned a phone that drops a signal if you hold it in your hand, and neither have any of those I know with an iPhone 4.
 
Garbage. Apple made a phone that does not work as a phone. Of the 5 people I know with an iPhone 4, three of them have the signal issue quite severely. They all live in the same village, so it's not got anything to do with location. The antenna and build in general is FLAWED. Apple know this, and are giving people bumpers because they have to.

I've never owned a phone that drops a signal if you hold it in your hand, and neither have any of those I know with an iPhone 4.

Umm - I don't disagree with you. I think the phone is flawed. I was indicating what Apple's stance was and would/could realistically be come Sept 30th. People seem to think there's a redesign coming. Not gonna happen.
 
Umm - I don't disagree with you. I think the phone is flawed. I was indicating what Apple's stance was and would/could realistically be come Sept 30th. People seem to think there's a redesign coming. Not gonna happen.

I agree, no redesign coming. they are just going to continue to give away the bumpers until next year.
 
I agree, no redesign coming. they are just going to continue to give away the bumpers until next year.

i thought it said somewhere on Apple's site that they will only be giving away free bumpers/cases to people who purchase an iphone up until september 30th or something? but anyway, i doubt they will change a single thing until the next iphone...

that being said:
GET IT NOW! OR ELSE...

EDIT: Oh.... i just now read the post you quoted - which already mentioned september 30th. :facepalm:
 
DEFINITELY Wait 3 more weeks IF YOU CAN.

OK, lets settle this right here. Show solid proof in black and white anything that points to apple doing a redesign of this phone before june of next year. You are so sure they are going to do it. Any half way intelligent person would not go around screaming this without having some basis other than "I just think they will"

So, either you are comepletely dissalusional or you have something to base this on. If you have some info to provide roots to your wobblely tree, please share it.
 
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