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Beware: Get a copy of High Sierra before installing Mojave!

TokMok3

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I hate Apple tactics to force users to its will, I tried Mojave since Monday and yesterday I noticed that it can't wake up from sleep. I did a clean install. Yesterday I decided to reinstall High Sierra but I can't find a way to download High Sierra.

Lesson learned... have a copy of the previous OS before installing the latest and greatest.
 
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If you boot in safe mode (command +R) and choose to reinstall your OS from Apple via network the only option will be the OS that was first installed on that machine. In your case that may be High Sierra?... For me it was Sierra. But eventually I got the machine upgraded. Was a **** show tho.
 
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TokMok3

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If you boot in safe mode (command +R) and choose to reinstall your OS from Apple via network the only option will be the OS that was first installed on that machine. In your case that may be High Sierra?... For me it was Sierra. But eventually I got the machine upgraded. Was a sh*t show tho.

I have a MacBook Pro 2015 (mid). I thought in that as well, but my MacBook came with El Capitan.
 
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drlunanerd

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I have been trying that link since yesterday, it does not work... The Mac store shows a message box: Cannot Connect to App Store

I've just tried it and it's working for me. Downloads High Sierra OK.
Maybe you have DNS problems?
 
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TokMok3

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All the previous operating systems are gone without my consent from my purchased list in the Mac Apple Store.
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I've just tried it and it's working for me. Downloads High Sierra OK.
Maybe you have DNS problems?


Do you have Mojave Installed in your MacBook?
 
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drlunanerd

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All the previous operating systems are gone without my consent from my purchased list in the Mac Apple Store.
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Do you have Mojave Installed in your MacBook?

Yes, testing this on Mojave.
 
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TokMok3

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I've just tried it and it's working for me. Downloads High Sierra OK.
Maybe you have DNS problems?

I just reset router, and check DNS data... Can't download High Sierra from Mac Store. That's the way of Apple doing business. Same pattern, they did the same last year with High Sierra, it was impossible at that time to download Sierra. Fool of me, I did not had a copy in case the new OS is full of bugs.
 
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drlunanerd

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I just reset router, and check DNS data... Can't download High Sierra from Mac Store. That's the way of Apple doing business. Same pattern, they did the same last year with High Sierra, it was impossible at that time to download Sierra. Fool of me, I did not had a copy in case the new OS is full of bugs.

Try signing out of the Mac App Store perhaps. Create a new account etc.

Try changing your DNS server to Google (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4).

It's not impossible to download High Sierra, you need to troubleshoot more.
Annoying though I agree.
 
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TokMok3

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Try signing out of the Mac App Store perhaps. Create a new account etc.

Try changing your DNS server to Google (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4).

It's not impossible to download High Sierra, you need to troubleshoot more.
Annoying though I agree.

I just did all that... Useless, until many more complain about it, then they will allow us to download High Sierra. It happened last year, and it's happening this year. Mean while I'm stuck with a Beta Software. Thanks for your assistance.
 
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drlunanerd

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I just did all that... Useless, until many more complain about it, then they will allow us to download High Sierra. It happened last year, and it's happening this year. Mean while I'm stuck with a Beta Software. Thanks for your assistance.

No worries.
Contact Apple Support, perhaps they can help you out.
 
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DeltaMac

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Mojave App Store does not provide access to older macOS install downloads, even those that you may have downloaded numerous times in the past.
It's not a DNS problem. It's Apple blocking that for some reason.

Easy work around for me is to boot to my backup drive, which has either Yosemite or Sierra as alternatives.
Either of those systems will let me download older installers, if I want to do that.
Mojave, not at all (other than a python script that provides access to High Sierra). The normal links that take you through iTunes, and into the App Store don't work at all for me.
 
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drlunanerd

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Mojave App Store does not provide access to older macOS install downloads, even those that you may have downloaded numerous times in the past.
It's not a DNS problem. It's Apple blocking that for some reason.

Easy work around for me is to boot to my backup drive, which has either Yosemite or Sierra as alternatives.
Either of those systems will let me download older installers, if I want to do that.
Mojave, not at all (other than a python script that provides access to High Sierra). The normal links that take you through iTunes, and into the App Store don't work at all for me.

Working for me on Mojave. Also works back on High Sierra.

https://support.apple.com/macos/high-sierra

EDIT: I successfully downloaded High Sierra from within Mojave Mac App Store.
Then rebooted and tested under High Sierra Mac App Store, which worked too.
Now tested again on Mojave and this time get the same "Cannot Connect to App Store" error.

Apple have dropped the ball.
 
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DeltaMac

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Working for me on Mojave. Also works back on High Sierra.

https://support.apple.com/macos/high-sierra

EDIT: I successfully downloaded High Sierra from within Mojave Mac App Store.
Then rebooted and tested under High Sierra Mac App Store, which worked too.
Now tested again on Mojave and this time get the same "Cannot Connect to App Store" error.

Apple have dropped the ball.

Yes - High Sierra is easy, with several different methods.
And, I can boot back to an older system (because I have backups), but links don't work for older system downloads.
Show me a working link for Sierra (or El Capitan, for that matter) that works while booted to Mojave.
(And I now see your edit... :cool: )
 
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drlunanerd

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Yes - High Sierra is easy, with several different methods.
And, I can boot back to an older system (because I have backups), but links don't work for older system downloads.
Show me a working link for Sierra (or El Capitan, for that matter) that works while booted to Mojave.
(And I now see your edit... :cool: )

The crazy thing is this was working in Mojave for me just earlier today. High Sierra downloaded using the Software Update preference pane too, which I thought was cute.
 
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TokMok3

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Mojave App Store does not provide access to older macOS install downloads, even those that you may have downloaded numerous times in the past.
It's not a DNS problem. It's Apple blocking that for some reason.

Easy work around for me is to boot to my backup drive, which has either Yosemite or Sierra as alternatives.
Either of those systems will let me download older installers, if I want to do that.
Mojave, not at all (other than a python script that provides access to High Sierra). The normal links that take you through iTunes, and into the App Store don't work at all for me.

Thank you, I thought that I was going crazy... I have an old Sierra backup, I'm going to installed to download High Sierra. Unbelievable the things that we have to do, and the time that we have to spent.
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why does apple do this crap


They want to force you into using the software. They must be testing something.
 
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drlunanerd

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It's just started working again for me in Mojave!

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fisherking

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my fave thing about mojave is how it gives all those on this forum who railed against high sierra, the chance to now warn us to revert to high sierra o_O; there are people who hate each new OS, & think it was better 'before'.... then the cycle will repeat next year ("revert to mojave!").

mojave is fast & stable on both my macs, and am (mostly) happy. but watching the whining and 'the sky is falling' threads here is, at least, entertaining...
 
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drlunanerd

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my fave thing about mojave is how it gives all those on this forum who railed against high sierra, the chance to now warn us to revert to high sierra o_O; there are people who hate each new OS, & think it was better 'before'.... then the cycle will repeat next year ("revert to mojave!").

mojave is fast & stable on both my macs, and am (mostly) happy. but watching the whining and 'the sky is falling' threads here is, at least, entertaining...

I hear you. But to be fair there are genuine serious bugs in Mojave that some people are discovering. Some have no choice but to roll back to continue working.

And then for sure you have the whiners :D
 
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