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This was well documented before the launch.
Sorry, dude, but that is about the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. I have scoured iPhone related websites and Apple's website for *months* anticipating the release of the iPhone and if there *is* something stating this.....it is very obscure.

I'm pissed......

Add me to the list of 'peeps who can't activate their iPhone. I don't really know what kind of an account I have. I created it years ago and the last thing I think about is what type of account I have. I *do* know that I pay a substantial amount of $ each month for my account and I would think that this would have been thought out in advance.

Frankly, this is ********.
 
from the att website FAQ's
Are you 'freakin kidding me? I'm suppose to take time out of my busy day to read at&t's FAQ sheet. Tell me you must be joking. This should be front-and-center on Apple's website. No excuses.
 
I understand your point as well, but honestly IMO, if i was dropping $500-600 bones on an item I'd be scouring every resource available to be CERTAIN right up until the time I walked out the door to purchase this thing.. this was indeed available to me and the consequences that would be revolving around it if it was'nt.....as for the people stating "at&t should have prepared for this" at&t is MAXED out for this thing, they pulled ALL avail resources to give customers the best support possible for this..I work in Data Services for at&t, and lets just say the level of ''readyness'' for this goes beyond what anybody with bad experinces even knows, I'm not just saying that as an employee either, I've worked for the company for over 4 years now and never seen anything like this.
 
Are you 'freakin kidding me? I'm suppose to take time out of my busy day to read at&t's FAQ sheet. Tell me you must be joking. This should be front-and-center on Apple's website. No excuses.

so take your complaint to apple, as far as i can see your were provided with the info by at&t and NOT by apple...and seeing how all the support on the apple site leads you to the at&t site, yes, u were responsible for reading the info.
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/
all right there for you......on apples site as u stated it was not.

QUESTION:
Business customers: Problems activating your iPhone?
ANSWER:

iPhone is only available to qualified Individual Responsibility Users (IRUs). An IRU is an employee who subscribes to service individually (with a 2-year service agreement and eligible plan) and assumes financial responsibility for his/her wireless account, but whose account is “attached” to his/her employer’s Foundation Account Number (FAN) in order to receive certain benefits (such as specialized business customer service). NOTE: iPhone and associated wireless service are not eligible for corporate service or equipment discounts. IRUs who activate an iPhone will lose any corporate discounts they have been receiving. If an IRU switches from an iPhone to another device, such IRU will have to cancel service to his or her iPhone and activate a new line of service with a new wireless number in order to receive any service discounts for which he or she then qualifies.


As noted in the Pre-Purchase Understanding, iPhone is not available to Individual Responsibility Users participating in Split Liability Billing (SLB subscriber) or Corporate Responsibility Users (CRUs) due to the unique CRU and SLB processes, billing arrangements and specialized offers that are not currently supported for iPhone.

If you are a CRU, or other corporate liable user or an SLB subscriber and are attempting to activate an iPhone, the information below outlines your current options, including the iPhone Return Policy.

CRUs

You are considered a CRU or other corporate liable user if your wireless service is intended primarily for business use and your company is the financially responsible party, whether or not you pay the wireless invoice.

Option 1:

Sign up for a new consumer line of service with a new phone number to use with your iPhone. Your existing CRU or other corporate liable user line of service and wireless phone number remain unchanged under the CRU or other corporate liable user account and you can continue to use them with your NON-iPhone device.

1) Follow the instructions provided with the iPhone for activating the device as a new AT&T subscriber and establish a new consumer line of service with a new phone number. Keep in mind this new line of service will be under a new personal account in your name, and you will be subject to a personal credit check.

2) After the iPhone is active, attach your new phone number to your employer’s IRU FAN at www.att.com/wirelessdiscounts or by visiting an AT&T retail store. By attaching your phone number to your employer’s FAN, you’ll be able to access specialized business customer service with respect to your new phone number. However, because the new line of service and phone number are used with an iPhone, you will not receive any corporate discounts with respect to the new line of service/phone number.

Option 2:

Transfer your existing line of service from corporate responsibility to individual responsibility status so that you can use your existing phone number with your iPhone.

1) To initiate the service transfer process, check with your company’s wireless account manager to determine if you have permission to make this change to the CRU account. If you do not have permission, your company’s authorized representative will need to call 1-800-999-5445 Monday through Friday 8:00 a.m. - 8:30 p.m. EST to authorize your service to be transferred from corporate liability to your personal liability. Once your company’s authorized representative approves the transfer, he or she will provide you with the company’s IRU FAN, and the AT&T customer service representative will place a note on your CRU account validating that company authorization was provided. Important: You will not be able to proceed with the service transfer until approval has been provided by an authorized representative of your company.

2) Following your company’s approval of the service transfer, please call 1-888-444-4410 Monday through Friday 8:00 a.m. – 8:00 p.m. EST with your company’s IRU FAN on hand to request that your line of service and phone number be transferred to a new account in your name. At this time you will be subject to a personal credit check and will be required to agree to a wireless service agreement with an eligible plan. At the end of the transfer process, you will no longer be a CRU and your company will not be financially responsible for your account – you will be an IRU with personal responsibility for your own account and bill payment. You will be able to use your existing phone number with your iPhone.

3) Follow the instructions provided with the iPhone and activate the device as an existing AT&T subscriber. NOTE: As an IRU with an iPhone, you will not receive any corporate discounts available through your employer’s business agreement with AT&T.

SLB Subscribers

An SLB subscriber is an IRU whose employer is financially responsible for part, but not all, of the IRU’s wireless service. Specifically, the employer is financially responsible for data charges, but the IRU is financially responsible for voice charges.

Option 1:

Sign up for a new consumer line of service with a new phone number. Your existing SLB-enrolled line of service and wireless phone number remain unchanged under your IRU account and you can continue to associate them with a NON-iPhone device.

1) Follow the instructions provided with the iPhone for activating the device as a new AT&T subscriber and establish a new consumer line of service with a new phone number. Keep in mind this new line of service will be separate from your IRU account in your name, however, after successful activation of your iPhone, you can call Business Customer Services to have your individual accounts consolidated into one account. Keep in mind you will be subject to a personal credit check for the new line of service. Also, because the new line of service and phone number are used with an iPhone, you will not receive any corporate discounts with respect to the new line of service/phone number.

Option 2:

De-enroll your existing line of service and phone number from the Split Liability Billing program so that you can use them with your iPhone.

1) To initiate a de-enrollment from Split Liability Billing, you will need to call 1-800-214-0825 Monday through Friday 8:00 a.m. – 8:00 p.m. EST and request to be de-enrolled from the program and to personally assume full financial responsibility for your account. You will be required to change your current data plan to a plan that is compatible with iPhone. At the end of the de-enrollment process, you will still have your existing service and phone number and you will still have an IRU account that is attached to your employer’s IRU FAN, but you will now be personally responsible for paying *all* amounts incurred under your account, including all voice and data service charges.

2) Follow the instructions provided with the iPhone to activate the device as an existing AT&T subscriber. NOTE: As an IRU with an iPhone, you will not receive any corporate discounts available through your employer’s business agreement with AT&T

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/documents/Pre_Purchase_Understanding.pdf<--PRE PURCHASE UNDERSTANDING
 
I havent gotten my iPhone yet but I am sure I will have this problem as well. They should have built the conversion of the account into the process. I understood before the phone came out that you were not going to be able to get a discount on the phone or purchase it from your corporate AT&T page, but they never indicated that if you had a discount on your account that it would be invalid. Looks like I will have to call and get my account converted as well once I get my hands on a phone. UGH!
 
as far as i can see your were provided with the info by at&t and NOT by apple
Lame.....very very lame. Do you even understand how lame that statement is? LMAO Do you understand how many people have business accounts with Cingular/at&t? LMAO I defy you to show me a single page that is not a link within a link within a link that states what you have said.
 
all right there for you......on apples site as u stated it was not.
My bad.....I should have gone to the 'freakin support page before I bought my phone. LMAO Drop it dude.....Apple and at&t dropped the ball on this one. Admit it and move on.....
 
listen... with all due respect to everyone here... the ones that are saying things like "hey man! you should have read the FAQ on the fine print" are not the ones with business accounts! Let me ask you this question... would you say, "hey I have blond hair and blue eyes so I better see if the iPhone will work when I put to to my face???" ...like I said... there ARE MANY MANY people in my scenario who have "business accounts" that cannot active their phone; and had NO IDEA that that is a potential problem... who gives a flying *** what kind of account is tagged to your name... seriously ridiculous for not having it work for business accounts and secondly NOT HAVING IT FRONT AND CENTER ON AT&T's WEBSITE STATING THAT IT WILL NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love Apple... I really do... but they will get hundreds of thousands of returns if this isn't worked out ASAP!

I personally know 20 people... and this is who I know... that are in my boat!

...oh and by the way, Apple needs to know that the AT&T reps are placing this blame solely on APPLE by stating that they control 100% of the activation... I totally disagree!... this is a carrier problem not a hardware problem... I highly doubt that my iPhone cares whether I have a business or personal account! get real and stop the lies!... Apple needs to really know what these reps are saying! seriously!...and yeah, after being on hold for two hours by the way....
 
listen... with all due respect to everyone here... the ones that are saying things like "hey man! you should have read the FAQ on the fine print" are not the ones with business accounts! Let me ask you this question... would you say, "hey I have blond hair and blue eyes so I better see if the iPhone will work when I put to to my face???" ...like I said... there ARE MANY MANY people in my scenario who have "business accounts" that cannot active their phone; and had NO IDEA that that is a potential problem... who gives a flying *** what kind of account is tagged to your name... seriously ridiculous for not having it work for business accounts and secondly NOT HAVING IT FRONT AND CENTER ON AT&T's WEBSITE STATING THAT IS WILL NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love Apple... I really do... but they will get hundreds of thousands of returns if this isn't worked out ASAP!

I personally know 20 people... and this is who I know... that are in my boat!
.....couldn't have said it better myself.
 
well if this isn't the best way to spend a friday night...waiting to get in contact with someone from the business department to lift a simple little title from my account. ugh.
 
My bad.....I should have gone to the 'freakin support page before I bought my phone. LMAO Drop it dude.....Apple and at&t dropped the ball on this one. Admit it and move on.....


Geezus, did u want them to email you the terms and conditions of sale, it's all right there, yes, it is a link in a link but like I previously stated YOUR dropping $500-$600 dollars on this thing, dont u think you should inform yourselves on ALL aspects of it, or did u just pull the typical **** of just signing your name to whatever the hell u want without even reading....my comments may be lame, but their only lame to the ppl who didnt educate themselves before dropping the $500-$600 on something they didnt care to inform themselves over.

2 steps is all it would have taken
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Just to clarify.....

I am a big Apple supporter.....always have been and always will. That said, they really screwed up on this one. i fully understand that Apple is providing the hardware and at&t is providing the service plans and network but this has been a collaborative effort. It's not like Apple didn't know about the activation process, service plans etc. As has been stated before, it should have been stated in *bold* letters on both the Apple and at&t website that if you have a business account you should consult at&t prior to attempting to activate an iPhone.

Capesh?
 
Geezus, did u want them to email you the terms and conditions of sale, it's all right there, yes, it is a link in a link but like I previously stated YOUR dropping $500-$600 dollars on this thing, dont u think you should inform yourselves on ALL aspects of it, or did u just pull the typical **** of just signing your name to whatever the hell u want without even reading....my comments may be lame, but their only lame to the ppl who didnt educate themselves before dropping the $500-$600 on something they didnt care to inform themselves over.

...dude... seriously... get real...
 
Geezus, did u want them to email you the terms and conditions of sale, it's all right there, yes, it is a link in a link but like I previously stated YOUR dropping $500-$600 dollars on this thing, dont u think you should inform yourselves on ALL aspects of it, or did u just pull the typical **** of just signing your name to whatever the hell u want without even reading....my comments may be lame, but their only lame to the ppl who didnt educate themselves before dropping the $500-$600 on something they didnt care to inform themselves over.


you're*
 
I feel like I"m wasting my breath, PIMP......
it is a link in a link
....and you're comfortable with this?
YOUR dropping $500-$600 dollars on this thing
At the expense of shocking you, I could give a fat rat's ass about the $500-$600 fee for the phone. This was not a hardship and it's *not* what I'm complaining about.
without even reading
I read so much stuff about the iPhone it's crazy! As a matter of fact, among other things I read this.....
Can I transfer my mobile phone number to my new iPhone?
Yes, you can transfer most current mobile numbers to a new iPhone.
It says that I can transfer my mobile phone number to my new phone. Nowhere does it say that I can only do this if I have a residential account. :rolleyes:
 
Whatever..it's done..deal with it.

....by the way... i do love your "tag line"... couldn't be more true LOL

and PIMP... the $600 is not the problem (I'd be just as pissed off right now if the phone was $50!...that's not the issue!)... okay, I'll stop my rant... I'm just really pissed and have every right to be now owning an iBrick!
 
I'm going to bed but before I do so understand this......

There are * tens of thousands* of at&t business customers who bought iPhones and they (we) are legitimately pissed off because they can't activate their phones. A word of advice to you PIMP; the more you talk the more stupid you're making yourself sound so you might want to mozy on over to another thread.
 
Indeed, but before I go to bed...understand this..you got an iBrick for now, all because you didnt take the time to read...Peace out People, it's been a blast sitting here waiting with you guys, following along with all the ''rumors'' and ''speculation'' but now that the time has passed, my time is done, I know I wont be missed, and Im leaving with everyone thinking I'm an ass, but I have to say, you all have a great community here keep up the great work...claiming you all as idiots was NOT my intention here..if the feeling was conveyed I do apologize for that, just trying to simply state the info WAS there and it's not as blind as everyone is making it appear to be.
 
Indeed, but before I go to bed...understand this..you got an iBrick for now, all because you didnt take the time to read.

PIMP... the reason why skinnylegs is getting pissed at you (and probably many many others) (if you can't figure it out by now)... is because your comments are implying that "hey anyone who has a business acount and bought an iPhone is a big idiot!"... and bro, that is not the case! serously!... I guess you are also implying that the other 100,000 people out there that thought the same thing by being mis-informed are idiots too!... okay, fine... you get your gold star... happy now?
 
oh and one more thing... the editor of Macworld has an iBrick too!
(yes, he did read the fine print before buying and tried to switched his phone to a personal account... didn't happen!)

THE EDITOR OF FRICKEN MACWORLD HAS AN IBRICK TOO! COME ON!

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2007/06/iphone_act/index.php

I'm sorry but this cant go unnoted...HE KNEW he had to change it... just that the at&t system didnt register it ...FTA

"Earlier this week I transferred my Macworld business account to an individual account solely for the purpose of getting an iPhone—I had to since business plans don’t qualify for the iPhone. I know for a fact that I’m not the only person who had to do this—and judging from the wait time I’m having on tech support, I’m not the only one having problems."

also FTA

"I decided to call AT&T back again. The person I got said that my account was still listed as a business account—well, that can’t be, I changed it."


so as u can clearly see from the article he was AWARE of the conditions beforehand and made the change to his account to make it an ''individual'' account just that some dumb rep at at&t either didnt complete his requested change, or the billing system has not began to reflect it as of yet...thats a totally different case then what people are having...most ppl are stating they didnt know they had to change it...see the difference here?
 
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