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Still:
- It's only 72 phones, not 72 million phones. For every single phone, a court order is required
- We have no problem with house warrants and forced entry if the owner does not comply (I guess there are probably thousands of house warrants being executed every day), why is a "phone warrant" suddenly an issue?
- Apple can easily disable the tool for public use. As I said before, we can't even choose our own iOS version of our liking (and these are firmware files that are publicly available and have been installed before on millions of iPhones)
- This method won't even work on the 5s and up because the delay between passcodes is enforced by hardware
- A six-character alphanumeric passcode even further mitigates the risk for end users
It's not just a phone warrant.
They are demanding Apple develop software so they can execute said warrant.
That is different. They seek to compel Apple to develop a method that allows them to execute the warrant.


I understand what a precedent is, but why should that bother me? House warrants have been publicly accepted for decades, a far more private place which the government can easily obtain access to if necessary. I see no national outcry over that. Why is a phone warrant suddenly so much more severe?

This is exactly the issue at hand, how severe actually are the consequences? That's far from obvious, yet you're posing like it is. I think the consequences are not very severe at all, for a number of reasons. That's the whole point.

It should bother you.
The act of forcing a company to develop software that the government can use to execute the warrant is not constitutional.
How severe are the consequences? Far reaching. Forcing Apple to develop a method means they can force any company to develop what they chose in the name of stopping "terror".
It means that foreign governments will attempt the force the same thing.
Apple exists in many countries.
So if China asked for the same thing, they should comply?
 
It's possible that he doesn't understand all the details; I've seen a lot of misleading headlines and I'm sure there are a lot of misinformed people as a result.

Yes this is completely true. When I made my comment it was before he made another statement clarifying that news organisations had misconstrued what he said in that interview.
 
Then you should look to live in another country if you have that little confidence in your own gouvernement.

A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them. -- PJ O'Rourke

Want to see what the FBI wants?

  1. iOS can be set to erase its keys after 10 incorrect passcode guesses. The FBI wants software with this feature disabled.
  2. iOS imposes increasingly long delays after consecutive incorrect passcode guesses to slow down guessing (this is commonly called rate limiting). The FBI wants software that accepts an arbitrary number of guesses with no delays.
  3. iOS requires individual passcodes be typed in by hand. The FBI wants a means to electronically enter passcodes, allowing it to automatically try every possible code quickly.

The FBI wants to make the iPhone literally so breakable, any script kiddie could do it. They demand a can opener that can blow the doors off ANY iPhone. It's common knowledge that the 'government' has come up with a device that will download a Windows notebook in minutes. It happens at border crossings far too often. Now the 'government' wants a 'slurper' to suck everything off your iPhone. Will it become a major tool for the Barney Fife's of the nation? You comfortable with that?

You still sure that the government has your best interests in mind?

And you can't think of another comeback than 'leave the country'? Well, if it helps anything, I'd be upset about the government slurping your iPhone too...
 



Shortly after Apple was ordered to help the FBI recover data from the San Bernardino shooter's iPhone, Apple quickly said they would oppose the order, garnering the support of other major tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft. In a new interview with the Financial Times, former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates has instead backed the FBI, denying that they are asking for a back door.

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While Apple CEO Tim Cook has consistently argued that unlocking one device would set a dangerous precedent, Gates doesn't believe that it would. He argues that Apple has access to the information, but that they are declining to provide access to the information. Gates compares it to when a bank or telephone company is requested to give up records for a particular person.

Gates went on to say that there were benefits to governments having some access to information, but that there would have to be rules in place to limit how they can access that information. He says that he hopes people will "have that debate so that safeguards are built and so people do not opt out -- and this will be in country by country -- [to say] it is better that the government does not have access to any information."


FBI Director James Comey said in an editorial yesterday that the request was "not trying to set a precedent" and that it was instead about "the victims and justice." However, the FBI also confirmed that it had worked with San Bernardino county officials to reset the iCloud password of San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook. Apple said that, had the FBI not attempted to reset the password, the company would have been able to access the needed information as the iCloud backups would have still been accessible.

The FBI then requested a version of iOS that would remove passcode features like time limits and data erasure measures and other tools to access the iPhone. Apple has maintained that creating such a tool would open a can of worms, setting a dangerous precedent and allowing both bad guys and good guys to take advantage.

Update: In an interview with Bloomberg, Gates said he "was disappointed" with headlines stating he sides with the FBI.Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone for FBI [Updated]

Love the kiss curl. I wonder who's hair it is.
 
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